[EQ2] The Ultimate Newb Thread

[Lost Ranger]

Not to offend anyone but if your interested in coming back to EQ2 to be a serious player then you should avoid Mistwalkers even when RoK comes out. Good people I am sure but they are a "fad" guild if ever there was one. They seem to do well when something new and exciting hits EQ2 then once the "new car smell" has worn off the majority of them just vanish.

If you want to play EQ actively for longer then a month then I would recommend going to your servers main forums and looking at the guild progression thread that most seem to have. Can find a casual or hardcore guild fairly easy that way. Also using the ingame guild function can be useful too.

[The Hiram Key]

Originally Posted by Lost Ranger

Not to offend anyone but if your interested in coming back to EQ2 to be a serious player then you should avoid Mistwalkers even when RoK comes out. Good people I am sure but they are a "fad" guild if ever there was one. They seem to do well when something new and exciting hits EQ2 then once the "new car smell" has worn off the majority of them just vanish.

If you want to play EQ actively for longer then a month then I would recommend going to your servers main forums and looking at the guild progression thread that most seem to have. Can find a casual or hardcore guild fairly easy that way. Also using the ingame guild function can be useful too.

Fad guild is such a nice way of putting it

[Bloodfrost]

Play the Fae trial download page seems to be broken atm can't get it to download at all. Keep getting a IE error on it. So gonna try the ToI one anywho see how it goes.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Lost Ranger

Not to offend anyone but if your interested in coming back to EQ2 to be a serious player then you should avoid Mistwalkers even when RoK comes out. Good people I am sure but they are a "fad" guild if ever there was one. They seem to do well when something new and exciting hits EQ2 then once the "new car smell" has worn off the majority of them just vanish.

If you want to play EQ actively for longer then a month then I would recommend going to your servers main forums and looking at the guild progression thread that most seem to have. Can find a casual or hardcore guild fairly easy that way. Also using the ingame guild function can be useful too.

Definitely true, and I was one of those "fad" people, desperately trying to get into EQ2 for about the 15th time. Unfortunately, the game is just so damn hideously BOOOORING that it didn't work out.

As to Mistwalkers, I'm sure about 500 members of this forum had been through the guild at some point over the past 6 months or so. Besides the fact that the game is BOOOOORING, which led to about 80% of the turnover, Braene got stuck being married soon after the guild got going, and Cuppy definitely isn't guild officer/leader material (not to be mean, but the first night on guild Vent, I was looking up the EQ2 "/guildquit" command).

Some amazingly good players and just downright good people went through that guild, and it was a great experience. Heck, I don't know THK (Hella) in real life (and I'd never knowingly associate with somebody who says they're voting for Hillary Clinton anyways), but I feel bad for the countless hundreds of hours he put into trying to make Mistwalkers a success. I salute and thank you, sir!

It sure would be nice to get most of the old Mistwalkers gang together in WoW until "the next game" comes along. I know Braene and others are in Final Fantasy now, but I think that most FoH posters/readers aren't really interested in that one (I know I'm not).

As to the OP, I'd give EQ2 a shot until you get a level 70. Then you'll have a character to explore RoK with, at least.


- Gretlein Sweetcookie, 70 Halfling Coercer, Mistwalkers, AB, EQ2 (retired)
- That Undead Mage raining Blizzards on the nicely-bunched-up Alliance in an AV near you (until "the next big game")

[Azzikai]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

Definitely true, and I was one of those "fad" people, desperately trying to get into EQ2 for about the 15th time. Unfortunately, the game is just so damn hideously BOOOORING that it didn't work out.

I want to like EQ2. I really, really do. After a few months, though, I just can't stand it anymore. I know I'm not alone in that nor am I alone in not having one big issue that I can point at and say "this, right here, this is why I don't play". It is a good game, I do believe that, but it lacks a certain quality that keeps me playing.

It was fun leveling to 70 and I know it will be fun leveling to 80 in Kunark. What happens at the level cap, though, that's obviously just not my thing. Pity, the nostalgia (and my Ratonga army) are great.

Mistwalkers did have some great people. How it was structured and ran, at times, didn't do it any favors in the long run. Still, it was fun and I honestly believe that Mistwalkers was the reason why people stayed playing EQ2 as long as they did. Without that guild and the people in it, I doubt many would have lasted beyond their first week. With all the work that was actually put into the guild it is kinda sad to see it fade (even if I did leave the guild before I quit).

[Penalty]

is anyone else having trouble subscribing to this game??

I tried used my credit card through the 'new and improved' station account manager and it gives me an error every time I try and complete the payment..

emailed sony and was told it was on my end, but my friend is having the exact same problem also.. we tried to buy game cards at all the local electronic stores but they all said that they had stopped receiving time cards from sony probably an attempt to drive people to buy directly from sony's site, if only it actually worked.

checked over on the forums and there seems to be a few threads about it, with no official word from sony as to what the problem is.

[Genjiro]

Board guilds aren't going to be successful, Mistwalkers had no real identity and was lacking in leadership. There were a few nice folks there, and a lot of people who were rather noobish, but I guess thats to be expected in a guild that is set up like that. Let's be honest, that guild being a successful raiding guild with quality players was a pipe dream. That said, guys like Manowarr, Kottin, THK, Azzikai etc were people I would have enjoyed raiding with.

Braen, not so much, as that dude seemed rather clueless as to what it takes to make a guild successful and was a giant ego who tried to come off as the internet tough guy. Expecting some sort of loyalty and quality in a guild who zerg recruits is like going to a public orgy and expecting to come out of it with no STDs and bagging a wife at the same time. Completely fucking unrealistic, and getting upset with guys like Manowarr for leaving was idiotic. Regardless of all that, it still sucks that EQ2 is such a bad game as far as gameplay goes. If the game had simply followed the lead of EQ1 with better graphics, without all the stupid shit at launch it would have been in a much better place. There is a reason there was so much nostalgia for EQ1, the game was fun to a lot of people.

[Man0warr]

I didn't know Braen was mad I left, /shrug. I didn't see the guild getting caught up to everyone else before Kunark (which is what I personally wanted to do) so I left and joined a guild where I could see all that content before Kunark came out.

[Kuro]

I'm spending more time farming for and/or playing Legends of Norrath than actual playing EQ2 for EQ2.

Frickin card game is addictive

[Miele]

EQ2 certainly has a huge player retention problem, in my small guild environment I experienced it several times already and it's quite frustrating to see people quit, hell I'd rather see them move to another guild instead.
I don't know what it is, maybe the combat system which seems to be the one to get the blame more often, for sure people do not stick to EQ2 for long.
My guess is that the combat system alone is responsible for this issue and it's too late to change it radically, so it's a moot point.

I find more fun doing stuff for the first time in EQ2 than heading into instance_09 for the Nth time and get wood chests again.
It pisses me off to no end, hours of clearing trash and nameds dropping shit.
Are they afraid of players getting loot? This happens at all levels, like an uber lvl 40 item could pose any problem to the game balance. At 70 the situation gets worse and worse, borderline ridicolous when a trash mob drops an exquisite and the named a wooden chest.

[Arrr]

Are they afraid of players getting loot?

at 70, it definitely feels like it. gg raid mobs dropping ONE ITEM. I don't even care if it's "smart loot". I'd take wow's "crapshoot" loot system as long as mobs dropped 3 items per kill.

The sheer amount of time it takes to get weapons to drop (at the raid level) is, imo, a bit of a problem. especially given how retardedly large the dps difference can be.

[Braen]

Internet tough guy? wow. I never though of myself as that. And I wasn't upset specifically at Hime. I was hoping the guild could become more than it was. Wishfull thinking? Probably, but I never though it was a bad thing to hope for more. I was hoping the "LOL Board Guild" could be something more than it was. Hell, many successful guilds were built on a few core people and many random people to fill int he blanks. The difference being "board" people are already MMO vets that can see were the grass is greener in other games and tend to have little patience with a games weaknesses. I didn't think me wanting more out fo guildies, was "internet tough".

Hime, I wasn't "internet angry" at you. I was upset that as people started raiding together and having a good time, people who said they were having a great time just up and split. No warning. Again, I had no problem with YOU Hime, I would have invited you to raids, when we were raiding, if we needed an extra.

Now I admit, I didn't have the time to dedicate to leading a guild, I was hoping to find a couple of dedicate good leaders to help me out in that, and for a while it worked well. I still don't have time to lead and really have no interest anymore in leading or starting another guild again. I would rather take my limited play schedule (due to my job, new wife and soon to be new child) and play a game as a player, not an organizer.

Hell, MMOs just don't do it really for me anymore. Spending hours a night clearing zone after zone for a chance at some piece that might be a slight upgrade. I would rather play on my 360 nowadays. Those damn achievements have replaced my need for better gear. Games like Bioshock, Mass Effect, Ghost Recon hold my interest more now. Playing with co workers and local friends on Ghost Recon, Halo 3 and other 360 multiplayer games gives me more fun than getting on at raid time to wait 30 minutes to an hour for people to get to the raid spot.

Was I a good leader, probably not. Did I give people a place to check out a game I love and still do love, yes. Many people have left Mistwalkers to play in other guilds every night. I hope that all the people joined Mistwalkers (which is still around with people playing every night, just not as many as there used to be), enjoyed the people we recruited from the server and various boards, enjoyed the groups and limited raiding we did. I know that for the most part, I had a blast.

I will probably pop back in EQ2 for RoK when it releases, but again, just as a player. I will let other, more internet tough people, lead.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Braen

Spending hours a night clearing zone after zone for a chance at some piece that might be a slight upgrade.

I will probably pop back in EQ2 for RoK when it releases, but again, just as a player. I will let other, more internet tough people, lead.

This "chance" thing is a good reason to level up a 70 (or 19, 29, 39, 49, or 60 for other BGs) and do Battlegrounds in WoW until "the next game" or EQ2:RoK comes out. You put in the time, and you know you'll eventually earn enough points to buy the good gear. Besides, slaughtering hundreds of Night Elves and Humans every night is very good for the soul*.

I'll see you in RoK, Braene. It would be nice to be in the same guild there, but quite honestly I'll probably just play long enough to get to 80, see the one art theme for the raiding zones, then quit back to WoW/WAR/AoC. Hella was right about the "time" thing of being a guild leader though, and I'm sure you now recognize that. If you're not going to be on every night, all night - or at least nearly so - being a "raid guild" leader just isn't going to work out. Of course, trying to do this in a game that is BOOOOORING just makes the work about a hundred times harder.




*Obviously this was a joke, since I realize that you - and most of the rest in Mistwalkers - are extreme PvE'ers with no desire to PvP.


EDIT: I didn't really spend enough time in EQ2/Mistwalkers to really get to know Braene, but you meanies obviously haven't tried running guilds in these games. I'd be honored to be a fellow guildmate and friend of Braene's in "the next game", thank you very much (as long as it's PvE only, since he's a horrible carebear. Hah!).

[Man0warr]

I'm playing EQ2 like 3 nights a week just to raid, and other than that I'm leveling a new char up to 75 in FFXI. I also have a level 70 char in WoW with T5 gear - I will buy all 3 new expansions for each game, and I wanted to be prepared and try them all out.

I'm having alot of fun in FFXI right now but RoK looks very promising - WoW probably will be a bust, I can never raid 5-6 nights a week again like my old guild would need me too, and WoW just isn't a game you can play after you have done hardcore raiding in it for 3 years and can't anymore.

[Sinter1]

I'm impressed you lasted 3 years raiding in WoW

Personally I never got the whole internet tough guy vibe from Braen, but hey to each his own. I've popped back in from time to time and want to get to 65+ before Kunark comes back to experience that stuff, but who knows if I have the willpower to do so. The mid 50's just fucking suck in that game.