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balouch · 05-03-2008, 03:47 AM

Yeah I guess I can't play the incredible graphics I've seen in the AOC videos and pictures unless I upgrade my video card so that it can render that kind of genre defining, amazing eye candy.

balouch · 05-03-2008, 03:51 AM

Oh look, a reply on the official boards

Quote:

i have 8800 GTX 768 graphic card. dual core AMD 2.8 mhz 2 GB ram

with xp.

and the game us running horrible for me as well.

I'm going to post and tell him to upgrade his 8800 GTX, clearly it's not good enough for AOC.

Vatoreus · 05-03-2008, 03:57 AM

If his game is running terribly, he fails at computers, b/c that set up is nearly identical to mine, but his has a better cpu. Running the game at 1680x1050 and everything set to max I never dropped below 20 FPS and that was when it dipped, averaged about 30fps. While that isn't as amazing as it could be, it definitely is by no means "terrible" Also, before I get branded as a fanboi, I haven't pre-ordered it and I sold the beta account. Whether I'll be playing or not is down to how many of my friends are playing.

balouch · 05-03-2008, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vatoreus

If his game is running terribly, he fails at computers, b/c that set up is nearly identical to mine, but his has a better cpu. Running the game at 1680x1050 I never dropped below 20 FPS and that was when it dipped, averaged about 30fps. While that isn't as amazing as it could be, it definitely is by no means "terrible"

Wait, you just said "So your card is a budget card released a year and a half ago." (and blamed the game running like ass on my rig) and now you're saying your PC is close to the same as mine but mine is a little better. Hmmmm. Wtf is the question of the day.

Second, you can play at 20 FPS if you want, but 20 FPS to me is not playable. So sorry, but I'd rather watch Hillary Clinton debates on CNN than play games at 20 FPS. Ty.

I think playing Vanguard is reducing your expectations of PC gaming.

Vatoreus · 05-03-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by balouch

Wait, you just said "So your card is a budget card released a year and a half ago." (and blamed the game running like ass on my rig) and now you're saying your PC is close to the same as mine but mine is a little better. Hmmmm. Wtf is the question of the day.

Second, you can play at 20 FPS if you want, but 20 FPS to me is not playable. So sorry, but I'd rather watch Hillary Clinton debates on CNN than play games at 20 FPS. Ty.

I think playing Vanguard is reducing your expectations of PC gaming.

No...I said it was close to the guy you quoted... Mine is an 8800 GTX 2.2ghz AMD processor and 2gb of shitty ram. Should be upgrading once my stimulus package gets here b/c it runs like ass and my CPU/RAM bottlenecks the fuck out of my GPU.

Also, I said it dipped to 20, averaged at 30-35 fps. You can stop sniping parts of my posts now, kthx.

balouch · 05-03-2008, 04:06 AM

Maybe, just maybe, the engine runs like shit on certain configs and it's not due to the persons hardware but more due to the engine?

You know, you can like a game and admit it has flaws.

Why do fanbois fall in love so hard? It always leads to such heartache.

Inconsiderable · 05-03-2008, 04:21 AM

It seems like RAM is the most important thing for AoC. For a friend it was unplayable until he bought another gig and now it works perfectly fine. Many beta tester reported similiar things. Shitty or too small RAM kills your performance.

I run a slightly oc'ed 8800gtx, 4 gb ram, e6750 @ 3.2 or so ghz and I can max everything (including that aa16q, all view distances, etc) at 1680x1050 and it runs with smooth 25 fps in the worst cases so far, usually 5-10 fps more even in pvp. In retail I will lower the settings so I can play with constant 60 fps in the worst cases aka massive siege battles. That means dropping aa and maxing view distance for particles, maybe also shadow details (am I the only one who couldnt care less about shadows?).

Vatoreus · 05-03-2008, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balouch

Maybe, just maybe, the engine runs like shit on certain configs and it's not due to the persons hardware but more due to the engine?

You know, you can like a game and admit it has flaws.

Why do fanbois fall in love so hard? It always leads to such heartache.

Holy shit dude, you're nearly as bad as Jayrebb. Read this please:

I. AM. NOT. PLAYING. THIS. ANYMORE.

So please, stfu with the god damn fanboi bs b/c I'm only even thinking of playing this game if enough of my friends do, otherwise I'm doing just fine playing other shit.

balouch · 05-03-2008, 04:35 AM

Easy on the caps cheech, it doesn't make you ecool.

Stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop pointing it out. Deal? (or no deal)?

Elerion · 05-03-2008, 05:10 AM

God, will you idiots pipe down? It's plain and obvious that something is wrong with the interaction between AoC and his rig. That FRAPS doesn't show "poor performance", it shows "bugged to all hell". Upgrading the graphics card might fix the issue, but that would be due to compatibility issues and not pure power increase.

But jesus fucking christ, is it really worth shitting up 3 pages here whining that your rig has compatibility issues with AoC? It sucks, we get it. Send them a bug report, cancel your preorder and shut the fuck up.

balouch · 05-03-2008, 05:27 AM

That is my whole point... it is possible that game doesn't run properly on certain configurations.

PS drop the holier than though bullshit attitude, it's a discussion forum, we are meant to discuss (which means opposing viewpoints).

Zindan · 05-03-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodylan

We're coming from pretty much any MMO you've probably played and they all look terrible in comparison. None of them have done properly what AoC seems to in terms of things like bump mapping, water, shaders, etc. Granted AoC has its flaws in graphics (Cylus pointed one out with the lava), but they blow anything released thus far totally out of the water. EQ2 and Vanguard both look disgustingly "fake" in comparison.

Hm, I have to disagree a bit with this. The graphics in AoC are good, but they are not amazing, the character models are pretty bad...at least the female models. Just look at them while they are standing in the combat stance...if you think that looks amazing you're on crack. Male characters look alright, better than both EQ2 / VG.

Characters do look great during their creation though, better than any other game I've played (pretty much every MMO released, free or paid). The environments are ok, but still look fake..too shiny / bumpy, except the water, that does look great

Elerion · 05-03-2008, 05:56 AM

You don't get to call "QQ" to others. Because of your nerd rage tears I could hear water running through my speakers reading the last few pages of this thread. This isn't the Conan Tech Support forum, and noone wants to read 20 posts with details about how AoC skullfucks your specific rig.

Can we get back to talking about the game now?

The level 20 cap on preorder seems like a really, really bad idea to me. Beta players will cap within hours and spend the rest 3 days bored out of their mind with nothing productive to do. What ever will bored level 20s in Tortage do for days? That's right, gank the everliving shit out of everyone dumb enough to enter Underhalls or Sands more than 10 hours after servers are up. Newbies that preordered will get their 1-20 experience completely ruined.

As if that wasn't enough reason to just say no to a level 20 cap, now everyone will start out at the same time in Conall's and sisterzones. Of these I've only seen Conall's, but that zone is NOT designed to accomodate hundreds of players on the same progression level.

Tortage is possibly the best "day 1" start zone of any MMO ever since you get to play so much single player there instead of fighting over limited spawns. Why they would throw that advantage out the window is beyond me.

balouch · 05-03-2008, 06:16 AM

Again from official forums

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+1 i have c2d 6600@3330mhz , 8800gts640mb , 2gbcorsair 5400 / vista 32 ult < damnit 25-30 fps in hold position , 5-10 in movin *(((

Looks like it's not an isolated freak incident.

Inconsiderable · 05-03-2008, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zindan

Hm, I have to disagree a bit with this. The graphics in AoC are good, but they are not amazing, the character models are pretty bad...at least the female models. Just look at them while they are standing in the combat stance...if you think that looks amazing you're on crack. Male characters look alright, better than both EQ2 / VG.

Characters do look great during their creation though, better than any other game I've played (pretty much every MMO released, free or paid). The environments are ok, but still look fake..too shiny / bumpy, except the water, that does look great

On what settings do you play?

05-03-2008, 03:57 AM	#1818 (permalink)
Vatoreus Forza Roma! Forza Azzuri! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Angelo, TX Posts: 3,861 -22 Internets	If his game is running terribly, he fails at computers, b/c that set up is nearly identical to mine, but his has a better cpu. Running the game at 1680x1050 and everything set to max I never dropped below 20 FPS and that was when it dipped, averaged about 30fps. While that isn't as amazing as it could be, it definitely is by no means "terrible" Also, before I get branded as a fanboi, I haven't pre-ordered it and I sold the beta account. Whether I'll be playing or not is down to how many of my friends are playing. __________________ UOWoW Vator Druid Vatoreus // Death Knight // Blackhand Last edited by Vatoreus; 05-03-2008 at 03:59 AM..

05-03-2008, 05:27 AM	#1826 (permalink)
balouch Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 101 -1 Internets	That is my whole point... it is possible that game doesn't run properly on certain configurations. PS drop the holier than though bullshit attitude, it's a discussion forum, we are meant to discuss (which means opposing viewpoints). Last edited by balouch; 05-03-2008 at 05:51 AM..

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05-03-2008, 03:47 AM	#1816 (permalink)
balouch Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 101 -1 Internets	Yeah I guess I can't play the incredible graphics I've seen in the AOC videos and pictures unless I upgrade my video card so that it can render that kind of genre defining, amazing eye candy.

05-03-2008, 04:06 AM	#1821 (permalink)
balouch Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 101 -1 Internets	Maybe, just maybe, the engine runs like shit on certain configs and it's not due to the persons hardware but more due to the engine? You know, you can like a game and admit it has flaws. Why do fanbois fall in love so hard? It always leads to such heartache.

05-03-2008, 04:21 AM	#1822 (permalink)
Inconsiderable the princess approves Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,487 +0 Internets	It seems like RAM is the most important thing for AoC. For a friend it was unplayable until he bought another gig and now it works perfectly fine. Many beta tester reported similiar things. Shitty or too small RAM kills your performance. I run a slightly oc'ed 8800gtx, 4 gb ram, e6750 @ 3.2 or so ghz and I can max everything (including that aa16q, all view distances, etc) at 1680x1050 and it runs with smooth 25 fps in the worst cases so far, usually 5-10 fps more even in pvp. In retail I will lower the settings so I can play with constant 60 fps in the worst cases aka massive siege battles. That means dropping aa and maxing view distance for particles, maybe also shadow details (am I the only one who couldnt care less about shadows?).

05-03-2008, 04:35 AM	#1824 (permalink)
balouch Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 101 -1 Internets	Easy on the caps cheech, it doesn't make you ecool. Stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop pointing it out. Deal? (or no deal)?

05-03-2008, 05:10 AM	#1825 (permalink)
Elerion My milkshake Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,092 +6 Internets	God, will you idiots pipe down? It's plain and obvious that something is wrong with the interaction between AoC and his rig. That FRAPS doesn't show "poor performance", it shows "bugged to all hell". Upgrading the graphics card might fix the issue, but that would be due to compatibility issues and not pure power increase. But jesus fucking christ, is it really worth shitting up 3 pages here whining that your rig has compatibility issues with AoC? It sucks, we get it. Send them a bug report, cancel your preorder and shut the fuck up.

05-03-2008, 05:56 AM	#1828 (permalink)
Elerion My milkshake Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,092 +6 Internets	You don't get to call "QQ" to others. Because of your nerd rage tears I could hear water running through my speakers reading the last few pages of this thread. This isn't the Conan Tech Support forum, and noone wants to read 20 posts with details about how AoC skullfucks your specific rig. Can we get back to talking about the game now? The level 20 cap on preorder seems like a really, really bad idea to me. Beta players will cap within hours and spend the rest 3 days bored out of their mind with nothing productive to do. What ever will bored level 20s in Tortage do for days? That's right, gank the everliving shit out of everyone dumb enough to enter Underhalls or Sands more than 10 hours after servers are up. Newbies that preordered will get their 1-20 experience completely ruined. As if that wasn't enough reason to just say no to a level 20 cap, now everyone will start out at the same time in Conall's and sisterzones. Of these I've only seen Conall's, but that zone is NOT designed to accomodate hundreds of players on the same progression level. Tortage is possibly the best "day 1" start zone of any MMO ever since you get to play so much single player there instead of fighting over limited spawns. Why they would throw that advantage out the window is beyond me.