EQ1 AA changes - Page 3

Twobit Whore · 02-12-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Simoran

Upgrade the graphic engine, make third person control equal to wow :P, better interface, remove zones, faster leveling, more solo mobs, quests, and quest give alot of exp ..

What would that leave us at?

EQ2?

Mkopec1 · 02-12-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

EQ2?

Without the suck though. Yeah.

Jait · 02-12-2008, 07:19 PM

Some of you guys are onto something. I agree there needs to be more in place than just a multiplier. Maybe an immersive quest with a pre-req of 0-10 total AA's that grants 25 AA's as a reward. A longer quest for players with 35-50 AA's that grants another 25. Etc... I don't really know where they're at now, but up to 100 *total* AA's seems about right for these quests.

Moreover they could use the quests as an opportunity to get people up to date with the current Lore and status of the game.

Going overboard a little, they could even restructure some of the Old World. Are Nag and Vox even raided anymore? I somehow doubt that there's enough 53- players to accomplish it, but I really dunno what the current rate of Mudflation is there now. Give Nag, Vox and perhaps Phinny some quests to hand out. Nag could whine about how no one ever fights him anymore and he's growing bitter for the attention. He'll grant you 25 AA's of his own personal power if you spread the rumor to certain NPC's across the expansions that he's a real threat again.

Point is, there's still a lot of potential to EQ1, but they rarely execute anymore, and a multiplier (while awesome) isn't going to bring folks back like a real effort would. It's probably not cost effective /shrug

jayrebb · 02-12-2008, 07:48 PM

Those proposed quests jait would be cute and serve nostalgia purposes. Cost effective? Maybe a days work?

Too bad Sony has the creative team of a bag of rocks.

PosterOfStuff · 02-12-2008, 08:41 PM

Everquest has a lot of potential.
Everquest could be awesome.

Those phrases I could well imagine have echoed inside everyones head that has played this game.

Why the fuck they haven't release a suite of tools to enable players to make movies and shit, I just don't understand. Player + MakingMovie + YouTube = No Advertising Costs for SOE.

I suppose Youtube, making movies from the game you are playing and the internet delivering to such a wide audience are not concepts SOE understand yet.

Locithon · 02-12-2008, 08:41 PM

Did they say when their doing this? I just hit 50 on FV and have 0 AA's... was just about to start getting them too.

Bristlebane · 02-12-2008, 09:04 PM

Fuck. I don't think I ever quite broke 100 AA's when I quit during PoP.

God it was so boring to grind AA's.

Suineg · 02-12-2008, 09:30 PM

How about having an old school server wouldn't that be cool?!?!?!?!?

Just had to put that in there since someone is going to.

I have a friend grinding out AA's using a bot program. Gaining 30 a day solo at level 65 doing some kind of instance something I don't remember and it doesn't really matter. Point is AA's are lame and just hold people back from full potential in an artificial timesink. I would rather have more VT keys to farm then more AA's.

Jait · 02-12-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Fuck. I don't think I ever quite broke 100 AA's when I quit during PoP.

God it was so boring to grind AA's.

I left around the same time (2002?), I think I had about 45 at best, but I was a lazy bastard. Grinding that much in HoH largely contributed to my annoyance and departure.

And Jayrebb, it's an example applying to AA's. The precursor to which was "Restructuring the Old-World". I really dont have the time or wont to type up 70 pages, so I thought that might be a understandable example. Clearly, I was wrong.

Making EQ1 a desireable game despite being from the first generation is a task I seriously doubt they'd ever consider cost-effective. They'd probably throw a ton of cliche jargon around like, "We're looking forward, not backwards." In any event, they have a recognizable license second only to WoW in the MMO community, and how they continually fail at properly using it is mind-boggling. The first step needs to be catching players up to date, without overwhelming them. Hence the example given.

Twobit Whore · 02-12-2008, 09:31 PM

I was approaching 1k AA on my necro back in PoP and a little into GoD.

Goliath · 02-12-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

I was approaching 1k AA on my necro back in PoP and a little into GoD.

Wouldn't doubt it Mr. 8,000 posts in a few days.

Zehn - Vhex · 02-12-2008, 10:13 PM

I exploited for all 230 of mine.

Golbez · 02-12-2008, 10:25 PM

I exploited for 1100ish of mine

Go go Kaladim bonechip exploit

AladainAF · 02-13-2008, 12:01 AM

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Maybe an immersive quest with a pre-req of 0-10 total AA's that grants 25 AA's as a reward

This has been in the game forever. Epic 2.0s give 10AAs, and Epic 1.0 give 5AAs. Monster missions give 1 AA each in addition to any XP you earn, etc etc. The problem is most people actually don't quest in EverQuest. Except what you're required to do.

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Are Nag and Vox even raided anymore

Raided no, killed yes. No level limit/No recommended level stuff (i.e. CoF) go for big big money still.

jayrebb · 02-13-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AladainAF

This has been in the game forever. Epic 2.0s give 10AAs, and Epic 1.0 give 5AAs. Monster missions give 1 AA each in addition to any XP you earn, etc etc. The problem is most people actually don't quest in EverQuest. Except what you're required to do.

Its because the rewards have always been subpar, and thats an understatement. 10 AAs? 5 AAs? Wowie.

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jayrebb In a haze Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Special Affairs Posts: 2,296 -183 Internets	Those proposed quests jait would be cute and serve nostalgia purposes. Cost effective? Maybe a days work? Too bad Sony has the creative team of a bag of rocks. __________________ LOTR is a great analogy.

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Suineg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,646 -98 Internets	How about having an old school server wouldn't that be cool?!?!?!?!? Just had to put that in there since someone is going to. I have a friend grinding out AA's using a bot program. Gaining 30 a day solo at level 65 doing some kind of instance something I don't remember and it doesn't really matter. Point is AA's are lame and just hold people back from full potential in an artificial timesink. I would rather have more VT keys to farm then more AA's. __________________

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,189 -14 Internets	I was approaching 1k AA on my necro back in PoP and a little into GoD. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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02-12-2008, 07:19 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jait Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 3,645	Some of you guys are onto something. I agree there needs to be more in place than just a multiplier. Maybe an immersive quest with a pre-req of 0-10 total AA's that grants 25 AA's as a reward. A longer quest for players with 35-50 AA's that grants another 25. Etc... I don't really know where they're at now, but up to 100 total AA's seems about right for these quests. Moreover they could use the quests as an opportunity to get people up to date with the current Lore and status of the game. Going overboard a little, they could even restructure some of the Old World. Are Nag and Vox even raided anymore? I somehow doubt that there's enough 53- players to accomplish it, but I really dunno what the current rate of Mudflation is there now. Give Nag, Vox and perhaps Phinny some quests to hand out. Nag could whine about how no one ever fights him anymore and he's growing bitter for the attention. He'll grant you 25 AA's of his own personal power if you spread the rumor to certain NPC's across the expansions that he's a real threat again. Point is, there's still a lot of potential to EQ1, but they rarely execute anymore, and a multiplier (while awesome) isn't going to bring folks back like a real effort would. It's probably not cost effective /shrug

02-12-2008, 08:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
PosterOfStuff Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 300 -22 Internets	Everquest has a lot of potential. Everquest could be awesome. Those phrases I could well imagine have echoed inside everyones head that has played this game. Why the fuck they haven't release a suite of tools to enable players to make movies and shit, I just don't understand. Player + MakingMovie + YouTube = No Advertising Costs for SOE. I suppose Youtube, making movies from the game you are playing and the internet delivering to such a wide audience are not concepts SOE understand yet.

02-12-2008, 08:41 PM	#36 (permalink)
Locithon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 439 -16 Internets	Did they say when their doing this? I just hit 50 on FV and have 0 AA's... was just about to start getting them too.

02-12-2008, 09:04 PM	#37 (permalink)
Bristlebane Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,170	Fuck. I don't think I ever quite broke 100 AA's when I quit during PoP. God it was so boring to grind AA's.

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Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,797 +166 Internets	I exploited for all 230 of mine.

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Golbez Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Alberta Posts: 446	I exploited for 1100ish of mine Go go Kaladim bonechip exploit