Rumor - SOE to purchase VG?

[Hachima]

Originally Posted by redjunkopera

Selling VG to SOE is literally like selling your soul to the devil for that large segment of people who would ever give VG a try.

All 15 of them? The huge market of people that have played MMOs and might potentially give VG a try, don't care one bit about SOE or who Brad is.


It's been over three months and there is still no raid content at all in game. I'll be adding my account to the canceled list until there is actually an endgame in place.

My guess is that they don't have the money to employ both a live team and an expansion team. They were saving a ton of the raid content that should have been included in release and will include it with an expansion instead. The sell of the expansion would have paid for the employees needed to work on the raid content. The problem is subs are way too low to even support this model. So the only thing left is for SOE to come bail them out.

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

This one is even better Neric.

YouTube - Vanguard: Saga of Heroes - Launch Event Interview

Jackpot.

[Bobleclair]

Originally Posted by redjunkopera

Like 95% of the people who would ever be interested in VG have an ingrained hatred of SOE and all the sloppy fuck-uppery that comes with them running an MMO (Sorry again EQ2, lol).

Selling VG to SOE is literally like selling your soul to the devil for that large segment of people who would ever give VG a try.

MAYBE, SOE could turn VG around... give it the love and attention it needs to recuperate and prove to the hardcore world that it has reformed itself; But mostly likely they will merge servers, cut CS, then tie VG up in it's bedroom so it doesn't wander off, and slowly let it die through neglect whilst cashing it's social security checks, and selling off it's prescriptions on the street.

Huh? did you not hear that SOE is publishing VG allready all the retarded blind SOE haters left the boat long ago.
The only fear for VG players is that, if SoE buy VG, they get ride of the Sigil dev team (wich i seriously doubt) and add new devs that don't have a single clue about the code, then it will take them months to figure out everything and the game will suffer a lot from it.

[Malkav]

Originally Posted by Bobleclair

Huh? did you not hear that SOE is publishing VG allready all the retarded blind SOE haters left the boat long ago.
The only fear for VG players is that, if SoE buy VG, they get ride of the Sigil dev team (wich i seriously doubt) and add new devs that don't have a single clue about the code, then it will take them months to figure out everything and the game will suffer a lot from it.

Well seeing that the EQ2 team worked on VG the last month before release, trying to fix it as much as possible before release, SOE has already some people that know Sigil code.

[Bobleclair]

Yeah but one month for a many years project is not much, and i doubt they worked on the main codes mostly little stuff here and there.

[Neric]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

This one is even better Neric.

Very nice!

Most impressive is that Butler kept a straight face during the whole interview knowing exactly that lighting could strike him in the ass every second.

Seriously, the guy is either a phoney liar and pretty good at it, or he must have totally lost his grip on reality. There is no other explanation for such a display of confidence in this piece of shit.

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Bobleclair

Yeah but one month for a many years project is not much, and i doubt they worked on the main codes mostly little stuff here and there.

And just what 'main code' would they work on now? The game kinda works as it is.. it just need creative ideas and tweaks. Besides, if they absorb Sigil, it's likely they will keep some of the better talent on staff to continue work on the game.

[Havelock]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Talk about the ultimate betrayal to your loyal fan base Brad. I am not sure who is spinning this situation into a positive for you so you don't jump out the fucking window, but it's not. There is nothing positive, or "ultimately" positive about Vanguard beta, it's launch, it's "pre-aquisition" by SOE, or now it's "complete" aquisition by SOE.

There IS NO ultimate positive. NONE.

Engaging in a little hyperbole, are we? The ultimate betrayal would be more along the lines of taking the game down, with "turning it into an MMO FPS" a close second. If the game has to get sold for business reasons, that sucks, but it's how this crazy capitalism thing works. Aside from which, all those things you list are positive in that they let the game come to market and stay there - given the choice between problematically-implemented Vanguard and non-existent Mythica, 9 out of 10 players will choose the former.

[Kaylena]

Originally Posted by Neric

It'll be either a typical McQuaid twist trying to turn selling out to SoE into a great archievement or a big "ROFL, we fooled you all". Since it's supposed to be "complicated", the first option is way more likely.

It sounds complicated but I wouldn't doubt that this was decided already from the moment MS backed out and SOE came in. Public reaction was a concern, so they needed to take it in stages. But I don't look at it as a developement. Planned is more likely, IMO.

[Broham]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

This one is even better Neric.

YouTube - Vanguard: Saga of Heroes - Launch Event Interview

"Denial is a river in Egypt" - JB

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Kaylena

It sounds complicated but I wouldn't doubt that this was decided already from the moment MS backed out and SOE came in. Public reaction was a concern, so they needed to take it in stages. But I don't look at it as a developement. Planned is more likely, IMO.

Bingo!

[Neric]

Originally Posted by Kaylena

It sounds complicated but I wouldn't doubt that this was decided already from the moment MS backed out and SOE came in. Public reaction was a concern, so they needed to take it in stages. But I don't look at it as a developement. Planned is more likely, IMO.

Yes, it is possible but I doubt it. You know why? Because I give McQuaid at least that much credit that he didn't intend to go that low. I mean planning such a move and then leaking it slowly piece for piece in such a way would be a bit too much. For me he is more like the naive daydreamer type of guy, not the nasty bastard who sells his own grandmother.

[Twobit Whore]

It's quite possible that there was some clause.. that if by X day Sigil hadn't made Y money or got Z subs, then restructuring would have to take place.

I'm sure Brad, with his Texas-sixed ego, couldn't even fathom that Vanguard would flop.. so he eagerly agreed to it.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Neric

Yes, it is possible but I doubt it. You know why? Because I give McQuaid at least that much credit that he didn't intend to go that low. I mean planning such a move and then leaking it slowly piece for piece in such a way would be a bit too much.

I never bought into the bullshit that SOE was merely going to "co-publish", for nothing more than a percentage of the subs that came in through the station access plan. The game was destined to become EQ3 the moment that deal was made. The only undetermined factor was when SOE would assume enough creative control to bring it to fruition.

[Punko]

Originally Posted by Neric

Yes, it is possible but I doubt it. You know why? Because I give McQuaid at least that much credit that he didn't intend to go that low. I mean planning such a move and then leaking it slowly piece for piece in such a way would be a bit too much. For me he is more like the naive daydreamer type of guy, not the nasty bastard who sells his own grandmother.

To me, him appearing as one rather then the other, might be his only talent