Hellgate London Beta - Sept 17

[Hachima]

The game is a lot of fun but I still don't see any reason why I would pay a monthly fee for it. Maybe one month every 6 months in order to take advantage of two 'large 3 month updates.' I finished all the beta content in about 10 hours for one character which is apparently 66% of the total content that will be available. So the game is probably about 15 hours long.

My guess is if they were to go with a Guild Wars model with true flow blown expansions every 6 months they would have brought in a lot more money. I just don't see a lot of people wanting to sign up for the elite status though because it is definitely nothing even close to a MMO unless you considered D2 a MMO also.

Edit: In my entire play time I never once grouped, or felt the need to group, with any other players. The only interaction I had was asking a few basic questions about the game.

[Zindan]

Hm, I don't see how the current content is near 66% of the total, maybe 33%. Unless the lvl cap at release is going to be 30? But yea, I don't see any reason to pay a monthly sub when there are some features missing from a normal mmo...so far.

[Fish Bone]

Originally Posted by Zindan

Hm, I don't see how the current content is near 66% of the total, maybe 33%. Unless the lvl cap at release is going to be 30? But yea, I don't see any reason to pay a monthly sub when there are some features missing from a normal mmo...so far.

I have no idea if it's accurate or not but according to the wikipedia article the level cap will be 50. I've heard the same things elsewhere.

[Rush]

Whoever you faggots that pushed GoGamer were, well, as previously stated, you are faggots. Its been 3 hours and no beta keys, faggots. Fuck I hate faggots.

[Draegan]

Originally Posted by Rush

Whoever you faggots that pushed GoGamer were, well, as previously stated, you are faggots. Its been 3 hours and no beta keys, faggots. Fuck I hate faggots.

You should go masturbate to release the nerd rage.

[Rush]

Fuck you faggot. I don't need to masturbate, I have a doll that does it for me!

[nosf]

Tried a friend's; now granted I only played to level 5 but it didn't seem to be anything special. Felt really mediocre in fact. Hope to get to try it some more, I'll at least give it a chance.

[TKarrde]

Originally Posted by Rush

Whoever you faggots that pushed GoGamer were, well, as previously stated, you are faggots. Its been 3 hours and no beta keys, faggots. Fuck I hate faggots.

Such a happy person. You're pissed off that it's been less than the advertised 24 hours?

http://www.uploadhouse.com/fileuploa...2c3d9c57bc.jpg

Your mileage may vary.

Edit: Chris, image uploaders suck.

[Rush]

Your link doesn't work friend.

[TKarrde]

The new one should.

[nosf]

Have to drag it to a new tab and force a refresh - CTRL F5 in IE.

[Havelock]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

Could you give, say, 3 examples of how it promotes difference within the same class? We could even take it to PMs if we're concerned about NDA breach, but I'd like to know what you think, because I think the opposite and have yet to see a compelling argument for diversity.

My $.02: it doesn't promote big diversity. There are some games where different builds of a class play almost completely differently. If you look at the HGL skill trees, it doesn't look like there will be room for radical differences. Builds will be individualized, but given the depth of the item system that's been publicly discussed (interchangeable mods, the gambling machine that adds random attributes, a wide variety of items and diversity among them, and the nanoforge) it could be reasonable to assume that gear differentiation will count for a lot. Looking at the skill trees, you can see that players will be able to shape their characters but not to the extent that two players of the same class are radically different based on skill allocation.

I think in part this is because they expect to add more classes down the line, and that's where the big diversity is. FSS mentioned there will be more classes coming; in fact, originally they had talked about launching with 9. There's overlap within the archetypes - engineers and marskmen, for instance, get soem of the same skills. They could have just put in three trees for the hunter class and let people distribute points amongst them, but rather than add additional trees until the whole process became unwieldy and intimidating, they decided to preselect trees and thus allow themselves much more room for added classes (which will just be variants on the three archetypes; theoretically new archetypes could also come along on occasion, such as at expansion time). There are obviously downsides to doing it this way, but if they add classes when the time comes I think it could help keep the game fresh. Adding another twist to an existing archetype is easier than coming up with a whole new class, and easier in the long run than continually adding a skill tree to a class in a one-class-per-archetype system whenever you wanted to give the players more options.

[darksensei]

Just want to inform people that the gamestop in my area had the preorder box today.

[Fish Bone]

I could just be unlucky but it seems like the invites have slowed down. I entered my beta key on Thursday morning and I have yet to receive an official invite.

[Faddor]

Originally Posted by kudos

Are you playing it? I have been and it's boring as shit.

Your grasp of logic is pretty poor if you think you not liking it, and in this thread at least being in the overall minority or at least not majority, is any evidence towards this game being a 'bigger flop than Vanguard.'

It's pretty obvious that any game without screams of bloody murder from beta NDA breakers is not going to suck hard enough to have no one playing it 3 months after release.