AOC - General Information

[Rezz]

Every class can swing a melee weapon, not every class can cast spells. Melee shit's gotta take priority. Them's the breaks I'm afraid.

[DeBo]

Originally Posted by Rezz

Every class can swing a melee weapon, not every class can cast spells. Melee shit's gotta take priority. Them's the breaks I'm afraid.

Since when do casters actually use their weapons as anything but a focus item? Unless your a true hybrid class, your weapon is pretty much for show.

[melicant]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

I don't recall seeing the word "fun" in this thread much (or at all). Sure, the PvP kiddies will love their 1-shot kills of the casters from their "stealth" bullshit, but do any mature, intelligent, objective, hardcore gamer types (like you dear readers) actually have "fun" playing this game?

Damn it, I'm gonna have to clear off 25gb on the 150gb Raptor and re-DL this darn thing, I guess. Even finding a great guild on Brandywine with the new LotRO character isn't helping make that game any less annoying or boring. I have an uber enough PC that I might cough up for the AoC pre-order, even though I'm extremely pissed at FunCom's incompetence and lying ("no stealth in our game" and the insanely non-RP and ridiculous "capture the flag" bullshit).

The way it plays now, there won't be any one-shotting out of stealth at higher levels, and there wasn't really any of that at level 20 either.

Are you confusing FunCom with EA/Mythic on the stealth thing? I don't recall FunCom ever stating there wouldn't be any stealth. EA/Mythic stated there wouldn't be, but have since changed their tune.

[Kato Danzo]

Originally Posted by melicant

The way it plays now, there won't be any one-shotting out of stealth at higher levels, and there wasn't really any of that at level 20 either.

Are you confusing FunCom with EA/Mythic on the stealth thing? I don't recall FunCom ever stating there wouldn't be any stealth. EA/Mythic stated there wouldn't be, but have since changed their tune.

Yeah, he must be thinking EA/Mythic. Funcom has stated numerous times that every class could have some sort of stealth and perception ability. What they did say was that you shouldn't expect people to be able to disappear in thin air right in front of you. This was due to the numerous factors involved with stealth in AoC.

[Type0Negative]

Originally Posted by Rezz

Every class can swing a melee weapon, not every class can cast spells. Melee shit's gotta take priority. Them's the breaks I'm afraid.

if anything a worst case scenario is *everyone* plays a ranged class (arrows/spells) for pvp, and melee classes are made just for pve encounters.

the way it is now the cc is just crazy for those that have it. it is far too easy to kite any melee, but some classes also have stellar killing power on top of the cc. i don't know if they balanced for group pvp or 1v1 but some classes are just wicked powerful and 90% of melees will die before they can get to these ranged folks.

i kid you not that as peoples' skills evolve certain casters will be able to take out 2-3 or more opponents at the same time.

also terrain sploiting is beyond anything i have seen before. i mean you fall through the world in many places and steps/corners, basically any intersection of walls seems to be sploitable. i haven't a clue how they can fix something this massive before release. and when you add climbing to the equation it is shaping up to be cheater's heaven for those that thrive on that shit.

yes i am gonna play as it has a lot of potential, i just am not expecting things to be solid for a few months at least.

[Gecko]

Originally Posted by DeBo

Since when do casters actually use their weapons as anything but a focus item? Unless your a true hybrid class, your weapon is pretty much for show.

Wrong game discussion, Chief.

[matmanx2]

Spellweaving still in? If so, that's a pretty big "caster" thing. Last I read on Gamespot it was still a planned feature that sounds pretty awesome.

When I went by Gamestop yesterday I was surprised to learn that the manager and a couple of the regular guys up there also had the game pre-ordered. I think AoC has garnered more interest than I initially realized. I think there might actually be a viable player base IF Funcom can get their act together.

[Vehn]

so If I pre order from amazon, would I also get one of the rhino or mammoth mounts? I'm looking through their details and don't see it listed there. . . Anyone know?

[Twobit Whore]

Amazon orders get a level 25 bow.

And no, spellweaving wasn't in as of the other day. I'll check and see if the last patch added it.. but I didn't see anything in the notes.

[Gecko]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Amazon orders get a level 25 bow.

And no, spellweaving wasn't in as of the other day. I'll check and see if the last patch added it.. but I didn't see anything in the notes.

I think they said that one will be post release, since it's one of the features that isn't ready for primetime. Well, less ready for primetime than many of the other release ones, I should say.

Spellweaving sounds pretty damn cool. I hope it's not a letdown.

[Vehn]

oh.. and I guess none of the US pre orders get rhino's either eh. Gamestop only givse the mammoth :/

[Morannon]

Originally Posted by Flight

I agree; I'm just posting any decent performance reviews I can find between now and release to help people know whats happening. Having said that you can improve your memory to 4Gb and buy an 8800 for $200 and get close to that review. Any RAM over 4GB is a waste of time as there is no 64 bit client.

Thanks, Flight. All the information is helpful.

[Hasto]

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[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Vehn

oh.. and I guess none of the US pre orders get rhino's either eh. Gamestop only givse the mammoth :/

Thought Bestbuy gave the rhino...

[Kato Danzo]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Thought Bestbuy gave the rhino...

Yeah, if you want the Killer Rhino in the US you need to visit Best Buy. I think it's also only an in-store special.