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Old 06-16-2007, 12:16 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I hope to fucking hell it doesnt mimic wow's armor setup. I rather have the old EQ loot than everyone do X dungeon for X tier item and the result is everyone looking like one another. Last thing i want is to raid and look like every other bard on server that has been in the zone. Armor sets are nice but leaves no real room for individuality, and not like theirs specs to use either so it would just be like an army of Agent Smiths by class...
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah the name is kind of odd. Hopefully it's a placeholder development name.
I heard "Fabled Walmart Loading Dock" was going to be the second raid zone offered in the re-release.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah the name is kind of odd. Hopefully it's a placeholder development name.
It's not that bad - it fits with the overall feel of the world. Rather that than some abstract 'fantasy' name that means nothing. Vanguard has a nicer mix IMO.

Whatever.

Good update, if they can follow thru with it. Folks saying Vanguard would be good in a few monthes may be right after all.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:59 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Brad can you comment plz ?
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Brad can you comment plz ?
No. No. No. NO! NO! NO! HELL NO!
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Brad can you comment plz ?
He can comment, but probably like anyone else here, as an outsider. Like he knows what the fuck is going on.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ancient Port Warehouse has been there since the game released iirc. I did some leveling there in the high 40's but only in the outdoor areas. It was a decent spot to duo with my Psionicist friend since you could charm the .... pirates... or whatever the humans there are.

I also remember a ginormous 6 dot named blue asian crab there I was excited at the time to find.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ancient Port Warehouse has been there since the game released iirc. I did some leveling there in the high 40's but only in the outdoor areas. It was a decent spot to duo with my Psionicist friend since you could charm the .... pirates... or whatever the humans there are.

I also remember a ginormous 6 dot named blue asian crab there I was excited at the time to find.
Crab is kind of like Lodizal in EQ. He's supposed to get some love soon and get beefed up. Crab is freaking huge.lol
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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They could literally turn it around for Vanguard!
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:00 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Does'nt this read a lot like the first 6 months of the "Fixing EQ2 Saga"? Trial Island, figuring what computers in Present Time can take, etc.
Question is if Vanguard will ever be a good game. EQ2 has recovered, it is a great game. Sure it needs tweaks and fixes like any game, but it is still a great game.

I highly doubt Vanguard can or will ever recover.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:05 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I hope to fucking hell it doesnt mimic wow's armor setup. I rather have the old EQ loot than everyone do X dungeon for X tier item and the result is everyone looking like one another. Last thing i want is to raid and look like every other bard on server that has been in the zone. Armor sets are nice but leaves no real room for individuality, and not like theirs specs to use either so it would just be like an army of Agent Smiths by class...
I totally agree. I definitely miss looking different than other people and each piece of armor looking different/having different color represented something else. I hated when they added dyes in EQ, and WoW is worse with everybody looking the same for the same tiers.

EQ did have set items, but they were rare enough that most people only had a few pieces, and they were okay with it, they didn't "need" to have the whole set, because there were many other options.

I remember looking at Barbarian Warriors who had 5-6 different colors on in Velious. They represented being badass, because you knew they had beyond ToV armor and had named loot. You would see a couple pieces of dark blue ToV loot, but overall it was a mix, and you could name the items they were wearing. But it didn't mean everyone looked like eachother, because there was such a huge variety.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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no instance,less people with the same armor/weapon. Instances zones, everyone is going to look the same.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:49 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Does'nt this read a lot like the first 6 months of the "Fixing EQ2 Saga"? Trial Island, figuring what computers in Present Time can take, etc.
I don't think that is a valid comparison. EQ2 had a hill to climb but it was more like the little one at the end of my cul de sac. By comparison, Vanguard has to climb Mt. Everest without good gear.

If I were to put real money on it, I would bet they will not make it. It is really a shame.

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Old 06-20-2007, 07:22 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Question is if Vanguard will ever be a good game. EQ2 has recovered, it is a great game. Sure it needs tweaks and fixes like any game, but it is still a great game.

I highly doubt Vanguard can or will ever recover.
I dont doubt it *could* be a great game. In theory you can pretty much change everything in the game, which they basically did mid development heh. I dont know if it ever will be great, and even if it is I dont know that it would attract a lot of people.
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Old 06-20-2007, 12:44 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Did any of you even play EQ2 at release? I did, stuck it out for a few months too. It was such a shitpile, and so much worse than Vanguard is now that there is no comparison. The variety of content for any given level was pathetic, tons of quests were broken, tons of skills downright didn't work, loot was meaningless, performance was horrid, and lots of the upper level content was broken. Hmm... sounds a bit like Vanguard, but at least Vanguard launched with a bigger world with more premiere dungeons and variety. That, and loot actually means something. EQ2 has had what, nearly 3 years of updates and expansions?
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