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Old 03-18-2008, 04:56 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Um, Tolkien wrote the Hobbit in the 20's yo. Sure he got it published later on in 1937 but he did in fact write it in the late 20's. He wrote it few years before Conan was written (the early 30's). The Hobbit was written before Kull as well.

So ya, Howard came after Tolkien.
Actually, Howards first literary works (the Solomon Kane stuff) were published in Weird Tales in 1928. Kull was introduced in WT in 1929. The Hobbit, regardless of when it was written, never reached the light of the public eye until 1937.

Semantics be damned, they were both incredible literary artists.
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:05 PM   #167 (permalink)
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My point is calling Tolkien an "05'er" is incorrect, you god damn 05'er.
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:07 PM   #168 (permalink)
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My point is calling Tolkien an "05'er" is incorrect, you god damn 05'er.
LOL.... right, hes clearly a '37'er
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:11 PM   #169 (permalink)
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Yes, because it was written in 37 fo realz.

Damn 05'ers.
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:13 PM   #170 (permalink)
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Yes, because it was written in 37 fo realz.

Damn 05'ers.
Hey, just cuz you've been lurking since 02 and finally registered a few years later, doesn't make you an 02.

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Old 03-18-2008, 05:27 PM   #171 (permalink)
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QFT! I expect AoC is going to launch much like Vanguard did. With too much shit broken and too many bugs. However I am still going to pick it up because Funcom has repeteadly written AWESOME story lines.
I think AoC will be more playable for more people than Vanguard was at release. My biggest concern at the moment is stress testing with thousands online simultaneously. I'm not sure the current beta population is representative of what is going to hit a server on launch day.

Still time for that level of testing though.
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:36 PM   #172 (permalink)
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I'm not sure the current beta population is representative of what is going to hit a server on launch day.
I'd say nowhere close. But open beta should provide a pretty decent indication of what they'll need to online for launch day.
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:48 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Based upon reading the beta (or Tech Beta -I forget) forums 2-4 weeks ago, I'd hazard a guess that not more than 100 people actually got patched up and into the game during the 5-hour "Tech Beta" things. I do believe the beta forums are now discontinued, which says all sorts of bad things about FunCom and their intent to "communicate" with their playerbase.

The cynical side of me likes to think that FunCom deliberately released huge patches on the day of the "Test" and then pulled the plug on their patch servers just to severely limit the playing population (or at least assure that only those on a T3 line could DL the patch before the "Test" was over).
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shit dude, it was 1 fuckin test they did that on and it was back in december, get over it.
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Um, Tolkien wrote the Hobbit in the 20's yo. Sure he got it published later on in 1937 but he did in fact write it in the late 20's. He wrote it few years before Conan was written (the early 30's). The Hobbit was written before Kull as well.

So ya, Howard came after Tolkien.
Howard was dead by '37.

In the late 20's the Hobbit was a story Tolkien told his kids at bed time. He didn't write anything down on paper until the 30's. Apart from which its a kiddies fairy story and its shit. I doubt it would be known of if it wasn't for the LotR.

He published nothing of note until the mid 50's. Hence he is a scummy 50'ser.
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I remember reading somewhere that Tolkein and Howard shared a lot of stuff and there was even speculation that LotRO and Conan occured in the same 'universe' just at much different times. I looked around but couldn't find where I saw that though.
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I remember reading somewhere that Tolkein and Howard shared a lot of stuff and there was even speculation that LotRO and Conan occured in the same 'universe' just at much different times. I looked around but couldn't find where I saw that though.
Pretty sure thats not true mate. Howard and Lovecraft were close friends, as were Tolkien and Lewis.
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:17 PM   #178 (permalink)
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I'd have to say that Howard's version of fantasy was far more "surreal and horrific" than Tolkien's. There wasn't much about Howard's style of fantasy that could be considered "high". Which I think is where the line gets blurred.

Both outstanding in thier individual styles.
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:26 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Apart from which its a kiddies fairy story and its shit. I doubt it would be known of if it wasn't for the LotR.
A kiddies fairy story and it is shit? Quite humorous but don't give up your day job.

If not for the Hobbit, he wouldn't have started writing LotR at the request of his publisher in 1937. Yes it took him over 12 years to get it completed and another 5 years after that to get it published, but it doesn't change the fact that Tolkien was around writing during and of course much longer than your suicidal hero's time span.
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Howard was dead by '37.

In the late 20's the Hobbit was a story Tolkien told his kids at bed time. He didn't write anything down on paper until the 30's. Apart from which its a kiddies fairy story and its shit. I doubt it would be known of if it wasn't for the LotR.

He published nothing of note until the mid 50's. Hence he is a scummy 50'ser.
He wrote the stories during WWII (The trilogy part) as a followup to The Hobbit. And The Hobbit was first published in 1937, and apparently began in late 1920s which he claims began after scribbling something on a blank sheet while grading class papers. Be ironic if he plagiarized the idea heheh.

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