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Schatze · 05-19-2008, 07:40 PM

Well, considering all armor types get similar bonuses, with some variability between cloth and heavier types, it's the type of armor that has to matter. Also identical items, identical visible stats, different level limits. Why the differential when every visible variable including name, bonuses, and type are identical?

I'm just trying to figure out if my logic is right or not. But the visible bonuses I think are the LEAST important things it seems to me from a mit perspective.

Believe · 05-19-2008, 07:40 PM

So, is this game any good? I may actually buy it tomorrow. I got invited to Closed Beta, but never got around to downloading it.

Pyksel · 05-19-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Believe

So, is this game any good? I may actually buy it tomorrow. I got invited to Closed Beta, but never got around to downloading it.

There's plenty of information to wade through in this thread, you may want to take some time to do that.

There's quite a bit of praise for it.

Believe · 05-19-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyksel

There's plenty of information to wade through in this thread, you may want to take some time to do that.

There's quite a bit of praise for it.

Thread is 200+ pages long...and I have like 4 hours of Arabic Homework and Studying to do tonight...

Schatze · 05-19-2008, 07:44 PM

It's good, and what's more, it's got a lot of potential. There're some very obvious areas where the client is lacking which can be easily fixed for instance. This isn't a VG. The game is good now. Funcom has demonstrated they know what the fuck they're doing. If the order numbers are correct, they'll be working night and day because the sales numbers as of now actually might be better than WOW's initial sales numbers.

In short; it's good right now, it's different, and I imagine it's going to get even better.

edit: best launch of an MMORPG per date, arguably best graphics, gameplay is different and this is the important part, because if you don't like the gameplay you won't like the game. Collision is huge both in PVP and PVE. Where you position yourself, where you position the mobs, the type of attacks you use, the mobs shields, the length of your weapon, the size and number of mobs etc. all count a lot, from a melee (and somewhat caster) experience. It's not inherently THAT complex, but you can use that complexity to improve gameplay way more than in another MMORPG.

edit: basically there's a huge difference possible between phoning it in and paying attention, and being an idiot and being an intelligent player.

Also they shortened the time the servers are coming up. It was 4 hours, then they said 8 hours, now it's 4+2 6 hours. Be up midnight EST.

Guzrog · 05-19-2008, 07:45 PM

Fear not! The same questions have been asked 15 times over the last 10 pages, start there.

spronk · 05-19-2008, 07:47 PM

if you are hardcore pvp its awesome
if you haven't played an MMO in 6 months its awesome
if you think mortal kombat or street fighter was the ultimate video game you'll love it
if you live off top ramen (aka dirt poor) you probably want to get a buddy key to see if you'll like it
for some % of people after 2-3 months they will get bored of the game and quit, but then again paying $50+15/mo (first month free) for entertainment that lasts 12-15 hours a week for 2-4 months is a pretty good value proposition in my book (chars dont get deleted or anything if you cancel sub)

Gilgamel · 05-19-2008, 07:51 PM

Yeah, my partner and I are 30. We've already done maze and the borderlands. We spent a fucking hour last night looking for a missing wounded blind girl from the npc by the wagon to Poitain in wildlands. If anyone knows where the hell she is I'd appreciate it, the two of us and some level 34 bear shaman spent what felt like half the night looking for her before giving up. We killed every mob in the area, climbed the mountain and checked every nook and cranny, etc. If it was vanguard I'd just say the quest was broken, but I haven't found a broken quest so far in AoC so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.

I have a couple of general questions if anyone can answer them, there's a lot of vague terminology.

1) What is "natural" health regen. Is that in combat as well, because they mention out of combat specifically? Specifically in the soldier tree the first feat looks interesting, but...

2) What are "secondary" attacks? Is that specifically offhand attacks, or normal weapon attacks, or the combo strikes other than the first(opening) attack?

Here's my spec if anyone has any input, I may have misread something.
Conan Kave - Age of Conan Feat Calculator

I wish they were a bit more specific on their tooltips. The game really holds your hand in a lot of ways, but it also leaves a hell of a lot unknown with regards to other things.

Kobalt · 05-19-2008, 07:52 PM

Read the last 15 pages and searched around the internets and have some questsions..

How are demonologist? Heard they got nerfed hard but are they just no longer overpowered or do they fucking suck? Was thinking about trying a necro but not sure if I feel like lvling a sucks at the beginning class.

Is there any penalty for pve/pvp death at all?

Also...what server is ebonlore on so I can stay the fuck away?

TwiNCannoN · 05-19-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Believe

Thread is 200+ pages long...and I have like 4 hours of Arabic Homework and Studying to do tonight...

Don't worry about reading much more than the last few pages, the majority of the thread is stupidity and whining about how badly unoptimised the beta was and how this game would fail worse than Vanguard.

Wonder if we should get a new one going.

Twobit Whore · 05-19-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Believe

So, is this game any good? I may actually buy it tomorrow. I got invited to Closed Beta, but never got around to downloading it.

Well I'll be the first to admit it's certainly better than I expected it to be at launch. Performance went from unplayable to fantastic about a week from launch.

That alone makes it worth the free month of play since it's really a lot like a single player game.

Sieges being low numbers, instanced and 'scheduled' plus being based on battleground 'minigames' has really destroyed my hopes for that.

PvE raiding.. well, we will see what's up with that in a few weeks I would imagine.

I think the game will spike early and trickle off though still. I don't see it being a 'WoW killer' or even a dent.

Spontaneous Cumbustion · 05-19-2008, 07:55 PM

If anyone ends up with an extra buddy code they don't want I'm kinda strapped for cash till the end of the month but would like to try the game out. A lot of what I'm reading sounds like fun.

Lonin · 05-19-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

Read the last 15 pages and searched around the internets and have some questsions..

How are demonologist? Heard they got nerfed hard but are they just no longer overpowered or do they fucking suck? Was thinking about trying a necro but not sure if I feel like lvling a sucks at the beginning class.

Is there any penalty for pve/pvp death at all?

Also...what server is ebonlore on so I can stay the fuck away?

Death penalty is a stacking damage debuff and a port to a res point. It's pretty minor unelss you die a bunch of times without getting your tombstone.

Ebonlore is on Tyranny, until they get banned at some point anyway.

Jabberwhacky · 05-19-2008, 07:57 PM

It is rather ironic that some tooltips are so completely vague (or wrong) and yet this item doesn't just give you 0 HP, it gives you 0.00!

TwiNCannoN · 05-19-2008, 07:59 PM

Never understood the big deal about Ebonlore. Banned from vanguard for exploiting? When did that give a group of people the right to be e-celebrities? There was way more epic drama that went down in EQ and other games.

Ironically the few of them I've met so far have been upstanding people... although I'm really happy with Tyranny so far, I was pretty worried about AoC attracting idiots in general but this server's community seems pretty decent amazingly. I haven't even /ignored a single person yet, now that I think of it... wow (I must've ignored a dozen on my first day in beta - then again, /global was turned on back then haha).

05-19-2008, 07:44 PM	#4415 (permalink)
Schatze Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,619 -3 Internets	It's good, and what's more, it's got a lot of potential. There're some very obvious areas where the client is lacking which can be easily fixed for instance. This isn't a VG. The game is good now. Funcom has demonstrated they know what the fuck they're doing. If the order numbers are correct, they'll be working night and day because the sales numbers as of now actually might be better than WOW's initial sales numbers. In short; it's good right now, it's different, and I imagine it's going to get even better. edit: best launch of an MMORPG per date, arguably best graphics, gameplay is different and this is the important part, because if you don't like the gameplay you won't like the game. Collision is huge both in PVP and PVE. Where you position yourself, where you position the mobs, the type of attacks you use, the mobs shields, the length of your weapon, the size and number of mobs etc. all count a lot, from a melee (and somewhat caster) experience. It's not inherently THAT complex, but you can use that complexity to improve gameplay way more than in another MMORPG. edit: basically there's a huge difference possible between phoning it in and paying attention, and being an idiot and being an intelligent player. Also they shortened the time the servers are coming up. It was 4 hours, then they said 8 hours, now it's 4+2 6 hours. Be up midnight EST. Last edited by Schatze; 05-19-2008 at 07:54 PM..

05-19-2008, 07:51 PM	#4418 (permalink)
Gilgamel King Me Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rocky Top Posts: 2,478 +0 Internets	Yeah, my partner and I are 30. We've already done maze and the borderlands. We spent a fucking hour last night looking for a missing wounded blind girl from the npc by the wagon to Poitain in wildlands. If anyone knows where the hell she is I'd appreciate it, the two of us and some level 34 bear shaman spent what felt like half the night looking for her before giving up. We killed every mob in the area, climbed the mountain and checked every nook and cranny, etc. If it was vanguard I'd just say the quest was broken, but I haven't found a broken quest so far in AoC so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. I have a couple of general questions if anyone can answer them, there's a lot of vague terminology. 1) What is "natural" health regen. Is that in combat as well, because they mention out of combat specifically? Specifically in the soldier tree the first feat looks interesting, but... 2) What are "secondary" attacks? Is that specifically offhand attacks, or normal weapon attacks, or the combo strikes other than the first(opening) attack? Here's my spec if anyone has any input, I may have misread something. Conan Kave - Age of Conan Feat Calculator I wish they were a bit more specific on their tooltips. The game really holds your hand in a lot of ways, but it also leaves a hell of a lot unknown with regards to other things. __________________ Just an earthbound misfit, I

05-19-2008, 07:57 PM	#4424 (permalink)
Jabberwhacky Walker told me I have AIDS Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Busan Posts: 3,334	It is rather ironic that some tooltips are so completely vague (or wrong) and yet this item doesn't just give you 0 HP, it gives you 0.00! Attached Images

05-19-2008, 07:59 PM	#4425 (permalink)
TwiNCannoN kill yourself irl Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,249 +0 Internets	Never understood the big deal about Ebonlore. Banned from vanguard for exploiting? When did that give a group of people the right to be e-celebrities? There was way more epic drama that went down in EQ and other games. Ironically the few of them I've met so far have been upstanding people... although I'm really happy with Tyranny so far, I was pretty worried about AoC attracting idiots in general but this server's community seems pretty decent amazingly. I haven't even /ignored a single person yet, now that I think of it... wow (I must've ignored a dozen on my first day in beta - then again, /global was turned on back then haha). __________________ <- what happens when you get stuck playing support 24/7 i write stuff sometimes

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05-19-2008, 07:40 PM	#4411 (permalink)
Schatze Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,619 -3 Internets	Well, considering all armor types get similar bonuses, with some variability between cloth and heavier types, it's the type of armor that has to matter. Also identical items, identical visible stats, different level limits. Why the differential when every visible variable including name, bonuses, and type are identical? I'm just trying to figure out if my logic is right or not. But the visible bonuses I think are the LEAST important things it seems to me from a mit perspective.

05-19-2008, 07:40 PM	#4412 (permalink)
Believe Analyst and Therapist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,067 -14 Internets	So, is this game any good? I may actually buy it tomorrow. I got invited to Closed Beta, but never got around to downloading it.

05-19-2008, 07:45 PM	#4416 (permalink)
Guzrog My wallet is in the bag. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 376 +11 Internets	Fear not! The same questions have been asked 15 times over the last 10 pages, start there.

05-19-2008, 07:47 PM	#4417 (permalink)
spronk nerd Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,097	if you are hardcore pvp its awesome if you haven't played an MMO in 6 months its awesome if you think mortal kombat or street fighter was the ultimate video game you'll love it if you live off top ramen (aka dirt poor) you probably want to get a buddy key to see if you'll like it for some % of people after 2-3 months they will get bored of the game and quit, but then again paying $50+15/mo (first month free) for entertainment that lasts 12-15 hours a week for 2-4 months is a pretty good value proposition in my book (chars dont get deleted or anything if you cancel sub)

05-19-2008, 07:52 PM	#4419 (permalink)
Kobalt Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,045 +22 Internets	Read the last 15 pages and searched around the internets and have some questsions.. How are demonologist? Heard they got nerfed hard but are they just no longer overpowered or do they fucking suck? Was thinking about trying a necro but not sure if I feel like lvling a sucks at the beginning class. Is there any penalty for pve/pvp death at all? Also...what server is ebonlore on so I can stay the fuck away?

05-19-2008, 07:55 PM	#4422 (permalink)
Spontaneous Cumbustion Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wilmington, DE, USA Posts: 525	If anyone ends up with an extra buddy code they don't want I'm kinda strapped for cash till the end of the month but would like to try the game out. A lot of what I'm reading sounds like fun.