Fallout MMO coming

[Zarcath]

Originally Posted by mek

Holy shit that's not enough time. They don't even have capital, let alone staff, let alone design docs, let alone a single asset they could use. Try 2012, Interplay.

We don't know what form of "MMO" play the game will take. They keep referring to it as Fallout Online, we could just see a revamped Fallout engine with multiplayer capabilitiy, ala NWN.

[Twobit Whore]

Pretty sure the investment docs state it will be a traditional MMO targetting up to a million players.

[Eomer]

They also mention a target budget and stuff, which I don't remember offhand. Thirty million rings a bell, but that might be a VG echo.

This isn't news, the SEC filing is at least 6 months old. Either myself or someone posted it here originally, and for the most part it was agreed that this is simply Interplay desperately trying to fuck VC's out of their money.

Maybe it'll come out on The Phantom console exclusively!

[Vorph]

Originally Posted by Insiderr

Go back to NMA.

Pretty sure that the idea of Bethesda doing a MMO is repugnant to a lot more people than just the NMA crazies. Even people who like their games freely admit that they are not even remotely balanced out of the box.


Also: fuck off.

[TwiNCannoN]

Definitely agree with Vorph. Bethesda doesn't even have normal multiplayer experience, nor have they wanted it. Throwing an MMO into their hands would probably be a disaster (but then again, who knows, WoW came out alright).

In any case, Fallout MMO = wrong.

[Druixx]

I don't care what anyone else says. The idea of a Fallout MMO makes me hard. Almost as hard as Brian Fargo letting slip that he is bringing back Wasteland or someone someday doing justice to a Shadowrun MMO. /fap

[Vatoreus]

fuck i'd spooge for a Shadowrun MMO. i just hope CCP makes a sick ass WoD MMO.

[Drajakur]

Wow! The negativity in this thread, at this point, is actually quite shocking! They haven't even hired/dedicated a staff to the project yet and a lot of you guys are already writing the whole thing off as a huge fuckup or an impossible project. I love a healthy dose of pessimism, but...well, who knows how it is going to play out at this point? Maybe they are going to headhunt a bunch of prime developers; maybe the have really been paying attention to the MMO market and its downturns over the past few years...who the fuck knows? But to say the project is doomed from the start is going too far.

Also, to say that the Fallout IP isn't conducive to a MMO...what the fuck are you talking about!??! The principle reason why Fallout was so great was that the setting and narrative were extremely engaging and the world was so 'life-like' in comparison to other games in the genre. There is serious potentional for a bunch of awesome stuff - clan warfare, resource controlling PvP (not WoW's shitty implementation but stuff with serious ramifications), manufacturing and production arms-races, etc. etc.

Im chalking this negativity up mostly to the 'Brad-effect' but I think the idea itself deserves more excitement than is being shown in this thread.

[Tuco]

Their focus on their previous games has never really been balance. It's been the creation of a cool world and for a specific group of people.

Naturally, that specific group of people (Not MMO players) have thoroughly enjoyed their Elder Scroll games, giving them the chance to have GOTY editions.

In MMO they are smart enough to know how critical balance is as well as gameplay, so perhaps they'll do as well on balance as they have done on world building.

That's all just baseless optimism, but it's no less valid than baseless pessimism. At least give them the chance to fuck it up before you create insults about their game.

Edit: Drajakur and I will be taking our checks now, Bethseda.

[Havelock]

Originally Posted by Eomer

This isn't news, the SEC filing is at least 6 months old. Either myself or someone posted it here originally, and for the most part it was agreed that this is simply Interplay desperately trying to fuck VC's out of their money.

Woody as Fallout makes me, I agree that this MMO is 99.9% vaporware.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Nobody really has faith in developers anymore Tuco. It isn't just the games themselves. And can you blame them?

I'd rather think a game is going to be shit and be pleasantly surprised then get my hopes up and be disappointed for the...10th time?

[Eomer]

Originally Posted by Drajakur

Im chalking this negativity up mostly to the 'Brad-effect' but I think the idea itself deserves more excitement than is being shown in this thread.

I'm chalking it up to Interplay being a terrible company for the better part of the past decade, screwing over it's developers and going tits up despite having some incredibly well selling games and licenses, getting evicted from their offices due to non-payment of their lease and so on. And so far as I know, most of the same people are still in charge. I have zero faith in their ability to produce any video game, because they haven't released any in years. And they figure they've got the werewithal to release a AAA MMO title? I just don't see it happening, or being any good.

But you're right, they could shock everyone and hire competent development staff and release a decent MMO. I just think it's incredibly unlikely given their past performance. Interplay has never made a good game itself, it's typically been other studios working for them (mostly Bioware and Black Isle, which I guess was an Interplay controlled company, but they ran that into the ground as well).

[kasey]

Fallout is the holy grail to many of us, of course nothing short of a team of geniuses and billion-heavy investment gurus doing the funding is good enough for fallout (re: negativity and incapable software companies. I still dont get it, everything seems so easy yet gigantic software companies manage to screw up vital balancing up in such blatant ways that i always ask myself "why does this seem so easy and yet nopbody does it better )

For my part i stopped going to school for almost 2 weeks when i bought fallout. I never evere did that again. Crazy game

[Erronius]

Originally Posted by Druixx

I don't care what anyone else says. The idea of a Fallout MMO makes me hard.

I agree, to an extent - if it is done right, and it comes off well, then I'd spring wood of enormous size. Note that I use the word 'if' here.

My hunch is that most people proclaiming that Fallout shouldn't be used as MMO material are either afraid it will go like so many other MMOs have (Total waste of an IP, and ending up being a joke when compared to the hype), or that people are unwilling to stomach the inevitable changes to the Fallout background that a MMO would precipitate...even though the game is just a glimmer in someones eye at this point. Or both. And I can't really blame them. But maybe I am just more optimistic than some - I'm not ready to run into the night screaming "OMG another VG!" just quite yet.

The only thing I would say at this early a point, is that I hope that if they go through with this that they truly make this a sandbox type deal. Screw raids and that shit - throw people out in a few starting towns, throw in the factions, and let people start their own towns/caves/territories and control areas. I swear I wont touch a Fallout MMO if it ends up being "OK, Chaingunners, burn in 5...4...3..WTF? Quick, shoot it in the eyes and blind him so we have time to get the tank back up". Same with "Ok guys, be on at 8pm so we can kill this guy for the 457th time". I just want to go in and pick fights with other towns, do some quests, find a 'gang' or faction/city to join and kick some ass. I don't want it to be a rip-off of EVEs take on area control, but I'd much rather pick sides and PvP my neighbors, possibly expanding territory and resources (with occasional farming or questing), instead of questing/raiding/factioning for hours on end. The game screams PVP...I hope that is the main focus.

I think that a Fallout FPS would be easier to make and implement, but if someone wants to make an MMO, than I wish them all the luck in the world. I just hope it doesnt become another brick in the pyramid of MMO mediocrity thats currently being built as the next Wonder of the World.

[Hatorade]

Fallout MMO would have to be focused on PVP. I can see it now humans mutants and whatever other factions they want to throw in there. Battling for the few cities left standing.