[FF11] Just a warning about cancelling - Page 45

Stave · 11-01-2007, 12:49 PM

Combat seems to become more fun when you get a bit higher, and start organising and pulling off big skill chains and magic bursts, and also when groups can start pulling off things like IT chains with close fights but pulling it off because players are starting to get better. General concensus is that Valkrum Dunes is hell and the worst part of the game. Quifim isnt much better, and Khazam can suck, but after that is when the game really gets good.

When I initially started playing, it started to pick up around the time I got to Khazam around 30. Part of this is because sub-jobs open up more abilities, as a lot of sub's first job abilities start around 10 and 15, plus you generally get the good main job abilities around 30. Also around 30 it seems like you start to group with more variations of jobs in groups and jobs start to come into their own.

If your just starting, I would suggest doing some other things besides just grinding xp. Granted you need to xp, but throw some other stuff in there too. I would really recommend to start on some missions, as they are extremely fun, and things like making your first trip to Jueno, getting your chocobo license are all coming up soon and will break the xp grind up a bit more too.

Baradak · 11-01-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ham n Cheese

Have to be honest, feeling like combat is incredibly slow and fairly boring. Playing daily still at the hopes of the game becoming fun but so far the 1-15 path has been very little amounts of 'fun'. Though I plan on giving it a fair month of trying before I rush to judgment, especially since I just bought every expansions 2 days ago heh.

Like everyone else has said, the combat takes a while to open up. I had a semi-static on my bard a while back with 2 friends on Hades(also Midgardsormr before they did the split to Hades). Me BRD/WHM, those two MNK/WAR and RNG/(WAR or NIN). Those 2 were geared to the hilt and post-50 we had a ton of fun just...theres not even a word for it. Absolutely destroying anything basically. Slug Shot -> Raging Fists followed up by a Barrage. Monk had O.Kote and some sick H2H, ranger used only Silver bullets. I had +1 or +2 instruments for important songs like madrigal, march, etc. Between the 2 WS, their skillchain damage, and the barrage it was like 75% of an IT++ life. Chain 4-6 were very common, we'd pull 8 to 14k an hour. This was all before the ranger nerf though, and long before the 2H weapon changes.

I should try seeing if its possible to get my bard back. All I have are the codes for Original FFXI and Zilart. No POL account number, no idea on the original credit card used. Of course I have name/address etc.

Vinen · 11-01-2007, 01:15 PM

Thats another thing thats nice about FFXI. It's not grind to 75 and do content. It's do important things as you level, etc... I'd try to get Rank 3 by level 25. Rank 4 & 5 by 50. Do Mission 5-1 at 50, do Mission 5-2 at 60. Then start working on Zilart Missions at 70 (Can do earlier but will be hard to find people who will take you I think. They also require that you be at least Rank 6 as the story branches into RoZ / Nation Specifc at this point). Can start CoP missions at 30. ToAU missions don't really start till 75 though.

As much as I hate level capped content it does wonders in keeping content difficult.

Pre Mission 5-2 BC's are all level capped in the main storyline.
No RoZ missions are level capped
CoP missions are level capped at 30, 40, 50, 60 (Hardest Missions are at 60 cap) and then uncapped.
No ToAU missions are level capped

Stave · 11-01-2007, 02:20 PM

Yeah I agree with Vinen. FFXI is really not about getting to 75 and then doing content, its more about doing stuff WHILE leveling, which is a nice change from most other mmo's. Missions come at all levels, as do things like aquiring your airship passes and chocobo licenses, along with hard quests like AF quests, and the level 50, 55, 60, 65, and 70 level cap quests, quests for your weapon skills, larger bag slots, unlocking new jobs, etc. Not to mention BCNM fights for level 30's, 40's, etc (Basically an arena fight against a boss mob for loot, and you are capped at that level). Also there is chocobo breeding/racing now, ballista (battleground like pvp) etc. Theres so much to do outside of level 75.

Ronne · 11-01-2007, 02:41 PM

Eta on server up?

Edit: nm, it was my connection being lame =P

daishinzo · 11-01-2007, 05:01 PM

Got everything up and running. Mapped keys to controller and went and knocked out level 4 and explored windhurst. Looks great w/ tweaked settings and has that nice FF console feel that I haven't touched in so long. I'll enjoy it more than likely since I've never been afraid of grinds =P

Vinen · 11-01-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronne

Eta on server up?

Edit: nm, it was my connection being lame =P

FFXI's servers rarely go down. They are some of the most stable I have ever seen in a game.

Ronne · 11-01-2007, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinen

FFXI's servers rarely go down. They are some of the most stable I have ever seen in a game.

yeah, i saw some message last night about playonline maintenance and thought it might still be going on, but my tubes here in the dorm were just sucking it up.

Joined some random newbie LS today to try and get some groups from until I can catch Nhilist online.

Kevincheese · 11-02-2007, 08:19 AM

Anyone here got an extra buddy pass they don't need?

I want to try out 2boxing, but I don't really want to buy another copy, and my friend already used my buddy pass. Wouldn't mind passing a code back later if I do buy another copy though.

Pm me if so, thanks!

Vinen · 11-02-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevincheese

Anyone here got an extra buddy pass they don't need?

I want to try out 2boxing, but I don't really want to buy another copy, and my friend already used my buddy pass. Wouldn't mind passing a code back later if I do buy another copy though.

Pm me if so, thanks!

Just as a Warning.

Funny shit can start to happen if you box 2 characters on one machine using the Windower Application.

Incoming Data can become mixed such that you see the other characters chatlog, etc...

Kevincheese · 11-02-2007, 09:12 AM

Not doing it on one pc, much as I've been a fan of that in the past in other games.

Thanks for the warning though

Sidhe · 11-02-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinen

Just as a Warning.

Funny shit can start to happen if you box 2 characters on one machine using the Windower Application.

Incoming Data can become mixed such that you see the other characters chatlog, etc...

I just started doing this, and noticing that...incredibly strange. I'd never seen anything like that in my life.

pablos · 11-02-2007, 04:03 PM

just started a blm taru on fenrir named Pablos, so if anybody is on that can get me into the linkshell would really apreciate it.

Sidhe · 11-02-2007, 06:32 PM

I'm not sure if it's the Brandson UI or if my install is just completely messed up, but I literally do not have the "Grips" category in my Auction House. Other people have confirmed it's exactly where I was looking, but I only have 3 options there instead of 4. Had to have a friend buy me a Mythril Grip +1.

daishinzo · 11-03-2007, 08:28 AM

Speaking of auction house. Is there anything to make it less god damn awful? I have been purely storing everything because of how long it takes to post garbage. Also for a new player trying to find prices and gear and such. Ugh I don't think I've played any game with a worse implemented feature =P

Only moderately saving grace is a friend linking me to a site that has almost up to date auctions per server to check prices when I want to sell something. And don't get me started on bidding...price history or not.

11-01-2007, 12:49 PM	#661 (permalink)
Stave Lurkin since birth Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 68 -1 Internets	Combat seems to become more fun when you get a bit higher, and start organising and pulling off big skill chains and magic bursts, and also when groups can start pulling off things like IT chains with close fights but pulling it off because players are starting to get better. General concensus is that Valkrum Dunes is hell and the worst part of the game. Quifim isnt much better, and Khazam can suck, but after that is when the game really gets good. When I initially started playing, it started to pick up around the time I got to Khazam around 30. Part of this is because sub-jobs open up more abilities, as a lot of sub's first job abilities start around 10 and 15, plus you generally get the good main job abilities around 30. Also around 30 it seems like you start to group with more variations of jobs in groups and jobs start to come into their own. If your just starting, I would suggest doing some other things besides just grinding xp. Granted you need to xp, but throw some other stuff in there too. I would really recommend to start on some missions, as they are extremely fun, and things like making your first trip to Jueno, getting your chocobo license are all coming up soon and will break the xp grind up a bit more too. __________________ Stavez Pally Staved Rogue Stavex Warlock Warsong (Mud Brothers)

11-01-2007, 01:15 PM	#663 (permalink)
Vinen A Cat is Fine Too Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Not in fucking Acton, MA anymore! Posts: 2,758	Thats another thing thats nice about FFXI. It's not grind to 75 and do content. It's do important things as you level, etc... I'd try to get Rank 3 by level 25. Rank 4 & 5 by 50. Do Mission 5-1 at 50, do Mission 5-2 at 60. Then start working on Zilart Missions at 70 (Can do earlier but will be hard to find people who will take you I think. They also require that you be at least Rank 6 as the story branches into RoZ / Nation Specifc at this point). Can start CoP missions at 30. ToAU missions don't really start till 75 though. As much as I hate level capped content it does wonders in keeping content difficult. Pre Mission 5-2 BC's are all level capped in the main storyline. No RoZ missions are level capped CoP missions are level capped at 30, 40, 50, 60 (Hardest Missions are at 60 cap) and then uncapped. No ToAU missions are level capped __________________ Vinna, Feral Druid, Stormrage Server Hope is not a strategy Last edited by Vinen : 11-01-2007 at 01:17 PM.

11-01-2007, 02:20 PM	#664 (permalink)
Stave Lurkin since birth Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 68 -1 Internets	Yeah I agree with Vinen. FFXI is really not about getting to 75 and then doing content, its more about doing stuff WHILE leveling, which is a nice change from most other mmo's. Missions come at all levels, as do things like aquiring your airship passes and chocobo licenses, along with hard quests like AF quests, and the level 50, 55, 60, 65, and 70 level cap quests, quests for your weapon skills, larger bag slots, unlocking new jobs, etc. Not to mention BCNM fights for level 30's, 40's, etc (Basically an arena fight against a boss mob for loot, and you are capped at that level). Also there is chocobo breeding/racing now, ballista (battleground like pvp) etc. Theres so much to do outside of level 75. __________________ Stavez Pally Staved Rogue Stavex Warlock Warsong (Mud Brothers)

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11-01-2007, 05:01 PM	#666 (permalink)
daishinzo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 138 -1 Internets	Got everything up and running. Mapped keys to controller and went and knocked out level 4 and explored windhurst. Looks great w/ tweaked settings and has that nice FF console feel that I haven't touched in so long. I'll enjoy it more than likely since I've never been afraid of grinds =P

11-02-2007, 04:03 PM	#673 (permalink)
pablos Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 12 +1 Internets	just started a blm taru on fenrir named Pablos, so if anybody is on that can get me into the linkshell would really apreciate it.

11-02-2007, 06:32 PM	#674 (permalink)
Sidhe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Waynesburg, PA Posts: 201 +1 Internets	I'm not sure if it's the Brandson UI or if my install is just completely messed up, but I literally do not have the "Grips" category in my Auction House. Other people have confirmed it's exactly where I was looking, but I only have 3 options there instead of 4. Had to have a friend buy me a Mythril Grip +1.

11-03-2007, 08:28 AM	#675 (permalink)
daishinzo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 138 -1 Internets	Speaking of auction house. Is there anything to make it less god damn awful? I have been purely storing everything because of how long it takes to post garbage. Also for a new player trying to find prices and gear and such. Ugh I don't think I've played any game with a worse implemented feature =P Only moderately saving grace is a friend linking me to a site that has almost up to date auctions per server to check prices when I want to sell something. And don't get me started on bidding...price history or not.