Hellgate London Beta - Sept 17 - Page 71

Tagwen · 11-04-2007, 03:43 PM

Patch notes for tomorrow
Hellgate: London Forums

Azharan · 11-04-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachima

I've got a 2x2 power supply stuck in my inventory =(

This is the workaround for that.

Hellgate: London Forums

chu · 11-04-2007, 05:54 PM

Thread on Main forums

straight to the point...nightmare is no fun atm.

@normal
you (lvl31) - endboss @ normal (lvl32) // this is fine and completely doable

@nightmare
you (lvl31 1/2) - endboss of act1 (lvl40) // undoable without grinding for hours
you (lvl32 1/2) - endboss of act2 (lvl47) // undoable without grinding for hours

the big deal for everything is...
<7 lvls above you = easy
8 lvls above you = hard, but doable
>9 lvls above you = nearly impossible

now you might say "grind more for exp and farm better items". i could live with that. nightmare should take longer and should be harder. but it should be doable. atm i have to grind shulgoth for 1hour to 3hours (when you getting higher in your lvl) just to be able to finish the next quest area.
the exp-curve and also the lvl-curve of the enemys are totally broken.

there are two ways atm how it would end.
the final-endboss will be lvl68-70 and impossible to kill. or the final-endboss will be lvl 50-52 and act4 and act5 will become a lol-faktor (you have to be near lvl50 to kill the endboss of act3).

the blues of the nightmare bosses haven't your character lvl (they have the character lvl of kills in normal-mode).

looking at all of that...nightmare feels terribly unbalanced, incomplete, unfinished and un-tested.

one last thing:
i haven't seen any post to this nightmare experience so far. this feels very strange. i doubt my mates and i are the only forum-active users who managed to get to nightmare.
so it may could be a bug, caused by anything i've done in-game or a bad patch0 download. might be.

update:
i've done some testing in singleplayer. and...just...lol. see for yourself

SPOILER screenshots:
Act2-Endboss Lvl47
Act3-Endboss Lvl48
Act4-Endboss Lvl55
Final-Endboss Lvl62

this realy need to be fixed soon. counting on you fss/ping0

Dyscord · 11-04-2007, 08:23 PM

They're patching monday and adding new content for the subscribers i guess. It sounds like a new type of hell portal, some silly holiday crap, and useable grenades for other classes. Even if this stuff is patched in bi monthly... I'm still having trouble justifying $15 a month for it. Especially with the god awful memory leaks.

Kodylan · 11-04-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyscord

They're patching monday and adding new content for the subscribers i guess. It sounds like a new type of hell portal, some silly holiday crap, and useable grenades for other classes. Even if this stuff is patched in bi monthly... I'm still having trouble justifying $15 a month for it. Especially with the god awful memory leaks.

It's $9.99 a month for HG:L if you pay monthly. $51ish if you pay every 6 months, but yeah the subscription is hard to justify until they start patching real content into the game.

Oh and good game dynamically generated levels. I zone into Upper Thames and I'm instantly bombarded by 6 ravagers, 4 bruisers and 2 soul leeches or whatever they're called. I nearly die before I can even move.

Havelock · 11-04-2007, 10:30 PM

I wonder if the drone bugs will really be fixed. If so, engineers will be unbelievably sick. A drone does well with white weapons and armor; I can't wait to see how it will do with an array of legendaries.

Kirby · 11-04-2007, 11:38 PM

this game feels like a cabal online clone!

aside from that anyone kinda pissed that the first patch here should kinda be available to non subs as i feel like i bought an unfinished product.

Kodylan · 11-05-2007, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirby

this game feels like a cabal online clone!

aside from that anyone kinda pissed that the first patch here should kinda be available to non subs as i feel like i bought an unfinished product.

You're kidding about the cabal online comment right?

Pilsbane · 11-05-2007, 01:27 AM

I've gotten stuck on terrain twice on the way to Embarkment Redoubt, and I've had a van blocking the exit of the building in Embarkment Redoubt three times, for a total of five forced restarts in a row in just that one area. It's frustrating. The game is fun, just broken. There is no fucking way I'll pay a subscription for this game for at least six months (and probably never since there will be new MMO options by then).

Edit: The van blocking the way is the RTS section. I figured this out eventually. Still, things like getting stuck on terrain (even though there is a /stuck command--thanks egoslicer) are annoying. It just makes the game feel unpolished.

egoslicer · 11-05-2007, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilsbane

I've gotten stuck on terrain twice on the way to Embarkment Redoubt, and I've had a van blocking the exit of the building in Embarkment Redoubt three times, for a total of five forced restarts in a row in just that one area. It's frustrating. The game is fun, just broken. There is no fucking way I'll pay a subscription for this game for at least six months (and probably never since there will be new MMO options by then).

/stuck

Man0warr · 11-05-2007, 02:03 AM

I bought the digital version and downloaded it, can't even install it :< Gets stuck after the registration key part, error I get:

"Could not open key / Hkey_current_user/software ea//eacore//eadm/eadmonline_content//helgate_london//ergc Verify that you have sufficient access to that key or contact your support personnel"

Awesome.

Vardisk · 11-05-2007, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodylan

Oh and good game dynamically generated levels. I zone into Upper Thames and I'm instantly bombarded by 6 ravagers, 4 bruisers and 2 soul leeches or whatever they're called. I nearly die before I can even move.

How'd you manage that, what with the whole invulnerability buff every time you zone?

Kolle · 11-05-2007, 03:39 AM

I'm glad they are addressing the memory issue today with the patch. And the drone bug thing...I put my engineer on hold for a few days until they fixed it so I might jump back to that. Compared to some mmo releases this is not bad at all. Some nights I jerk awake from latent AO memories.

As for the new content, It looks neat. It's not a 'holiday' usually done in a game so it's nice to have something different. If they do something like that on a regular basis and add more substantial content every now and then I will gladly pay $10. I just can't put up with this mmo raiding bullshit anymore, so something this relaxed that I can do whenever the fuck I want for $5 less is a lot more appealing. I just wish I knew how to safely sell my wow account. I wouldn't mind making a few bills go away.

Smocca · 11-05-2007, 04:08 AM

So... anyone online that can help me do Sydonai? I'm only level 24 and he basically one shots me. I'd go level up and get some gear but I'm just going to remake this guy on Elite after this battle anyway.

If you are able to help just message me in game (Smocca) or leave a message here.

EDIT: Nvm, I beat him finally. Had to pull him to the zone line and just zerg the shit out of him.

Qhue · 11-05-2007, 06:41 AM

Remember Remember the 5th of November
The Gunpower Treason and Plot,
I Can Think of No Reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be Forgot

11-05-2007, 01:27 AM	#1059 (permalink)
Pilsbane Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 249 +4 Internets	I've gotten stuck on terrain twice on the way to Embarkment Redoubt, and I've had a van blocking the exit of the building in Embarkment Redoubt three times, for a total of five forced restarts in a row in just that one area. It's frustrating. The game is fun, just broken. There is no fucking way I'll pay a subscription for this game for at least six months (and probably never since there will be new MMO options by then). Edit: The van blocking the way is the RTS section. I figured this out eventually. Still, things like getting stuck on terrain (even though there is a /stuck command--thanks egoslicer) are annoying. It just makes the game feel unpolished. Last edited by Pilsbane; 11-05-2007 at 04:20 PM..

11-05-2007, 02:03 AM	#1061 (permalink)
Man0warr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,601	I bought the digital version and downloaded it, can't even install it :< Gets stuck after the registration key part, error I get: "Could not open key / Hkey_current_user/software ea//eacore//eadm/eadmonline_content//helgate_london//ergc Verify that you have sufficient access to that key or contact your support personnel" Awesome. __________________ Manowarr - Ranger - Dominus Letum

11-05-2007, 04:08 AM	#1064 (permalink)
Smocca Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 872 +24 Internets	So... anyone online that can help me do Sydonai? I'm only level 24 and he basically one shots me. I'd go level up and get some gear but I'm just going to remake this guy on Elite after this battle anyway. If you are able to help just message me in game (Smocca) or leave a message here. EDIT: Nvm, I beat him finally. Had to pull him to the zone line and just zerg the shit out of him. __________________ Wii Code: 4250 4436 6536 6872 Last edited by Smocca; 11-05-2007 at 05:01 AM..

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11-04-2007, 03:43 PM	#1051 (permalink)
Tagwen Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 46 -1 Internets	Patch notes for tomorrow Hellgate: London Forums

11-04-2007, 05:54 PM	#1053 (permalink)
chu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,465 -63 Internets	Thread on Main forums straight to the point...nightmare is no fun atm. @normal you (lvl31) - endboss @ normal (lvl32) // this is fine and completely doable @nightmare you (lvl31 1/2) - endboss of act1 (lvl40) // undoable without grinding for hours you (lvl32 1/2) - endboss of act2 (lvl47) // undoable without grinding for hours the big deal for everything is... <7 lvls above you = easy 8 lvls above you = hard, but doable >9 lvls above you = nearly impossible now you might say "grind more for exp and farm better items". i could live with that. nightmare should take longer and should be harder. but it should be doable. atm i have to grind shulgoth for 1hour to 3hours (when you getting higher in your lvl) just to be able to finish the next quest area. the exp-curve and also the lvl-curve of the enemys are totally broken. there are two ways atm how it would end. the final-endboss will be lvl68-70 and impossible to kill. or the final-endboss will be lvl 50-52 and act4 and act5 will become a lol-faktor (you have to be near lvl50 to kill the endboss of act3). the blues of the nightmare bosses haven't your character lvl (they have the character lvl of kills in normal-mode). looking at all of that...nightmare feels terribly unbalanced, incomplete, unfinished and un-tested. one last thing: i haven't seen any post to this nightmare experience so far. this feels very strange. i doubt my mates and i are the only forum-active users who managed to get to nightmare. so it may could be a bug, caused by anything i've done in-game or a bad patch0 download. might be. update: i've done some testing in singleplayer. and...just...lol. see for yourself SPOILER screenshots: Act2-Endboss Lvl47 Act3-Endboss Lvl48 Act4-Endboss Lvl55 Final-Endboss Lvl62 this realy need to be fixed soon. counting on you fss/ping0

11-04-2007, 08:23 PM	#1054 (permalink)
Dyscord Harvey Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Command Carrier Posts: 2,180 +38 Internets	They're patching monday and adding new content for the subscribers i guess. It sounds like a new type of hell portal, some silly holiday crap, and useable grenades for other classes. Even if this stuff is patched in bi monthly... I'm still having trouble justifying $15 a month for it. Especially with the god awful memory leaks.

11-04-2007, 10:30 PM	#1056 (permalink)
Havelock Lead Farmer Join Date: May 2005 Location: DC Posts: 1,976	I wonder if the drone bugs will really be fixed. If so, engineers will be unbelievably sick. A drone does well with white weapons and armor; I can't wait to see how it will do with an array of legendaries.

11-04-2007, 11:38 PM	#1057 (permalink)
Kirby Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 345 -8 Internets	this game feels like a cabal online clone! aside from that anyone kinda pissed that the first patch here should kinda be available to non subs as i feel like i bought an unfinished product.

11-05-2007, 03:39 AM	#1063 (permalink)
Kolle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,879 -25 Internets	I'm glad they are addressing the memory issue today with the patch. And the drone bug thing...I put my engineer on hold for a few days until they fixed it so I might jump back to that. Compared to some mmo releases this is not bad at all. Some nights I jerk awake from latent AO memories. As for the new content, It looks neat. It's not a 'holiday' usually done in a game so it's nice to have something different. If they do something like that on a regular basis and add more substantial content every now and then I will gladly pay $10. I just can't put up with this mmo raiding bullshit anymore, so something this relaxed that I can do whenever the fuck I want for $5 less is a lot more appealing. I just wish I knew how to safely sell my wow account. I wouldn't mind making a few bills go away.

11-05-2007, 06:41 AM	#1065 (permalink)
Qhue Tunare's most surly gnome Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Upstate NY Posts: 1,491	Remember Remember the 5th of November The Gunpower Treason and Plot, I Can Think of No Reason Why Gunpowder Treason Should ever be Forgot