[WoW] 2.3 Levelling changes - some details released - Page 5

Tirinal · 10-08-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Campa

I couldn't disagree with that more. 50-60* took me ~60% the time it took me to do 35-45 did simple because I had so many zones to work with and unlike a lot of the quests in the 35-45 range I didn't have to run all over the freaking world for them.

Shrug. 35-45 might be worse strictly from a design perspective, but it's compensated for by being so quick to level through. Chaining kill quests and then just grinding is always only marginally worse than flushing out all the quests anyway, and because you need so little to level it goes by somewhat fast. 50-58 you need to flush quests though because anything else makes your eyes bleed.

I think we should just agree Azeroth is equal-opportunity shitty.

Campa · 10-08-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tirinal

Shrug. 35-45 might be worse strictly from a design perspective, but it's compensated for by being so quick to level through. Chaining kill quests and then just grinding is always only marginally worse than flushing out all the quests anyway, and because you need so little to level it goes by somewhat fast. 50-58 you need to flush quests though because anything else makes your eyes bleed.

I think we should just agree Azeroth is equal-opportunity shitty.

/signed

Which is why I'm SOOOOO happy the Death Knights probably won't start any lower than 58. Now if I could just do a quest to start any char at 58....

TheYanger · 10-08-2007, 03:04 PM

I don't understand the whining about Grinding, especially from Sithro who isn't just skipping quests unless he's a complete fool (At least they're all new to him).
My warrior is 66 now, and never once did he need to grind, you can easily hit 60 and have tons and tons of quests left to do still. 40-50 is the pits imo, but 30-40 is insanely easy (And anyone that thinks STV sucks is just wrong! It's no longer fun to me but it's incredibly efficient and fast regardless). 50-60 are probably the easiest levels in the game aside from 1-20, there are stupid amounts of quests to do if you look in the right spots (They added 2 years worth of content right at 55-60, look a little harder).
Is it really that bad to 'only' have 4 zones to go to? Good lord. You shouldn't be able to do 10 levels in one zone on just quests, there'd be like 10 zones in the game if that were the case. Sithro - Don't listen to the whiners and start trying to adopt arguments that are frankly too mature for your level of play. Everyone else whines because they hate re-doing zones on alts (I agree with this sentiment), but if you've never done them at all it's plenty easy to find junk to do.
30-40 I highly recommend doing the racetrack in thousand needles before hitting STV and you can get enough of a buffer to pick and choose quests, but if you haven't done em yet you won't know which ones are worth doing or not anyway so just do all of them (Most quests are at least 'fun' the first time, except the occasional collection quest).

xmod2 · 10-08-2007, 03:08 PM

If anything, my problem was my quest journal could only hold 25 quests and I was unable to complete them fast enough before they would grey out.

Also, STV is the biggest hell-hole on a PVP server, but it builds character.

Sithro · 10-08-2007, 03:10 PM

Right now I'm a bit pissed because I can't figure out for the life of me how to re-start my damn Fel Hunter quest. I failed it once, abandoned it, now it seems I can't get it again.

Fucking hell.

Cuppycake · 10-08-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithro

Not to mention I'm tired of grinding. The 30s in EverQuest weren't even this fucking retarded.

Wait, what?

Maybe you want to turn back now....

TheCutlery · 10-08-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuppycake

Wait, what?

Maybe you want to turn back now....

No fucking kidding.

Sithro, I'mi gonna say this for your own good. You might not want to hear it, but trust me, it's better for you.

You're a pussy bitch. You can't even play LOL EZMODE WoW. Go ahead and start collecting coins or stamps or something more your speed.

Twobit Whore · 10-08-2007, 03:32 PM

I could understand someone griping on their 3rd or 10th character, but the first? The first character in WoW is so much better than anything else. Maybe it was different early on, when it was populated and grouping was a breeze when necessary.. but I never thought it sucked until like my 4th time through it.

Sithro · 10-08-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCutlery

No fucking kidding.

Sithro, I'mi gonna say this for your own good. You might not want to hear it, but trust me, it's better for you.

You're a pussy bitch. You can't even play LOL EZMODE WoW. Go ahead and start collecting coins or stamps or something more your speed.

The fuck? I got max level in EverQuest with my God damned epic weapon. I still don't remember it being this big of a pain in the ass to get through the 30s. Especially the parts where I'm required to walk to an enemy continent to do a quest for my damn pet.

Getting ganked in STV isn't LOL EZMODE, it's a pain in the ass. Especially when you try to go through Booty Bay and some faggot ass Rogue stealths right there just to shove a dagger up your ass. Then you try to go through Darkshire and another random tard one shots you.

Add on top of this the fact that I'm trying to restart a failed quest, but it seems I can't do it now. Either I'm missing something, or I permanently lost a chance at that retarded Warrior pet.

Twobit Whore · 10-08-2007, 03:36 PM

You chose PvP. You had to know damn well what you were getting into. PvP servers aren't just 'gank you when you are ready', it's 'gank you any time the opporutniy arises' and lots of bored 70s on an old server = lots of opportunities. Reroll PvE. Pick a high-pop one and go.

Zerai · 10-08-2007, 03:37 PM

I remember the hours killing clockworks in my 30s. And you think WoW is hard? what?

Sithro · 10-08-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

You chose PvP. You had to know damn well what you were getting into. PvP servers aren't just 'gank you when you are ready', it's 'gank you any time the opporutniy arises' and lots of bored 70s on an old server = lots of opportunities. Reroll PvE. Pick a high-pop one and go.

I didn't think they'd be able to gank people over 30 levels under them. The only reason I came to this server is because a buddy of mine plays there.

Flesseck · 10-08-2007, 03:47 PM

That is the life on a PvP server - the constant danger. Every time you gotta watch your back. When I was leveling my Draenei right when I hit my early 30s, I got ganked so often in STV that I said fuck it after a while and leveled in Desolace, which I absolutely despise.

Or another option would be to just find a group of buddies or other people around your level and do shit together. WoW is pretty easy.

Quineloe · 10-08-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Pick a high-pop one and go.

Best advice in the thread

If the server select says "recommended", it means "it's recommended to stay the fuck away from this server"

Phoenix · 10-08-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithro

The fuck? I got max level in EverQuest with my God damned epic weapon. I still don't remember it being this big of a pain in the ass to get through the 30s. Especially the parts where I'm required to walk to an enemy continent to do a quest for my damn pet.

Getting ganked in STV isn't LOL EZMODE, it's a pain in the ass. Especially when you try to go through Booty Bay and some faggot ass Rogue stealths right there just to shove a dagger up your ass. Then you try to go through Darkshire and another random tard one shots you.

Add on top of this the fact that I'm trying to restart a failed quest, but it seems I can't do it now. Either I'm missing something, or I permanently lost a chance at that retarded Warrior pet.

Wow, you seriously fucking suck. I started the day the game was released on a pvp server where Horde out numbered Alliance, and I had no problem what so ever leving at all.

Anyways, I have a solution to your problem;

10-08-2007, 03:32 PM	#68 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,465 -11 Internets	I could understand someone griping on their 3rd or 10th character, but the first? The first character in WoW is so much better than anything else. Maybe it was different early on, when it was populated and grouping was a breeze when necessary.. but I never thought it sucked until like my 4th time through it. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

10-08-2007, 03:36 PM	#70 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,465 -11 Internets	You chose PvP. You had to know damn well what you were getting into. PvP servers aren't just 'gank you when you are ready', it's 'gank you any time the opporutniy arises' and lots of bored 70s on an old server = lots of opportunities. Reroll PvE. Pick a high-pop one and go. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

10-08-2007, 03:47 PM	#73 (permalink)
Flesseck Greek Freak Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 716 -1 Internets	That is the life on a PvP server - the constant danger. Every time you gotta watch your back. When I was leveling my Draenei right when I hit my early 30s, I got ganked so often in STV that I said fuck it after a while and leveled in Desolace, which I absolutely despise. Or another option would be to just find a group of buddies or other people around your level and do shit together. WoW is pretty easy. __________________ WoW - Flesseck - L70 Draenei Shaman, Bloodscalp Xbox Live Gamertag - Flesseck214

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10-08-2007, 03:04 PM	#63 (permalink)
TheYanger Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 200 +2 Internets	I don't understand the whining about Grinding, especially from Sithro who isn't just skipping quests unless he's a complete fool (At least they're all new to him). My warrior is 66 now, and never once did he need to grind, you can easily hit 60 and have tons and tons of quests left to do still. 40-50 is the pits imo, but 30-40 is insanely easy (And anyone that thinks STV sucks is just wrong! It's no longer fun to me but it's incredibly efficient and fast regardless). 50-60 are probably the easiest levels in the game aside from 1-20, there are stupid amounts of quests to do if you look in the right spots (They added 2 years worth of content right at 55-60, look a little harder). Is it really that bad to 'only' have 4 zones to go to? Good lord. You shouldn't be able to do 10 levels in one zone on just quests, there'd be like 10 zones in the game if that were the case. Sithro - Don't listen to the whiners and start trying to adopt arguments that are frankly too mature for your level of play. Everyone else whines because they hate re-doing zones on alts (I agree with this sentiment), but if you've never done them at all it's plenty easy to find junk to do. 30-40 I highly recommend doing the racetrack in thousand needles before hitting STV and you can get enough of a buffer to pick and choose quests, but if you haven't done em yet you won't know which ones are worth doing or not anyway so just do all of them (Most quests are at least 'fun' the first time, except the occasional collection quest).

10-08-2007, 03:08 PM	#64 (permalink)
xmod2 The Orange Bard Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 336 +0 Internets	If anything, my problem was my quest journal could only hold 25 quests and I was unable to complete them fast enough before they would grey out. Also, STV is the biggest hell-hole on a PVP server, but it builds character.

10-08-2007, 03:37 PM	#71 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 2,231 -9 Internets	I remember the hours killing clockworks in my 30s. And you think WoW is hard? what?