Vanguard Development Moves to the San Diego Studio - Page 5

Bongk · 10-16-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

lol @ the negativity here. It's almost a year after release. VG is actually a pretty good game now. You might as well hate on EQ2 while you're at it. I hear it still sucks too.

I hear horizons kicks ass now!!

Maybe you should check it out too. Hell lets start a petition to get ASherons Call 2 back.

Vatoreus · 10-16-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

lol @ the negativity here. It's almost a year after release. VG is actually a pretty good game now. You might as well hate on EQ2 while you're at it. I hear it still sucks too.

Um, I'm pretty certain that the level of quality that EQ2 is at is hugely above the level of quality of where VG is currently at.

Twobit Whore · 10-16-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

lol @ the negativity here. It's almost a year after release. VG is actually a pretty good game now. You might as well hate on EQ2 while you're at it. I hear it still sucks too.

LOL @ comparing VG to EQ2. Yeah VG is so good they just shut down the office and fired half the staff! Again! ROCK ON!

Ashes Emberblade · 10-16-2007, 01:32 PM

You can get off your high horses. VG sucked at release. We get it. Everyone gets it. There's noone here who doesn't get it.

It took a year to turn EQ2 around.

It's been a year and VG has turned the corner.

Deal.

Draegan · 10-16-2007, 01:33 PM

I don't think VG will ever be a viable game with 20 something people working on it.

Bongk · 10-16-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

You can get off your high horses. VG sucked at release. We get it. Everyone gets it. There's noone here who doesn't get it.

It took a year to turn EQ2 around.

It's been a year and VG has turned the corner.

Deal.

VG hasn't turned shit. I have tried, I know, don't crap me.

Not saying at some point it can't be good, but it is still dogshit.

If i can find 5 dumbasses to say Horizons is a good game, will that make it a so?

Twobit Whore · 10-16-2007, 01:35 PM

VG has turned the corner is the new this could turn it around for Vanguard.

Bongk · 10-16-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

VG has turned the corner is the new this could turn it around for Vanguard.

the only corner VG has turned is the one that leads to the garbage dump.

Gecko · 10-16-2007, 01:45 PM

I'm still completely confused as to why SOE would buy this game. I've tried it twice, at release and again over the summer and it really is so far from being a finished, polished product it blows me away Sigil spent 40 million or so developing it.

I think they should assimilate the good portions into EQ2/EQ and just dump the game. I have yet to talk to almost anyone who cares for it, including old time EQ hardcore people from the day.

Twobit Whore · 10-16-2007, 01:54 PM

I don't think there are any portions good enough to bother with. It's not like you can just transplant the engine (even if you were psycho and wanted to do that). Diplomacy wouldn't work and the new SOE card game takes care of that anyway. EQ2 tried that grindy ass crafting and already streamlined it as is. Not sure what there is in Vanguard that someone would want to rip out that they couldn't do better from scratch.

Mithrull · 10-16-2007, 02:11 PM

Well whatever their plans, the first phase of GU 3 seems to be generally positive. Lots of people, including myself, noticing FPS boosts; some as high as 20-30 fps. My guess is if they have a skeleton crew on VG now they will be doing two things: working on that trial island and fixing the occasional bug. Don't look for any real content additions until the game can show some semblance of growth

Laerazi · 10-16-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

I don't think there are any portions good enough to bother with. It's not like you can just transplant the engine (even if you were psycho and wanted to do that). Diplomacy wouldn't work and the new SOE card game takes care of that anyway. EQ2 tried that grindy ass crafting and already streamlined it as is. Not sure what there is in Vanguard that someone would want to rip out that they couldn't do better from scratch.

The art assets are probably where most of the money was spent. Would be interesting if they ported some of that over to EQ2.

Ravensign · 10-16-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

VG has turned the corner is the new this could turn it around for Vanguard.

I guess all the haters have to give it up now, on account of the corner turning.

LexarkT11 · 10-16-2007, 02:21 PM

been playing since launch pretty much.

today patch boosted my performance a ton, I didnt crash once today in about 5hrs of play, when i would typically crash 5 times or so.

im happy with the progress so far

Digits · 10-16-2007, 02:21 PM

I always thought it was for access to the music creation program that Nino used. From interviews years back I remember it sounding completely amazing, and his efforts in Vanguard show the extent of what could be done with it. I have no idea if they even kept the program though, but that and art concepts and the abysmal chance at a successful game probably drove SOE to buy it. Plus it let SOE tack on another 5 dollars to the all access pack, and I highly doubt SOE thought it would fail as much as it did.

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,158 -14 Internets	I don't think there are any portions good enough to bother with. It's not like you can just transplant the engine (even if you were psycho and wanted to do that). Diplomacy wouldn't work and the new SOE card game takes care of that anyway. EQ2 tried that grindy ass crafting and already streamlined it as is. Not sure what there is in Vanguard that someone would want to rip out that they couldn't do better from scratch. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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Digits The good news is that you're still alive. The bad news is that that's the good news. Also, you have no legs. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 'Merica, land of the free. Posts: 1,268 +1 Internets	I always thought it was for access to the music creation program that Nino used. From interviews years back I remember it sounding completely amazing, and his efforts in Vanguard show the extent of what could be done with it. I have no idea if they even kept the program though, but that and art concepts and the abysmal chance at a successful game probably drove SOE to buy it. Plus it let SOE tack on another 5 dollars to the all access pack, and I highly doubt SOE thought it would fail as much as it did. __________________ Hatcher No one cares where

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10-16-2007, 01:32 PM	#64 (permalink)
Ashes Emberblade I Do It For The Negs Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NOLA Posts: 1,809 -83 Internets	You can get off your high horses. VG sucked at release. We get it. Everyone gets it. There's noone here who doesn't get it. It took a year to turn EQ2 around. It's been a year and VG has turned the corner. Deal.

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Draegan ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇̊̋̌̍̎ ̏ Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,631 -20 Internets	I don't think VG will ever be a viable game with 20 something people working on it.

10-16-2007, 01:45 PM	#69 (permalink)
Gecko Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cleveland Posts: 625	I'm still completely confused as to why SOE would buy this game. I've tried it twice, at release and again over the summer and it really is so far from being a finished, polished product it blows me away Sigil spent 40 million or so developing it. I think they should assimilate the good portions into EQ2/EQ and just dump the game. I have yet to talk to almost anyone who cares for it, including old time EQ hardcore people from the day.

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Mithrull Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 253 -1 Internets	Well whatever their plans, the first phase of GU 3 seems to be generally positive. Lots of people, including myself, noticing FPS boosts; some as high as 20-30 fps. My guess is if they have a skeleton crew on VG now they will be doing two things: working on that trial island and fixing the occasional bug. Don't look for any real content additions until the game can show some semblance of growth

10-16-2007, 02:21 PM	#74 (permalink)
LexarkT11 Forever the Sickest Kid Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Toledo/Mentor, Ohio Posts: 792 -19 Internets	been playing since launch pretty much. today patch boosted my performance a ton, I didnt crash once today in about 5hrs of play, when i would typically crash 5 times or so. im happy with the progress so far