[WAR]State of the Game - November 2007 - Page 3

Bongk · 11-02-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Moontayle

I think the most successful (as in, still going and has a decent amount of subscriptions) MMO released since WoW dropped in 2004, is DDO.

LOTRO

edit: bah, 2bit beat me

Moontayle · 11-02-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

LotRO disagrees.

Hah, I bet it would at that. That'll teach me not to post on 4 broken hours of sleep.

Rhaze · 11-02-2007, 10:14 AM

Is LOTR "actually" a good game or is it another game that people can play as elves that is like wow but isn't wow?

People are so desperate to feed their mmo needs that they will try ANY game once.

I'm not dissing on WoW totally, it has good points, but it hasn't brought any good.

Twobit Whore · 11-02-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhaze

I'm not dissing on WoW totally, it has good points, but it hasn't brought any good.

You just have some deep-seeded WoW hatred. In reality WoW has brought more good to the genre than any other MMOs, probably combined.

Bongk · 11-02-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhaze

Is LOTR "actually" a good game or is it another game that people can play as elves that is like wow but isn't wow?

People are so desperate to feed their mmo needs that they will try ANY game once.

so please enlighten us to what the "good" MMOG's are.

Man0warr · 11-02-2007, 10:33 AM

EQ2, FFXI, WoW, EvE, LOTRO

Kodylan · 11-02-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhaze

I'm not dissing on WoW totally, it has good points, but it hasn't brought any good.

I'm not really sure I understand this comment at all. How does it have good points, yet it hasn't brought anything good to the genre?

Samflam · 11-02-2007, 10:48 AM

I think he's talking about how awesome Vanguard is.

Moontayle · 11-02-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Samflam

I think he's talking about how awesome Vanguard is.

And with warped logic you can pinpoint its failure on WoW. Without WoW, Brad wouldn't have had anything for Vanguard *not* to be.

Elidrin · 11-02-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

LotRO disagrees.

I haven't kept up with LotRO, but this response surprises me. Is the game doing that well?

Twobit Whore · 11-02-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Elidrin

I haven't kept up with LotRO, but this response surprises me. Is the game doing that well?

It's the most 'successful' MMO since the launch of WoW.

They have like 20 servers total in US and Europe and I think they even added at least one for one of the regions.

I'd say off the top of my head it has more subs now than either EQ or EQ2.

Bongk · 11-02-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Moontayle

And with warped logic you can pinpoint its failure on WoW. Without WoW, Brad wouldn't have had anything for Vanguard *not* to be.

*bites his tongue*

I'm Rich Bitch · 11-02-2007, 11:22 AM

This clip seems to take a stab at VG not being polished and not retaining subs. VG could have indeed been the reason for WARs delay:

Digo · 11-02-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

LotRO disagrees.

290k as of Aug 07, according to MMOGData.VOIG.com | Online Data About Online Games

Not too shabby for a WoW clone.

Kheldin · 11-02-2007, 11:41 AM

It's naive to go into the genre without learning from the successes and failures that WoW has had over the years.

The next question comes from what sort of balance do you strike between emulation and evolution/innovation when it comes to MMO's post-WoW. Hopefully WAR chooses wisely, and creates a warhammer game, with the useability of WoW, rather than just a WAR-colored WoW.

I don't want another WoW; I want a new game that learned from WoW. Cuz there are some HUGE issues with WoW right now, and failure to learn from those issues is just guaranteed floundering in the MMO-gamespace.

11-02-2007, 10:33 AM	#36 (permalink)
Man0warr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,601	EQ2, FFXI, WoW, EvE, LOTRO __________________ Manowarr - Ranger - Dominus Letum

11-02-2007, 10:48 AM	#38 (permalink)
Samflam That must be very tiring Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toe-rawn-toe Posts: 1,349	I think he's talking about how awesome Vanguard is. __________________ Ridiculous

11-02-2007, 11:41 AM	#45 (permalink)
Kheldin The Brewmaster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 488 +0 Internets	It's naive to go into the genre without learning from the successes and failures that WoW has had over the years. The next question comes from what sort of balance do you strike between emulation and evolution/innovation when it comes to MMO's post-WoW. Hopefully WAR chooses wisely, and creates a warhammer game, with the useability of WoW, rather than just a WAR-colored WoW. I don't want another WoW; I want a new game that learned from WoW. Cuz there are some HUGE issues with WoW right now, and failure to learn from those issues is just guaranteed floundering in the MMO-gamespace. Last edited by Kheldin; 11-02-2007 at 11:45 AM..

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11-02-2007, 10:14 AM	#33 (permalink)
Rhaze Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,003 -17 Internets	Is LOTR "actually" a good game or is it another game that people can play as elves that is like wow but isn't wow? People are so desperate to feed their mmo needs that they will try ANY game once. I'm not dissing on WoW totally, it has good points, but it hasn't brought any good.

11-02-2007, 11:22 AM	#43 (permalink)
I'm Rich Bitch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,064 -111 Internets	This clip seems to take a stab at VG not being polished and not retaining subs. VG could have indeed been the reason for WARs delay: