WAR Closed Beta has started!

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Dashal

WoW doesnt need to revamp its graphics. It's fine imo. Tweaks and updates sure.

Sup?

[Mogley]

Originally Posted by Steamrice

Butt ugly textures FTL. This is probably the first time I've seen a WAR video in higher res. The other small ones did a nice job with hiding HORRIBLE textures. And the world looks quite flat in details.

I know it's still in beta but how are they supposed to test performance when everything looks like that? I even heard they've only accepted people with high-end machines and that is far from needing one.

For some reason they are still letting sites show videos with low-rez textures. Compare the textures in this screenshot to the same area about a third of the way into this video.

On performance, they've said many times that they are still working on the lighting engine and shaders. There's no point trying to test performance until all the graphic options are available.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I'll be perfectly happy if they keep it on the slower side. 2 second GC sounds a bit much, but it has to be better than AOC's tendinitis-inducing fast-paced button-mashing.

This is a classic example of why there's an NDA. A few people keep repeating the 2 second GCD as fact, nevermind that Digo pointed out how and why it is wrong a few pages back.

[Senen]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

You know what'd be super awesome, if Blizzard has a WoW 2.0 engine in the works and releases it a week before WAR comes out. That would be so god damn hilarious I think my head would explode.

Except WoW would still be the same old tired shit ya I went there... zing!

[Jabberwhacky]

Fine I'll add the caveat of 1 new BG. There, WoW holds on to its 80 billion subs and WAR sees nutzing. NUTZING!!

[Furism]

Originally Posted by Ninajrr

Bleh, played with the WoW options and all I can say is you're a lying faggot. Yes, it let me change the view distance, but the fog distance is capped at godsofuckingshort that it doesn't help at all.

You need to use command lines because the WoW UI doesn't let you set to maximum or don't even show some parameters of the engine.

The WAR engine is not final yet (although they upgraded with dynamic lightning a few weeks ago - something WoW engine doesn't have) and I'm sure there'll be a way to push the fog much farther than we currently can.

[Tred]

With all this engine talk it reminds me of the one thing that I LOVED about every DAoC expansion. Upgraded engine graphics that were optional. That's the one thing I wish WoW would do. Give the option for better graphics instead of that bullshit "no ones ever done it right" or whatever reason they gave for not updating the graphics.

[Snugglebear]

Yeah, I hope WoW doesn't do any graphics overhauls. They need to concentrate on putting shitty in-game voice chat into the client. :P

[Mist]

Originally Posted by Itzena

Sup?

What's that from?

[Itzena]

Dynamic shadows from the F&F WotLK alpha.

[Kheldin]

Birdie told me that guild beta keys went out today...

[Senen]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

Fine I'll add the caveat of 1 new BG. There, WoW holds on to its 80 billion subs and WAR sees nutzing. NUTZING!!

Its just a matter of time till WoW turns into EQ sub wise. All WoW did was help MMO's become more Mainstream so far they haven't done anything innovative. Taking pieces of the pie from other games that did it first and better. Just like EQ became dated so will WoW and will all scurry to the next MMo with a new story line and better eye candy. The only thing that helps keep WoW going is the fact that you can play it on the same PC that could play EQ 7 years ago. I know its hard to imagine theres that many cheap bastards out there that wont upgrade to a decent system, but thats what I believe helps them along.

[Jabberwhacky]

Well if the only thing that keeps WoW going is that you can play it on a 7 year old computer, why doesn't EQ and DAoC and AO and AC and AC2 and UO and whatever other MMO's came out back then have so many subs? WoW is clearly bringing more to the table than an easy-to-run engine. I'm not defending WoW per se; I think it's abhorrent that Blizzard has done so very little with so very much (lore, revenue, player-base, etc).

[Zubei]

WoW is a kiddy MMO, and by that I mean its very easy to pick up, play, and level. That's just my opinion however.

[Mist]

Originally Posted by Itzena

Dynamic shadows from the F&F WotLK alpha.

Excellent, didn't see that anywhere before. That's the one thing WoW has been needing for a really long time.

[Senen]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

Well if the only thing that keeps WoW going is that you can play it on a 7 year old computer, why doesn't EQ and DAoC and AO and AC and AC2 and UO and whatever other MMO's came out back then have so many subs? WoW is clearly bringing more to the table than an easy-to-run engine. I'm not defending WoW per se; I think it's abhorrent that Blizzard has done so very little with so very much (lore, revenue, player-base, etc).

This is realy simple one WoW hasn't been out near as long as EQ so it hasn't had a chance to experience attrition on that scale yet. Secondly WoW isn't directly comparable to EQ since WoW was basicly the break out point sub wise. If you want to put in EQ terms I'd be suprised if WoW has 3 Mil subs within the next 2 years. That would be a good parallel considering starting points for each. I just don't see it holding that far realy with whats due out and people naturaly burn out and tech by then will be so far beyond WoW.

Blizzard will have to release its next major MMO to keep the status quo that its become accustomed to. I had alot of fun times in WoW, but alot of the direct comparisons between WoW/WaR are the same shit that were hashed around here 5 years ago between Eq/WoW. So nothings realy changed same shit diffrent day MMO's are more alike then they will ever be diffrent, it just seems some people can't seem to grasp that this will never change.