Hellgate London Beta - Sept 17

[huh]

Having to pay for Hardcore mode and to remove a level cap is gay as balls. I can understand subbing for new content, new items, even extra character slots, thats fine and great. But Hardcore mode and a level cap? How much recourses and dev time does it take to implement hardcore mode? Where's the justification for adding HC mode to the elite sub plan?

It's a money grab, and money grabs suck.

[Indiana]

I can't believe you're all still whining about a pitiful $15 a month. If you don't think the game is worth the extra hamburger a month, then don't pay it, walk away and live happy lives doing something else. Just for the love of god, stop crying about it.

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Indiana

I can't believe you're all still whining about a pitiful $15 a month. If you don't think the game is worth the extra hamburger a month, then don't pay it, walk away and live happy lives doing something else. Just for the love of god, stop crying about it.

Oh noes! People discussing online games on an MMO forum! The horror!

[stehle]

Originally Posted by Bongk

who gives a crap about graphics, its the gameplay that matters. Ultima 4 is still the best game I ever played and it was ASCII art. Now days all people seem to care about is graphics and they mean shit in the end, it is all about gameplay.

Everyone blows the budget on art assets and we get shit lore and gameplay. Everytime graphics get better it seems the games get worse.

<3 Ultima 4. Now if I could just get the original game I played on a Laser 128 to work on my dual-core machine. Anyone know where the 5 1/4" floppy connects to the back of your pc? (I kid)

Hellgate does look pretty good. I don't think I'll subscribe--even if it means I won't be getting access to uber_weapon_05.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by huh

Having to pay for Hardcore mode and to remove a level cap is gay as balls. I can understand subbing for new content, new items, even extra character slots, thats fine and great. But Hardcore mode and a level cap? How much recourses and dev time does it take to implement hardcore mode? Where's the justification for adding HC mode to the elite sub plan?

It's a money grab, and money grabs suck.

I don't know where the lvl cap restriction comes from, didn't see anything about that, lvl cap is 50 for both elite and normal accounts as far as I can see.
This is what the wiki says:
Subscription Benefits Subscribers get these added perks

* 9 additional character slots
* ongoing content adding more items into the pool, and areas to explore
* double the universal storage
* use of guild housing and guild creation features
* VIP shuttling
* Added gameplay modes

So besides the updated content thing, you're missing on hardcore mode, guild creation(but you can join guilds without paying), char slots which sucks if you like rolling lots of alts, account bank space which sucks if you like collecting rare items and queue priority when servers are full, which hopefully shouldn't happen too often.

That sounds rather decent to me, I can live without any of these features, I'm just annoyed at the char slots since I like rolling multiple chars, but I'll just choose the ones I like most. I also guess you can pay 10$ one month, make new chars during this month, then just stop paying and you won't have access to these chars anymore, but they won't be deleted.

[Akileese]

According to Kotaku, beta starts next week and ends Oct. 7th. Really short and it'd be nice to see it go for 3 weeks. There's not much you can really test in 2 weeks. I guess it will work well to see if you wanna buy it though.

[Bo Jackson]

Originally Posted by Tindel

i would easily EASILY have paid 15dollas a month for good servers etc in diablo2.

I dont see what the fucking fuss is about? If the game is good, what the hell is a couple dollars a month? If it separates me from all the fucking kids, even better.

i feel the same way.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Akileese

According to Kotaku, beta starts next week and ends Oct. 7th. Really short and it'd be nice to see it go for 3 weeks. There's not much you can really test in 2 weeks. I guess it will work well to see if you wanna buy it though.

Hmm actually in 2 weeks you can test quite a lot for such a game. It's not a hardcore oriented game, you can easily finish diablo main story in 2weeks given you do play at least a few hours everyday. The main issue with this beta would be the fact that it doesn't give them much time to get their game tested and patch stuff, but it's only a change on the terms, they've been in alpha for a really long time, so this closed beta thing is just to get some preorder numbers in.

Anywy I'm pretty excited about the beta, not because I'm really looking forward to the game, but because I've been bored to hell lately with nothing to play ^^. I hope the game can keep me interested for a few months.

[Sharmai]

Originally Posted by Pyros

Hmm actually in 2 weeks you can test quite a lot for such a game. It's not a hardcore oriented game, you can easily finish diablo main story in 2weeks given you do play at least a few hours everyday. The main issue with this beta would be the fact that it doesn't give them much time to get their game tested and patch stuff, but it's only a change on the terms, they've been in alpha for a really long time, so this closed beta thing is just to get some preorder numbers in.

Anywy I'm pretty excited about the beta, not because I'm really looking forward to the game, but because I've been bored to hell lately with nothing to play ^^. I hope the game can keep me interested for a few months.

You and mean are on the same page... I am bored to tears with games right now so I am really excited about this and portals/orange box

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

You and mean are on the same page... I am bored to tears with games right now so I am really excited about this and portals/orange box

Yeah lol, I got excited about freaking FPS too, that's how bored I am. TF2, Crysis, UT3... If any of them is as entertaining as bioshock, I guess I'll be ok for a week. I also see good console games, but so few of them on a single system, and I don't feel like buying them all. It's either the "wtf I still can't find one for sale" wii, the "red ring of death" xbox or the "you don't really need 2 kidneys anyway" ps3.
But the worst really isn't so much that I don't have something to play NOW, it's that I don't see myself playing anything anytime soon either. Warhammer looks like slowmo wow with boring classes and AoC had so many bad rumors about it I almost thought Brad was actually working on it.

The future of mmorpgs look grim to me, maybe I'm just getting old.

[Sharmai]

It's not you... Consider we grew up on NWN, Baulders Gate, Mario Kart's, Metal Gears, Final Fantasy, Eq's...
Mabye we have just gotten so good games don't last us more then a week anymore but I am really begging for a nice decent 12 month game addiction... I miss passing out on the keyboard because a game was just that good...

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

It's not you... Consider we grew up on NWN, Baulders Gate, Mario Kart's, Metal Gears, Final Fantasy, Eq's...
Mabye we have just gotten so good games don't last us more then a week anymore but I am really begging for a nice decent 12 month game addiction... I miss passing out on the keyboard because a game was just that good...

haha yeah falling asleep at the keyboard because raids lasted 12 hours, rocked at the time but yeah I doubt I want to do that now. I see what you saying though I wanna be hooked on games again. Its just not as easy any more. I tend to play them hardcore for a week then revisit a few months later. Except RPGs I play them in spurts. Still haven't beaten DQ VIII or FF XII cause I haven't beaten a bunch of others I am getting back to that I played before I got those.

[Flight]

Just posted this elsewhere and can't be arsed editting it all, so no bitching if some of it is already on this thread :

In game footage


This trailer made me sex wee.


I love that they are using the same fonts as in Diablo.




Developer Walkthrough pt 1 including basic skill trees


Developer Walkthrough pt 2


Co-op Gameplay Trailer


Hunter : Marksman Class

Hunter : Engineer Class




Cabalist : Evoker Class


Templar : Guardian Class

There are more - the trailers just keep running into the next in the series.




Minimum specs have been released :


A: The minimum PC specs for North America and Europe are as follows:

* OS: Windows XP with SP2 or Windows Vista
* Processor: 1 .8GHz or faster (2.4GHz for Vista)
* RAM: 1GB or more (2GB for Vista)
* Video: DirectX 9.0c/10 compatible device w/ 128MB RAM or better and Pixel Shader 2.0 support; requires NVIDIA GeForce 6200/ATI Radeon 9000 chipset or greater
* Audio: DirectX 9.0c compatible device
* Disc drive: 8x DVD or faster
* Hard drive: 6 GB or more free space
* Input: Keyboard and mouse
* Internet: Connection required for multiplayer



Pre -order benefits - including buying lifetime subscription to the optional content etc.


Collectors edition.

Pre-order offer and Collectors Edition not presently available in Europe. The Dye Kits included are permanent and re-usable. Those pictures don't do them justice - they look terrific.



More at Hellgate Guru and at their forums.

[Flight]

Gamespot has done an interview with Flagship Studios writer, Ivan Sulic. The interview details of the various quest types in Hellgate as well as a few specific quests, mainly the RTS type quest and a Turret shooting quest.

Ivan Sulic: I believe we’re at about 250 quests for launch. There are essentially three primary quest types in Hellgate: London. We have story quests, template quests, and…um…tasks? The names get changed often. Apparently “task” isn’t very exciting. Let’s just call them, “Those grand opportunities of much astonishing fun.”

Anyway, story quests are entirely unique. They are coded to offer experiences that may include minigames, special scenarios and/or events, environment alterations, and scripts not found in template quests.

Template quests are pretty straightforward. They are built off eight basic formulas: collect, explore, escort, infestation, hunt, travel/talk-and-do, use item, and operate object.

The final type, which I’ll just keep right on calling “tasks” until someone kills me with a hammer, are combinations of templates and story quests.


To go along with this, the RTS quest and the Turret quest are shown in a video.





This game is going to be huge. Its nuts that people with the track record of Bill Roper and his team have so many doubters; its the total opposite of Vanguard getting so much positive hype, before people had played it.

[Azrayne]

I think a lot of people are getting their panties in a bunch over the whole fee thing. If the game is generally well received they'll probably be able to overcome that though. We'll see how it turns out in October.

Edit: And yes, if that trailer had genitals I'd fuck it. I <3 games with good trailers, the fact that FS have put so much effort into theirs says something about them, imo, as with most companies.