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Old 06-24-2008, 08:36 PM   #316 (permalink)
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That is as fake as you can get. They wont have a Starcraft MMO come out to compete with WoW for quite some time. WoW has quite a few years left in it, and Starcraft plays to almost exactly the same crowd - why would they compete against themselves (again).
Um, by the same token, Starcraft and Warcraft play to the exact same crowd, yet last I checked they're still two of the most successful video game franchises ever -- especially for the RTS genre. Oh and they came out 4 years apart (the first game for each franchise), with Warcraft II coming out only 3 years prior to Starcraft.

It's really a win-win situation regardless of which franchise they choose to go with for their next-gen MMO, because at this rate it looks like the only company that will produce an MMO to trump World of Warcraft will be Blizzard.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:37 PM   #317 (permalink)
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If you aren't whirlwinding/frost orbing entire fucking screens of enemies at once it isn't Diablo.
In warcraft you took an army of 50+ mobs against another army of 50+ mobs against each other and they managed to reduce that down to 25 man instances in WoW without problems.

Fuck man can you not imagine a 25 Man Heroic Cow Level?
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I'd elaborate on what I said since you obviously took it wrong, but I don't believe that you're stupid enough to not get what I was saying. The very next sentence qualifies the statement.

I see now. You're one of those people that looks for reasons to be offended. It must be frustrating to go through life like that.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:39 PM   #318 (permalink)
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So if I'm not commanding entire 200 unit armies it isnt Warcraft?

I believe people said WoW would be retarded because a designer mentioned fighting more than one mob at a time and EQ players laughed at him. Seems to have worked out for Blizzard. Who's to say what they can do with gameplay in a Diablo MMO?
Arguably they did rape the War right out of Warcraft, and turn it into a horde/alliance love fest. One could easily make the case that they ruined the franchise in order to make an MMO out of it, and exactly why I said I hope this is not a Diablo MMO.

I'm as big of a Diablo fan as anyone, I remember downloading the Diablo 1 beta test on my 28.8 modem. It took over 2 days and my entire month's worth of internet
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:40 PM   #319 (permalink)
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Arguable they did rape the War right out of Warcraft, and turn it into a horde/alliance love fest. One could easily make the case that they ruined the franchise in order to make an MMO out of it, and exactly why I said I hope this is not a Diablo MMO.

I'm as big of a Diablo fan as anyone, I remember downloading the Diablo 1 beta test on my 28.8 modem.
How is it raping the franchise though if 10 million+ people are enjoying it?
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:44 PM   #320 (permalink)
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Arguable they did rape the War right out of Warcraft, and turn it into a horde/alliance love fest. One could easily make the case that they ruined the franchise in order to make an MMO out of it, and exactly why I said I hope this is not a Diablo MMO.

I'm as big of a Diablo fan as anyone, I remember downloading the Diablo 1 beta test on my 28.8 modem.

You're using words like "ruined" as if it's universal. Ruined how? Because it's got 10m players and a huge market share? If so, you're like the emo-kid who thinks his band sold out in 1985 when other people started listening to them. WoW is more popular today than ever before. And the story has been greatly expanded upon as a MMO, giving players the almost literal ability to live there. MMO's are perhaps the greatest template upon which to tell a story.

If that's ruined, I'm scared to ask how they could've made it better in your eyes.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:44 PM   #321 (permalink)
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World of Diablo and Diablo 1/2 shouldn't really be comparable anyway. Seriously one is designed with the intention of being an RTS and another is designed with the intention of being an MMO. In one you control minions, in the other you are the minion. All they should take from diablo is the lore, background, story, basic character templates. But the mechanics should be tweaked to fit the different environment/game.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:47 PM   #322 (permalink)
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Since D2 and D2:LOD were both released on June 29th, I say D3 is all finished and there will be a digital download available for D3 on June 29th!
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:49 PM   #323 (permalink)
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Since D2 and D2:LOD were both released on June 29th, I say D3 is all finished and there will be a digital download available for D3 on June 29th, 2011!
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You're using words like "ruined" as if it's universal. Ruined how? Because it's got 10m players and a huge market share? If so, you're like the emo-kid who thinks his band sold out in 1985 when other people started listening to them. WoW is more popular today than ever before. And the story has been greatly expanded upon as a MMO, giving players the almost literal ability to live there. MMO's are perhaps the greatest template upon which to tell a story.

If that's ruined, I'm scared to ask how they could've made it better in your eyes.
So what you both want is a Diablo game that plays nothing like Diablo?
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:52 PM   #325 (permalink)
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Mist is trolling you guys pretty hard, grats on biting it.
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Since D2 and D2:LOD were both released on June 29th, I say D3 is all finished and there will be a digital download available for D3 on June 29th!


Although the collective nerd-rage when it turns out to be WotLK will be new epic proportions, I almost hope it's Starcraft Ghost. That might even cause a few folks after all the build-up to go, "Oh. Meh."


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Mist is trolling you guys pretty hard, grats on biting it.
Yeah, I'm starting to wonder how Mist got so far off their own original point
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:54 PM   #327 (permalink)
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I'm not trolling. I just think what made the Diablo games Diablo games is the gameplay, not all the rest of the horsehit. Diablo was an awesome game because you had a town here with a few vital NPCs, and then vast fields of walking treasure chests to slaughter right outside the gate, loot and coin flying everywhere. Any game that doesn't have that isn't worthy of being called Diablo.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:54 PM   #328 (permalink)
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Mist is trolling you guys pretty hard, grats on biting it.
Pretty shitty troll if that's the case. Everything these days is trolling anyways.
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Although the collective nerd-rage when it turns out to be WotLK will be new epic proportions, I almost hope it's Starcraft Ghost. That might even cause a few folks after all the build-up to go, "Oh. Meh."
It's actually entirely possible it'll be StarCraft: Ghost since the game is "on ice," so to speak. It's kind of disgusting how many possible things it could be -- even with the second teaser today.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:54 PM   #330 (permalink)
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So what you both want is a Diablo game that plays nothing like Diablo?
Because RPGs play the same as RTS.

Besides, it's doubtful they'd make world of diablo just because they stole most of the class info for WoW.
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