[WoW] 2.4/Sunwell Info

[Sharmai]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

I would take the risk over having no option to group at all. Playing my rogue on Tanaris (I know, don't laugh) is a fucking joke. 10 hours straight in the queue for common dungeons like Hellfire Ramparts or Underbog and nobody autojoins. I am sure it's more active at 70 but there has to be some kind of bone thrown at people trying to level up post the "leading wave".

Yeah you can solo to 70, but not all of us enjoy that, and you aren't doing dungeons solo.

On Malganis I have done every single instance for a zone while I was questing in that zone. I would just put myself in LFG and forget about it while I quested and within 30 min - 1 hour I would get invited to an instance group. When I was leveling to 70 I use to go to groups just for the exp and rep when I didn't even have the quests for that instance yet....

i repeat every single group quest and instance I complete WHILE questing in that zone.. God I love big servers..

[Kolle]

I would combine servers and open some new ones at the same time. It would give two different kinds of people what they want and the new server might survive in the long haul. Quite a few have in the past even though many tanked. Merge the lowest 8-10 servers and open a new one. It would also help smooth over any talk of wow dying because their merging servers. I'm sure that's one of the reasons they haven't done it. They just need to make it clear that too many people are dogpiling because they got stuck with a bad server.

I think every server should be a Mal'ganis or Illidan.

[Sharmai]

Well you know whats funny about Mal'ganis? Every other free transfer includes mal'Ganis in the list of servers to move off of. I have been on Mal about a month and have seen 3 free transfers offered and the queue times actually INCREASED!!... Granted I'm lucky I have only ever experienced malganis queue times once since I always login early but thats what the forums say....

Blizzard doesn't want servers as big as mal'Ganis but players sure do..

[Kolle]

free xfer is like putting up a giant neon sign

although you might want to avoid warsong unless you know spanish

[The Hiram Key]

Originally Posted by Kolle

free xfer is like putting up a giant neon sign

although you might want to avoid warsong unless you know spanish

Fucking Warsong and Fucking Brazillians.

[Infirmary]

Brazillians speak Portugese :P

[Mist]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Fucking Warsong and Fucking Brazillians.

Agree, fuck Warsong AND the BRs. Gurubashi is almost as bad.

[The Hiram Key]

Originally Posted by Mist

Agree, fuck Warsong AND the BRs. Gurubashi is almost as bad.

If they weren't so rude, so obnoxious, and so blatently anti-american it wouldn't be all that bad. Holy fuck though, these guys are like feverish in their dislike of anything North American.

r u br ?

[Mist]

They're also fucking terrible at WoW.

[spronk]

I wonder if Blizzard views Zul'Aman as a success? On my server, one of the top 5 PVE servers in US, ZA activity is fairly low. The guilds that run through it easy don't bother very often, just for bear mount chances and such, and the guilds that view it as a stepping stone from Karazhan tend to wipe repeatedly on the 2nd-4th boss and give up after a while. I've been in a few pugs that have gotten to Zul'jin but its been a lot of wipes and most of the time people leave unsatisfied.

I really like the idea of ZA, another 10 man zone thats got few bosses and can be completed in one night, but I almost never want to run it anymore. Its way too stressful as a healer (plus I chug mana pots like a fiend), and the timed event stuff eventually just pisses me off. I guess I'm just being hypocritical, I really like the idea behind it and I'm sure once its tuned down a bit after Sunwell it'll be just right for my level of gear/play/skill.

[Derketo]

Originally Posted by spronk

I wonder if Blizzard views Zul'Aman as a success? On my server, one of the top 5 PVE servers in US, ZA activity is fairly low. The guilds that run through it easy don't bother very often, just for bear mount chances and such, and the guilds that view it as a stepping stone from Karazhan tend to wipe repeatedly on the 2nd-4th boss and give up after a while. I've been in a few pugs that have gotten to Zul'jin but its been a lot of wipes and most of the time people leave unsatisfied.

I really like the idea of ZA, another 10 man zone thats got few bosses and can be completed in one night, but I almost never want to run it anymore. Its way too stressful as a healer (plus I chug mana pots like a fiend), and the timed event stuff eventually just pisses me off. I guess I'm just being hypocritical, I really like the idea behind it and I'm sure once its tuned down a bit after Sunwell it'll be just right for my level of gear/play/skill.

We run it on our mains for trinket drops still. We also do a full alt run once a week or so, which always has a wipe or two, tends to complete 2-3 time trials and always kills zul'jin. I'm 100% positive if our kara/badge alts run it without much difficulty, then you should be able to as well.

[Fadaar]

It's a bit difficult for guilds just coming out of Kara in my opinion. Maybe after everyone gears up from the new badge stuff, but christ I would not want to try that place with only Kara geared dps/tanks.

Edit: This is coming from a guy with Illidan on farm. I fucking hate ZA because I use more mana potions in there than I do in all of BT/Hyjal combined (as a Paladin). Zul'jin phase 3/4 can eat a fat fucking dick.

[Antoine]

Of course it's difficult for guilds just coming out of kara. You aren't supposed to clear a whole new instance in a month when you're at that progression level! You have to farm the drops off that instance's earlier bosses and the previous instance so you get enough gear that you can complete the later bosses.

[darksensei]

Originally Posted by spronk

I wonder if Blizzard views Zul'Aman as a success? On my server, one of the top 5 PVE servers in US, ZA activity is fairly low. The guilds that run through it easy don't bother very often, just for bear mount chances and such, and the guilds that view it as a stepping stone from Karazhan tend to wipe repeatedly on the 2nd-4th boss and give up after a while. I've been in a few pugs that have gotten to Zul'jin but its been a lot of wipes and most of the time people leave unsatisfied.

I really like the idea of ZA, another 10 man zone thats got few bosses and can be completed in one night, but I almost never want to run it anymore. Its way too stressful as a healer (plus I chug mana pots like a fiend), and the timed event stuff eventually just pisses me off. I guess I'm just being hypocritical, I really like the idea behind it and I'm sure once its tuned down a bit after Sunwell it'll be just right for my level of gear/play/skill.

Za was a success except for two encounters, which include the tornado phase of ZJ. I've run with some top notch people and still struggled with it. The other encounter is the Eagle boss which imo is a pug killer. When I pug it I do Bear, Lynx, then ask what ppl want to do. You need some beefy healers for that fight.

[Rotanee]

Originally Posted by spronk

I wonder if Blizzard views Zul'Aman as a success? On my server, one of the top 5 PVE servers in US, ZA activity is fairly low. The guilds that run through it easy don't bother very often, just for bear mount chances and such, and the guilds that view it as a stepping stone from Karazhan tend to wipe repeatedly on the 2nd-4th boss and give up after a while. I've been in a few pugs that have gotten to Zul'jin but its been a lot of wipes and most of the time people leave unsatisfied.

I really like the idea of ZA, another 10 man zone thats got few bosses and can be completed in one night, but I almost never want to run it anymore. Its way too stressful as a healer (plus I chug mana pots like a fiend), and the timed event stuff eventually just pisses me off. I guess I'm just being hypocritical, I really like the idea behind it and I'm sure once its tuned down a bit after Sunwell it'll be just right for my level of gear/play/skill.

My guild has a about 15 people well geared up from Kara, current badges and honor rewards, etc., who can run ZA and down the first 4 bosses OK, and the timed event on the first two bosses. ZA is very much about group make up for us though, and people get left out because of that. We need to have the right amount of CC, DPS, and the proper variety of healing.

The problem I see right now for us--as I a not saying its a huge issue across servers--is ZA is not a place where we can gear up people, outside the better geared 15.

I only mention it because of the talk of the lower population servers, or servers that don't seem to have a lot of activity.

I am on Eitrigg, and no guild on the server has downed Illidan yet. There aren't many serious raiding guilds in 25 mans all together. It's more a casual, alt friendly type server it seems.

Recruiting decently geared people is pretty hard there. I like Kara, but it gets a bit frustrating for the same tanks and healers who have had all the gear they need from there for 4 months, to have to keep running it to gear up new people, or people who are a bit too casual and don't show up all the time.