Areae's Metaplace announced

[Draegan]

Because you havn't figured it out yet?

[Duppin]

Seriously? You're putting this out there before you've established some very basic legal shit to the point where you can disclose it?

[Cuppycake]

Originally Posted by Duppin

Seriously? You're putting this out there before you've established some very basic legal shit to the point where you can disclose it?

Okay, let me try again.

It has nothing to do with "still establishing" or "figuring things out" and everything to do with legal issues that are discussed between us and our lawyers. We have released a very SMALL amount of information on Metaplace so far, and will be announcing more as the weeks go on.

I assure you, we've been working with lawyers since the beginning of Areae's inception and we're more than aware and prepared for all the legal ramifications and situations. There is a lot of information that we just can't disclose (mostly for legal reasons, ironically...) - sorry to disappoint you.

[Duppin]

How do you expect people to get interested in your project when you're not willing to tell them anything about how it is actually going to work from probably the most important aspect of the whole thing?

Your lawyers suck if they let you say anything at all before you could answer people's questions about their rights to the IP they create using your tools.

[copernic]

You people are mean. When has legal stuff ever come first? The game architecture and strategy are logically the first to roll out; the mechanics and legal framework comes later.

Legal work isn't to be rushed, and if they're taking it seriously, it'll be announced as its own component rather then pushed in a "lol, here's the EULA" format. Especially because the legal component is inseparable here from the economic design. Mismanaged expectations would be hugely destructive for something like this; possibly even damaging legally.

[Mist]

F13 is already calling this Meatplace, lol.

[Duppin]

Originally Posted by copernic

You people are mean. When has legal stuff ever come first? The game architecture and strategy are logically the first to roll out; the mechanics and legal framework comes later.

Because no one should put one iota of headspace into this at all until they've got legal assurances that it isn't just a vehicle to co-opt the intellectual property of others?

Note I said LEGAL assurances, not the assurances of a messageboard person with a dancing pony as their avatar.

[Twobit Whore]

Well, I don't see any reason why people can't start brainstorming. Just because you come up with some ideas doesn't mean you are forced to use Meatplace to implement them. I'd imagine most people have ideas already, even prior to this announcement. If things pan out well, they have a tool that may be useful.

[Lord Thanos]

Signed up for Alpha, am looking forward to see what can be made without any programming skills, cause I have none!

[Elidroth Renato]

Oh well.. didn't get an app sent in time I guess..

Color me very interested though..

[Inconsiderable]

Originally Posted by Lord Thanos

Signed up for Alpha, am looking forward to see what can be made without any programming skills, cause I have none!

If they take GameMaker or the famous WC3-Editor as role model... = alot!

[Tyen]

Originally Posted by copernic

You people are mean. When has legal stuff ever come first? The game architecture and strategy are logically the first to roll out; the mechanics and legal framework comes later.

Legal work isn't to be rushed, and if they're taking it seriously, it'll be announced as its own component rather then pushed in a "lol, here's the EULA" format. Especially because the legal component is inseparable here from the economic design. Mismanaged expectations would be hugely destructive for something like this; possibly even damaging legally.

When any company gets to the point where they are in alpha or beta in their project legality framework should be in place. It is a 100% must.

Hell, We had to get legal stuff worked out with uberguilds radio before we announced anything about it.

Even Kaos War had legal framework setup well before their demo.

I'm not taking part in any bashing here but putting it into perspective, once your project even starts development you have to get the legal side finished WELL before it is even announced.

[Duppin]

Originally Posted by Tyen

When any company gets to the point where they are in alpha or beta in their project legality framework should be in place. It is a 100% must.

Hell, We had to get legal stuff worked out with uberguilds radio before we announced anything about it.

Even Kaos War had legal framework setup well before their demo.

I'm not taking part in any bashing here but putting it into perspective, once your project even starts development you have to get the legal side finished WELL before it is even announced.

Pretty much, yeah. Either the legal shit hasn't been figured out, despite Cuppy's protestations to the contrary, or there's something in there that they don't want people to see until they've gotten interest going for their project.

There's no non-shady reason to not disclose the IP structure, at least, at this point.

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

I love Cuppy to death, but this is a lot of hype, very early. It's almost McQuaidian in execution!

[Plorkyeran]

Originally Posted by Duppin

Because no one should put one iota of headspace into this at all until they've got legal assurances that it isn't just a vehicle to co-opt the intellectual property of others?

Note I said LEGAL assurances, not the assurances of a messageboard person with a dancing pony as their avatar.

Or until there's the slightest assurance that it isn't a complete piece of crap technologically, which also hasn't happened yet. There's plenty of things they need to iron out other than the legal issues, which really isn't surprising for something that they first announced all of a week ago.