WoW - Lag Fix - Page 4

Plorkyeran · 12-22-2007, 12:43 PM

Turning vsync off still doesn't result in more than 60 frames being displayed each second, so arguing about whether you can tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps seems a bit pointless.

Chaotic · 12-22-2007, 12:59 PM

Ok i have a question involving fps in WoW.

When I am in full screen mode, i get a pretty solid 70-90 FPS

When i am in windowed mode, it drops to 15-20 FPS, with no alterations besides that.

8800GTS 2.4 ghz dual core 1600x1200 reso with all shit turned on (including vsync but not triple buffering)

Whats the issue here?

Sean · 12-22-2007, 01:10 PM

Vista?

Chaotic · 12-22-2007, 01:10 PM

yea vista

Sean · 12-22-2007, 01:12 PM

That would be it. There's a problem with Vista + Windowed mode + WoW + Nvidia that's been there basically forever.

There's no solution, by the way.

Twobit Whore · 12-22-2007, 01:19 PM

That's odd. I can run windowed mode fine on Vista. Using 169.17 drivers on an 8800GT.

Sean · 12-22-2007, 01:20 PM

It doesn't happen with every config. The ones it does happen on though there doesn't seem to be any known solution. It's in the Nvidia bug documentation too.

Also that might be because you have an 8800 GT. I don't know if it can happen on those, I do know it happens on the GTS/GTX.

Yutnopash · 12-22-2007, 01:23 PM

I use WoW windowed mode like all the time, 32bit vista and an 8600gts on the laptop.... I normally pull around 30fps in crowded areas but tops out at 60

It has on occasion thought slowed way the fuck down and gone into the 15-20 range at random times but it's very rare.

Sean · 12-22-2007, 01:27 PM

Oh wait, I seem to have remembered it a bit incorrectly. Here's the notes:

Quote:

World of Warcraft – there is a 60% drop in performance when running the game in windowed mode with SLI or multi‐GPU mode enabled. [289427]

This is due to a limitation of the Windows Vista operating system and affects all multi‐GPU systems. NVIDIA is investigating a workaround for this performance problem.

It should be fine in windowed mode if you're running a single gpu card.

Chaotic · 12-22-2007, 01:43 PM

im not running SLI, does my computer somehow think i am?

Dynalisia · 12-22-2007, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plorkyeran

Turning vsync off still doesn't result in more than 60 frames being displayed each second, so arguing about whether you can tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps seems a bit pointless.

Is arguing for the sake of arguing not the basis of the internet though? :P

Sean · 12-22-2007, 02:08 PM

What drivers are you using, Chaotic? And I don't know why it would do that - it's possible the built in WoW profile for Nvidia is doing something really out of whack.

Jabberwhacky · 12-22-2007, 02:21 PM

So I've been a fan of VSync for a while now, but recently I download a UI compilation that seems to have the setting fucked up. It's always worked fine (no tearing) for the past 3 years or so, but now, whether or not I have it checked or unchecked, I get tearing. Is there any sort of master-command in some config or .wtf file that would override the ingame Option menu? It's really rather annoying.

Lefazz · 12-22-2007, 05:48 PM

I just built a Q6850 quad core system with two 8800GTs in SLI mode and WoW has a really bad framerate in parts of Shattrah. One particular location is at the flight master...if you pan the camera in such a way that you're looking at the floor but towards the outer rim of the city FPS will drop to around 18. It makes no sense since nothing is really there. I figured it was an Nvidia driver issue. Switching off SLI made no difference either.

And this is on a Vista Ultimate 64-bit system.

Interestingly enough, my other comp is an Athlon X2 6000+ with a Radeon x1950Pro and, performance-wise, there is barely any difference between the two (in WoW). Although the bad FPS drops aren't exhibited by the Radeon setup.

TKarrde · 12-22-2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyrdo

Yes they can, really. Stop perpetuating this myth!

No, they can't. Not in the way those who are perpetuating yet another myth ("FRAME RATE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 60 FPS AND 120 FPS IS PROFOUND") want us to believe. But there is no discernible difference when playing WoW.

And most of you people who go OH I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 200 FPS AND 60 FPS are on monitors with 60Hz refresh rate, making your argument retarded and yet another case of placebo influencing opinion.

12-22-2007, 12:59 PM	#47 (permalink)
Chaotic You are not damn right Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,470	Ok i have a question involving fps in WoW. When I am in full screen mode, i get a pretty solid 70-90 FPS When i am in windowed mode, it drops to 15-20 FPS, with no alterations besides that. 8800GTS 2.4 ghz dual core 1600x1200 reso with all shit turned on (including vsync but not triple buffering) Whats the issue here? __________________ Imscared - Orc Hunter - Rivendare (WoW) Rhllor - Orc Warlock - Rivendare (WoW) Marked - Stygian Herald of Xotli - Deathwhisper (AoC) Panic - Lesser Giant Dread Knight - Flamehammer (Vanguard) retired Arrogant - High Elf Sorcerer - Flamehammer (Vanguard) retired Visvires - Dark Elf Shadow Knight - Drinal (Everquest) retired

12-22-2007, 01:10 PM	#48 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,108 +17 Internets	Vista? __________________

12-22-2007, 01:10 PM	#49 (permalink)
Chaotic You are not damn right Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,470	yea vista __________________ Imscared - Orc Hunter - Rivendare (WoW) Rhllor - Orc Warlock - Rivendare (WoW) Marked - Stygian Herald of Xotli - Deathwhisper (AoC) Panic - Lesser Giant Dread Knight - Flamehammer (Vanguard) retired Arrogant - High Elf Sorcerer - Flamehammer (Vanguard) retired Visvires - Dark Elf Shadow Knight - Drinal (Everquest) retired

12-22-2007, 01:12 PM	#50 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,108 +17 Internets	That would be it. There's a problem with Vista + Windowed mode + WoW + Nvidia that's been there basically forever. There's no solution, by the way. __________________

12-22-2007, 01:19 PM	#51 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,826 -26 Internets	That's odd. I can run windowed mode fine on Vista. Using 169.17 drivers on an 8800GT. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

12-22-2007, 12:43 PM	#46 (permalink)
Plorkyeran Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 692 +1 Internets	Turning vsync off still doesn't result in more than 60 frames being displayed each second, so arguing about whether you can tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps seems a bit pointless.

12-22-2007, 01:20 PM	#52 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,108 +17 Internets	It doesn't happen with every config. The ones it does happen on though there doesn't seem to be any known solution. It's in the Nvidia bug documentation too. Also that might be because you have an 8800 GT. I don't know if it can happen on those, I do know it happens on the GTS/GTX. __________________

12-22-2007, 01:23 PM	#53 (permalink)
Yutnopash The Mexicant Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 759 -1 Internets	I use WoW windowed mode like all the time, 32bit vista and an 8600gts on the laptop.... I normally pull around 30fps in crowded areas but tops out at 60 It has on occasion thought slowed way the fuck down and gone into the 15-20 range at random times but it's very rare.

12-22-2007, 01:43 PM	#55 (permalink)
Chaotic You are not damn right Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,470	im not running SLI, does my computer somehow think i am? __________________ Imscared - Orc Hunter - Rivendare (WoW) Rhllor - Orc Warlock - Rivendare (WoW) Marked - Stygian Herald of Xotli - Deathwhisper (AoC) Panic - Lesser Giant Dread Knight - Flamehammer (Vanguard) retired Arrogant - High Elf Sorcerer - Flamehammer (Vanguard) retired Visvires - Dark Elf Shadow Knight - Drinal (Everquest) retired

12-22-2007, 02:08 PM	#57 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,108 +17 Internets	What drivers are you using, Chaotic? And I don't know why it would do that - it's possible the built in WoW profile for Nvidia is doing something really out of whack. __________________

12-22-2007, 02:21 PM	#58 (permalink)
Jabberwhacky Walker told me I have AIDS Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In da FACE!! (two times) Posts: 2,611	So I've been a fan of VSync for a while now, but recently I download a UI compilation that seems to have the setting fucked up. It's always worked fine (no tearing) for the past 3 years or so, but now, whether or not I have it checked or unchecked, I get tearing. Is there any sort of master-command in some config or .wtf file that would override the ingame Option menu? It's really rather annoying.

12-22-2007, 05:48 PM	#59 (permalink)
Lefazz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,111	I just built a Q6850 quad core system with two 8800GTs in SLI mode and WoW has a really bad framerate in parts of Shattrah. One particular location is at the flight master...if you pan the camera in such a way that you're looking at the floor but towards the outer rim of the city FPS will drop to around 18. It makes no sense since nothing is really there. I figured it was an Nvidia driver issue. Switching off SLI made no difference either. And this is on a Vista Ultimate 64-bit system. Interestingly enough, my other comp is an Athlon X2 6000+ with a Radeon x1950Pro and, performance-wise, there is barely any difference between the two (in WoW). Although the bad FPS drops aren't exhibited by the Radeon setup.

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