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[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by Cinge

On the open beta atm are spells after lvl 20 open? I got to lvl 23 no new spells, so I figured maybe its from a trainer or something, and i can find PoM scroll merchants, but none of them work and the only NPC i can find with "trainer" is the feat reset lady.

I'll probably end up on a PVE server. The "pvp" i saw today is not what i want. At least 5 people camping the rez spot. Multiple ppl sitting stealthed at quest NPCs that wait until you get in dialogue with the NPC and attack, and there's nothing you can do.

I could hold my own on PoM, enjoying the after 20. The self heal helps alot, instead of relying on the shitty HoTs. Some of the feats are still worthless, descriptions like "increases dmg by 0.0%". And if you dont spec into the maga regen talent shit is hard as hell to solo. 2 mobs is iffy depending on thier lvl and you using a mana regen pot. But pump 5 pts into that mana regen feat and i can take on 4 with no problem that are 2-3 lvls above me.

Only other issue I have is the invisible lakes. Just running along, then all of a sudden your swimming through the air. Or your in a river swimming, and you stop swimming, but just run normally, but you cant get out because you cant run up the edge of the river bank to get out.

they broke alot of the water in the last patch somehow, so you cant swim in some of it... the shit in great wildlands tho has been fubar forever since they changed the map and forgot to remove some of the lakes.

[ModernDayDruid]

Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

You only have to replace one little text file to convert your client to using different patch/game servers... relax.

What? Anyone have instructions on this? I want to get in on the killing spree...

[Big W Powah!]

Okay, I'm gonna be a whiny bitch.

Can someone recomend a class for me? Heh. I enjoy the healer aspect, and like to be able to handle my own. I also enjoy melee. Obvious choice; bear shaman.

I'm curious as to what other melee classes might fit the support-utility role, though? Or how the PoM and ToS are higher up. I hate being fucking squishy, but if they're durable with enough pwn then I'd be all for it.

[TwiNCannoN]

Originally Posted by Big W Powah!

Okay, I'm gonna be a whiny bitch.

Can someone recomend a class for me? Heh. I enjoy the healer aspect, and like to be able to handle my own. I also enjoy melee. Obvious choice; bear shaman.

I'm curious as to what other melee classes might fit the support-utility role, though? Or how the PoM and ToS are higher up. I hate being fucking squishy, but if they're durable with enough pwn then I'd be all for it.

Sounds like bear shaman or DT. Bear shaman is basically a barbarian with less HP/CC and more heals/buffs. DT is pretty neat, it doesn't have that much group utility but he has way more than any other melee in the game, including a marytr spell wherein he hurts himselfs and heals his group (which is very handy if he's not main tanking in a group). He can feat this to restore stamina/mana as well. Of course he can also tank most common stuff and if he is offtanking in a group he can use frenzy stance for more dps (which, unlike a lot of games with a similar ability, actually works).

PoM and ToS aren't melee at all, the only time I melee on my ToS is when I'm running my pulsing PBAOE's and have time to throw a swing or two in. ToS is definitely squishy with DT having about double the hitpoints (same with PoM I think). Both classes have some good survivability spells/options though (ToS even has an "ankh" feat if you will, can come back to life once every 30 minutes).

[Grumpy Old Fart]

As a PoM or ToS, you won't be doing any melee at all, other than a final swipe to finish off a "0%" mob/player. The PoM is going to be healing and smiting (their talents generally improve smiting the more you heal) and the ToS is going to be nuking and healing (their heals generally improve the more they nuke). I haven't played a Bear Shaman, but I believe they generally heal better the more they melee, so this might be the one you're looking for.

Both PoM and ToS are great fun from my experience. I highly recommend you try them out. PoM may be more interesting since ToS is basically spamming 1-2 nukes for nearly your entire leveling curve.

And as for PvP, none of these three classes is going to be 2-shot by the "stealth" (AKA, lazy asshole class designer bullshit to pander to the ganker kiddies) classes like the clothies - not to mention that everybody on your team will love you and you can "save the day" many times over - so you'll have a lot more fun there as well.

[spronk]

Keep in mind POMs are bugged atm and their spell damage is more than intended (the dmg buff you get from heals stacks incorrectly instead of clearing after a time, so the longer you basically fight the more damage you do). Bear shamans also have this problem. There are also bugs with the way certain buffs are multiply-stacking (holy ven, WoL) Once these bus are fixed PoMs and BS's will be a bit weaker.

POMs aoe's are also stronger than they really should be, and will probably get nerfed at some point soon. They are near demo level in DPS, which doesn't make sense, when you toss in the heals.

[dreaderus]

[quote=Ashes Emberblade;1067460]There's a separate item you have to add to your cart. It's $10.00 and you get a $10.00 discount if you also preorder AoC. The card with the beta key on it ships via UPS Mail Innovations (UPS sorts, hands off to USPS to deliver.)

The bestbuy site is confusing regarding it, but go here to do it in the US:

Free Bonus Pack Offer

yeah the preorder pack doesnt show up on the website at bestbuy.ca for some reason

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by spronk

Keep in mind POMs are bugged atm and their spell damage is more than intended (the dmg buff you get from heals stacks incorrectly instead of clearing after a time, so the longer you basically fight the more damage you do). Bear shamans also have this problem. There are also bugs with the way certain buffs are multiply-stacking (holy ven, WoL) Once these bus are fixed PoMs and BS's will be a bit weaker.

POMs aoe's are also stronger than they really should be, and will probably get nerfed at some point soon. They are near demo level in DPS, which doesn't make sense, when you toss in the heals.

While I admit PoMs seem a bit over-powered at the moment, I don't know where the heck you're getting these tidbits of information from. I've heard them around here before, but there isn't a single post anywhere on Closed Beta forums with anything similar to these comments. And that damage buff doesn't seem bugged, actually. It feels more "weird" than anything. Sometimes I'll have that buff going and my Smites, etc. will be doing a bit more damage than usual, and other times it seems they're about halved in damage. I'm still not sure if this is based on mobs having +Holy resistance or whatever.

In any event, they better not nerf PoMs too much or nobody will be playing them. They aren't "flashy" like most of the other classes, so they need to be a touch over-powered (or at least have really good defenses) to draw people to playing healers.

See you folks on the RP-PvP servers soon (except you "u"-speaking kiddies - fuck off), including all of you tough guys who bail on the FFA-PvP servers when you see what cesspools they are.

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

I've heard them around here before, but there isn't a single post anywhere on Closed Beta forums with anything similar to these comments. And that damage buff doesn't seem bugged, actually. It feels more "weird" than anything. Sometimes I'll have that buff going and my Smites, etc. will be doing a bit more damage than usual, and other times it seems they're about halved in damage. I'm still not sure if this is based on mobs having +Holy resistance or whatever..

Really? There are dozens of threads in the PoM class forums. Here is one: Age of Conan Beta Forums

And as of right now, the RP-PvP and FFA-PvP servers are going to be the same ruleset.

Of course they haven't even got a ruleset yet so who knows!

[Gylen]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

As a PoM or ToS, you won't be doing any melee at all, other than a final swipe to finish off a "0%" mob/player. The PoM is going to be healing and smiting (their talents generally improve smiting the more you heal) and the ToS is going to be nuking and healing (their heals generally improve the more they nuke). I haven't played a Bear Shaman, but I believe they generally heal better the more they melee, so this might be the one you're looking for.

Both PoM and ToS are great fun from my experience. I highly recommend you try them out. PoM may be more interesting since ToS is basically spamming 1-2 nukes for nearly your entire leveling curve.

And as for PvP, none of these three classes is going to be 2-shot by the "stealth" (AKA, lazy asshole class designer bullshit to pander to the ganker kiddies) classes like the clothies - not to mention that everybody on your team will love you and you can "save the day" many times over - so you'll have a lot more fun there as well.

The Bear Shaman is very much like the PoM, in the way the more they heal the more they do damage. For example, the PoM and Bear shaman have almost the exact same feat. The more Wave of Life the PoM casts, the more damage their nukes will do for a short time. The more Blood Flow the Bear Shaman casts, the more damage their melee hits will do. Both stack up to 5 times and every recast refreshs the entire timer so it's easy to stack up to 5.

They are both more group friendly than the ToS, imo.

[Schatze]

Heh definitely going PVE server after the clusterfuck FFA PVP seems to be. Spawn point camping, camping quest NPCs, etc. Too many stupid things.

[Lost Ranger]

With some proper immunities put into place the FFA pvp server wont be too bad. Im still going PvE just because I hate being dicked with while leveling but I can't see them just leaving the FFA the way it is now. It will be a ghost town pretty fast.

Still been pretty fun killing everything that moves today though hehe. Rangers + perching = win.

[TwiNCannoN]

yeah, there may be some glaring exploits/technical issues but that PVP thing is probably the most important. You can't just say "don't roll PVP" in response to how bad it is currently.

"Due to technical issues with the updater the Early Access client will not be available until later afternoon tomorrow. The opening date for the Early Access (17th of May) is not affected by this though. It just means the starting time of the download will start a tad bit later than initially planned. Thanks for your understanding."

I'm not worried about downloading the client but I sure hope they don't pull another delay storm when the actual servers come up.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

I read that post about PoMs being "bugged". It's simply not true, unless it's some random thing that doesn't happen to everybody. I've tested that hundreds of times with my 30 PoM, sometimes being in the same zone for over eight hours, and never had any "damage stack" thing going on. In any event, "this is BETA" and we'll just have to see how things work on Day 1 soon.

One word you need to know to avoid the FFA-PvP server(s) like the plague: Search on Guilds on ClosedBetaPvP server yields an "Ebonlore". Talk about a hive of scum and villainy (and hacks and exploits and constant griefing and...).

And anybody who doesn't sprint in the other direction when seeing a perching Ranger shooting them (arrows leave a "trail" behind them so you know which way they came from) is a newb that deserves to die.

[Vehn]

what does ranger perching do again?