Hellgate London Beta - Sept 17 - Page 91

Frax · 11-27-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuriin

No, it wasn't. The only thing that sucked when WoW got released was the population and server lag. If server lag didn't affect the players, then there wouldn't have been several free months of subscription handed out in the first few days of going live.

The biggest things I remember from WoW launch:
1) Their item database being swamped from the character screen pulling up your loot to display your character, so they switched to naked characters for a while
2) Awful, awful latency issues.

That said, I was still level 12 in about 2.5 hrs of play!

Indiana · 11-27-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Jacq

They just announced that the 'disappearing group member bug' is history this week with a new patch.

Lots of nerd rage in this thread against a simple, casual, fun, shoot 'em up...

Say... Can anyone spot what's wrong with this sentence?:

"I just finished the game for the second time on nightmare and can only say that it is the most worthless piece of shit in the history of pieces of shit"

Stop making it sound like a fucking grad students flash production. This was a tripple A title, produced by people with a great pedigree and deliberatly hyped above and beyond what was delivered.

What you call "nerd rage" is fueled by a complete and utter disregard for their customers. But that said, I'm happy the ever diminishing crowd of Fanboys are still keeping their faith. As long as you keep paying, the game might one day evolve to something, that we non-masochists might find enjoyable.

Ronne · 11-27-2007, 11:19 AM

So, can you like, actually equip items from nightmare yet, or are the stat requirements still higher than possible to achieve?

Horse · 11-27-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Jacq

They just announced that the 'disappearing group member bug' is history this week with a new patch.

Lots of nerd rage in this thread against a simple, casual, fun, shoot 'em up...

Say... Can anyone spot what's wrong with this sentence?:

"I just finished the game for the second time on nightmare and can only say that it is the most worthless piece of shit in the history of pieces of shit"

What's wrong with that sentence is the "nightmare is finishable" part.

Elsebet · 11-27-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chackle

I've only done this with one other party member, but we avoid that bug by me zoning into the instance and then him opening up a party portal to join me, works every time.

Oh that usually works for us too. Just plain zoning out and zoning back in also works. Then again, sometimes I rezone and I can see him, but he can't see me then. :P It's not game breaking, just annoying and worse with each additional party member added.

Mad Jacq · 11-28-2007, 05:46 AM

I haven't played a single MMO (including your precious WoW) that didn't have some issues within the first few months of release.

Does it suck? Yes. Is it new? Not so much. They're patching the game just like everyone else does... /shrug

If you have a problem with the ass state that games are being released in, take it up with the industry itself. You will wear yourself out jumping on every single developer, of every single game, individually.

Kuriin · 11-28-2007, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frax

The biggest things I remember from WoW launch:
1) Their item database being swamped from the character screen pulling up your loot to display your character, so they switched to naked characters for a while
2) Awful, awful latency issues.

That said, I was still level 12 in about 2.5 hrs of play!

Which I will reiterate: it was lag and nothing really more. I began on release with one of the most populated servers (KilJaeden) and getting loot from monsters and being randomly disconnected because there were just too many people was the only "real" bug that I saw.

leane · 11-28-2007, 08:24 AM

People are whining so much because they are still playing and enjoying the game despite their issues.

Everybody here did the exact same thing in EQ, complained about how bad it was but kept on playing despite the bugs and problems.

Flight · 11-28-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by leane

People are whining so much because they are still playing and enjoying the game despite their issues..

... is the wrong answer.

Dis · 11-28-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by leane

People are whining so much because they are still playing and enjoying the game despite their issues.

Everybody here did the exact same thing in EQ, complained about how bad it was but kept on playing despite the bugs and problems.

Uh no, friends of mine who have bought, and myself have completely shelved the game. We are of the mind, wait 6 months and see. If it is still a pile, uninstall and throw game away.

Horse · 11-28-2007, 10:14 AM

Seriously, calm down guys, we'll get too tired saying every individual game we play is shit when it is shit.

Besides... we're still playing it, so we must enjoy it, as the only way you can say something sucks to the point of not playing it is to keep playing it.

Remember - every game is actually really fucking horrible and then requires patching to fix it.

Indiana · 11-28-2007, 11:20 AM

yes srsly, it's just a game lol. Get a life and stop complaining about every little thing. if you don like it dont buy it amirite? lol

Dyscord · 11-28-2007, 11:37 AM

If you don't have anything nice to say...

post it all over a message board.

They patched in lower stat feeds, but to be honest, I'm not noticing, since its not retroactive. Only new items are getting lower feeds. And since you know... I'd actually have to play to regear... it doesn't affect me at all.

Flight · 12-06-2007, 07:01 AM

Patch 0.7 going live on the test server.

Patch 0.7 Notes

Memory Usage

* Fixed a UI-related memory leak
* Fixed a clothing and armor texture-related memory issue

User Interface

* New Party Panel interface that helps players find other players for creating groups more easily.
* Reorganized the De-modificator, Augmentrex, and Nanoforge interfaces to appear in the left-hand panel area.
* Added an auto-transparency feature to the chat interface. This feature can be toggled in the Game Options menu.
* Players should now be able to skip all startup logo splash-screens with a single click.

Nightmare Difficulty

* The difficulty of Nightmare has been rebalanced. More overall experience is earned in Nightmare levels, scaling of group experience and difficulty has been improved, and the overall level progression has been adjusted.

Skills

* Fixed skills getting added to and/or removed from Shift activation when swapping weapons.
* Investing a skill point into an Aura skill will no longer automatically cause it to activate.

Templar

* Taunt skills are no longer reduced in effectiveness when grouped

Blademaster

* Path of Righteousness now applies damage from offhand melee weapons.

Guardian

* Prayer of Retribution can now be used while poisoned.
* Prayer of Healing can no longer be used while poisoned.

Cabalists

* The Summon Ember and Summon Fire Elemental skills should no longer conflict when granted through items.

Evokers

* Fixed a bug that caused Drain Power to charge an upfront power cost.
* Tempest’s targeting range has been increased and should now properly lose targets that move out of range.
* Fixed a bug which prevented Boneshards from having any effect on every other cast.
* Fixed a bug which prevented Evokers from using any other skills for two seconds after casting Boneshards.

Summoners

* Hand of Nostrom correctly adds more beams as the skill level increases.
* Fixed a bug which sometimes caused the Warper’s pet icon to not show up.
* Master of the Flame’s skill effects now display properly in the skill description tooltip.

Hunters

* Engineers
o Engineer Drone behavior improved.
o Fixed a bug that allowed Repair Drone to be used at no cost.
o Drones will now level properly along with their owner. Existing Drones that are below your character’s level will automatically be raised to the correct level.
o Drones now receive correct health bonuses with skill level after re-summoning it.
* Marksmen
o Overshield now gives the correct amount of shields.
o Fixed a bug that prevented Homing Shot from activating properly

Quests

* Fixed a bug with the Cannon Street Rails Quest Bug.
* Fixed an end of Act 4 bug where Maxim and Arphaun occupy the same place, allowing you to only talk to one of them, thus preventing you from completing the quest.
* Fixed a bug where Slaughterbeast occasionally doesn't spawn as expected for the “Regular Customer” quest.

Items

* Improved the drop rate of various recipes and analyzers.
* New blueprints have been added for Focus items and Boots.
* Focus items and Boots can now be made by crafters.
* Fixed a bug where Auras would turn on and off when swapping weapons that grant aura skills.

Guilds and Groups

* Fixed a bug where players were not seeing Guild invites.
* Introduced new Auto-Party logic to provide better matches.

World Movement

* Fixed additional instances where players were sometimes randomly teleported when other people use portals.
* Players can now use the /stuck command when in Ghost form.
* Fixed rare instances where certain areas were impassible.

Miscellaneous

* Fixed a bug where Founders saw all character names in blue text.
* Fixed rare issues with being unable to properly apply the Multiplayer patch.
* Fixed a bug with mods on weapons not being properly equipped when loading a character.
* Fixed rare cases where the PRD became unusable.
* Fixed a bug where numerous pets would show up in Stations.

Special Subscriber Features

12 new Unique Items
New unique weapons spread across all three factions.

We have a few Holiday goodies in our bag of tricks, including a very special gift that keeps on giving!

The Transmogrifier
This mystic box transforms the junk you put in it into something new and wonderful. When you discover a new Transmogrifier formula, it is automatically stored in a special recipe list.

Wintry Chapeau
This festive winter cap will give you good luck and cheer all the year round.

Fester Festivus
Quest for a jolly new fiendish friend decked out in holiday garb.

8 New-Year Dye Kits
Celebrate the New Year with special winter colors for your armor.

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Nightmare Difficulty

* The difficulty of Nightmare has been rebalanced. More overall experience is earned in Nightmare levels, scaling of group experience and difficulty has been improved, and the overall level progression has been adjusted.

This could really turn it ar...

Dyscord · 12-06-2007, 08:06 AM

omg, a horadric cube. Wonder if you can store junk in it like you could in D2.

11-27-2007, 11:19 AM	#1353 (permalink)
Ronne King for a night Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Harvard IL Posts: 5,014 +13 Internets	So, can you like, actually equip items from nightmare yet, or are the stat requirements still higher than possible to achieve? __________________ Put your gamertag here too.

11-28-2007, 05:46 AM	#1356 (permalink)
Mad Jacq Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Way down South in Dixie. Posts: 53 -5 Internets	I haven't played a single MMO (including your precious WoW) that didn't have some issues within the first few months of release. Does it suck? Yes. Is it new? Not so much. They're patching the game just like everyone else does... /shrug If you have a problem with the ass state that games are being released in, take it up with the industry itself. You will wear yourself out jumping on every single developer, of every single game, individually. Last edited by Mad Jacq; 11-28-2007 at 06:44 AM..

11-28-2007, 08:24 AM	#1358 (permalink)
leane Noob Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 894 +1 Internets	People are whining so much because they are still playing and enjoying the game despite their issues. Everybody here did the exact same thing in EQ, complained about how bad it was but kept on playing despite the bugs and problems. __________________ Murder! meyhem! kitties!

11-28-2007, 11:20 AM	#1362 (permalink)
Indiana This is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 711 +13 Internets	yes srsly, it's just a game lol. Get a life and stop complaining about every little thing. if you don like it dont buy it amirite? lol __________________ Indiana the Silent Club Fu Bristlebane We want to be the Blizzard of massively multiplayer gaming - John Smedley

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11-28-2007, 10:14 AM	#1361 (permalink)
Horse Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,970 -51 Internets	Seriously, calm down guys, we'll get too tired saying every individual game we play is shit when it is shit. Besides... we're still playing it, so we must enjoy it, as the only way you can say something sucks to the point of not playing it is to keep playing it. Remember - every game is actually really fucking horrible and then requires patching to fix it.

11-28-2007, 11:37 AM	#1363 (permalink)
Dyscord Harvey Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Command Carrier Posts: 2,181 +38 Internets	If you don't have anything nice to say... post it all over a message board. They patched in lower stat feeds, but to be honest, I'm not noticing, since its not retroactive. Only new items are getting lower feeds. And since you know... I'd actually have to play to regear... it doesn't affect me at all.

12-06-2007, 07:01 AM	#1364 (permalink)
Flight I'm your huckleberry Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 1,325 +40 Internets	Patch 0.7 going live on the test server. Patch 0.7 Notes Memory Usage * Fixed a UI-related memory leak * Fixed a clothing and armor texture-related memory issue User Interface * New Party Panel interface that helps players find other players for creating groups more easily. * Reorganized the De-modificator, Augmentrex, and Nanoforge interfaces to appear in the left-hand panel area. * Added an auto-transparency feature to the chat interface. This feature can be toggled in the Game Options menu. * Players should now be able to skip all startup logo splash-screens with a single click. Nightmare Difficulty * The difficulty of Nightmare has been rebalanced. More overall experience is earned in Nightmare levels, scaling of group experience and difficulty has been improved, and the overall level progression has been adjusted. Skills * Fixed skills getting added to and/or removed from Shift activation when swapping weapons. * Investing a skill point into an Aura skill will no longer automatically cause it to activate. Templar * Taunt skills are no longer reduced in effectiveness when grouped Blademaster * Path of Righteousness now applies damage from offhand melee weapons. Guardian * Prayer of Retribution can now be used while poisoned. * Prayer of Healing can no longer be used while poisoned. Cabalists * The Summon Ember and Summon Fire Elemental skills should no longer conflict when granted through items. Evokers * Fixed a bug that caused Drain Power to charge an upfront power cost. * Tempest’s targeting range has been increased and should now properly lose targets that move out of range. * Fixed a bug which prevented Boneshards from having any effect on every other cast. * Fixed a bug which prevented Evokers from using any other skills for two seconds after casting Boneshards. Summoners * Hand of Nostrom correctly adds more beams as the skill level increases. * Fixed a bug which sometimes caused the Warper’s pet icon to not show up. * Master of the Flame’s skill effects now display properly in the skill description tooltip. Hunters * Engineers o Engineer Drone behavior improved. o Fixed a bug that allowed Repair Drone to be used at no cost. o Drones will now level properly along with their owner. Existing Drones that are below your character’s level will automatically be raised to the correct level. o Drones now receive correct health bonuses with skill level after re-summoning it. * Marksmen o Overshield now gives the correct amount of shields. o Fixed a bug that prevented Homing Shot from activating properly Quests * Fixed a bug with the Cannon Street Rails Quest Bug. * Fixed an end of Act 4 bug where Maxim and Arphaun occupy the same place, allowing you to only talk to one of them, thus preventing you from completing the quest. * Fixed a bug where Slaughterbeast occasionally doesn't spawn as expected for the “Regular Customer” quest. Items * Improved the drop rate of various recipes and analyzers. * New blueprints have been added for Focus items and Boots. * Focus items and Boots can now be made by crafters. * Fixed a bug where Auras would turn on and off when swapping weapons that grant aura skills. Guilds and Groups * Fixed a bug where players were not seeing Guild invites. * Introduced new Auto-Party logic to provide better matches. World Movement * Fixed additional instances where players were sometimes randomly teleported when other people use portals. * Players can now use the /stuck command when in Ghost form. * Fixed rare instances where certain areas were impassible. Miscellaneous * Fixed a bug where Founders saw all character names in blue text. * Fixed rare issues with being unable to properly apply the Multiplayer patch. * Fixed a bug with mods on weapons not being properly equipped when loading a character. * Fixed rare cases where the PRD became unusable. * Fixed a bug where numerous pets would show up in Stations. Special Subscriber Features 12 new Unique Items New unique weapons spread across all three factions. We have a few Holiday goodies in our bag of tricks, including a very special gift that keeps on giving! The Transmogrifier This mystic box transforms the junk you put in it into something new and wonderful. When you discover a new Transmogrifier formula, it is automatically stored in a special recipe list. Wintry Chapeau This festive winter cap will give you good luck and cheer all the year round. Fester Festivus Quest for a jolly new fiendish friend decked out in holiday garb. 8 New-Year Dye Kits Celebrate the New Year with special winter colors for your armor. Quote : Nightmare Difficulty * The difficulty of Nightmare has been rebalanced. More overall experience is earned in Nightmare levels, scaling of group experience and difficulty has been improved, and the overall level progression has been adjusted. This could really turn it ar...

12-06-2007, 08:06 AM	#1365 (permalink)
Dyscord Harvey Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Command Carrier Posts: 2,181 +38 Internets	omg, a horadric cube. Wonder if you can store junk in it like you could in D2.