Anti-Gold Spam mod

[Erty]

Well I can't argue with you there, I agree that buying gold is bad for the game. But as I said earlier that doesn't seem to be the only problem people have with gold buying, and it was those other things that I tried to point out as stupid.

[Zerai]

Oh come on, the best time for players was before blizzard started banning millions of accounts. Do you remember the days of 5 major heal for 5g? Yeah, those farmers were awesome. Gold was cheap, but so was stuff on the AH, it was great.

[Malakie Torsade]

It's the confessional thread!

Originally Posted by Feduke

my wow account recently got banned reason listed "Linked to accounts found exploiting the Warcraft economy"

Totally late replying, but yeah you are almost certainly screwed. I did the same thing and got smacked (didn't read anything about making a trash account until like 3 days later... oopsy!) I fought with their account admins for weeks but no luck. There was another thing or 2 I was considering trying, but highly doubt it'll work. Anyhow, I feel your pain as I had tons of play time invested too (though I know what I did was wrong, I've done my hail Mary's, yadda yadda yadda.) It's actually been a good thing though as now I focus more on things that I should be putting my attention toward. The all mighty Lord Blizzard works in mysterious ways, my child!

On a related note, pray you never have to deal with the account admins for any reason. They are slow as shit to respond (6-14 days,) have no phone number, give you nothing but copy/paste replies, don't have their facts straight, and apparently can only answeri 1 of your issues per email as they will totally ignore anything you ask over the 1 question limit. My personal favorite was them telling me "As we mentioned before, you were banned for X" (don't even remember what they said now) when they had never mentioned that ever.

As for Blizzard doing anything to stop gold sellers... don't count on it. Why would they? It's a big money maker for them. Hell, in one of my post-ban emails they flat out told me that they were perfectly ok with me buying another box. They will continue to make token bannings and thump their chest in the occasional press release while rolling in cash as many banees buy another box. I hate to get into conspiracy theories and all that, but it would not surprise me in the least to find out many design decisions are pushed simply to keep the demand for gold sellers high (see epic mount costs, high repair costs, high cost of raiding despite months and months of players bitching, etc.)

[GuardianX]

This whole topic is a moot point of people trying to justify their gold buying ways and others saying to string them up.

Its totally lost its original intent (to inform the readers of a gold spammer ignore mod) and degraded to a mud (and what else) slinging competition.

The arguement of "I'm playing the game the way I WANT to play it" is totally moot if you are breaking the rules of the game to have your fun. We have had way too many examples given in this thread to warrant another. If you are too self-delusioned to see past your own wants then maybe a MMO isn't for you.

I am starting to agree more and more with the poster that sugested leaving the gold selling accounts alone and simply banning their customers. Unfortunately I know that blizzard, for the most part, will never do this because it would hurt their bottom line in a larger way than just banning the seller's accounts. Ban the seller, he comes back in X days with a new account that he purchased. Ban the Buyer, he may never come back and thats lost business.

The funny part through all of this is, that if they banned all their gold buyers, they would have to re-evaluate the game model / economy because they allowed it to be F'd up too easily and without a real attempt at stopping it.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Erty

Well I can't argue with you there, I agree that buying gold is bad for the game. But as I said earlier that doesn't seem to be the only problem people have with gold buying, and it was those other things that I tried to point out as stupid.

As stupid as they may be, they're still no justification in breaking the rules of the game, and indirectly affecting the game negatively for many other players. I don't like spending exhorbant amounts of time farming to remain competetive any more than anyone else.

But within the confines of the games rules, my time is no more valuable than anyone elses. Anyone putting such a high value on thier personal time that they're willing to cheat at thier hobby to save more of it for "more important things", needs to better utilise that time in endeavors far more important than mmos.

[Punko]

Working brings in more gold an hour then farming, if you spend the money on gold. Hence working is the most productive way of farming.

I don't play WoW, never have, but you guys are a bunch of total idiots if you think I wouldn't buy some gold to guarantee a smooth start rather then farm rats.

Since when did this board turn into the general care convention by the way ?

I don't give a shit how your game is affected, I want to have fun in my time outside work, in whatever way I see suiteable. Farming is a bullshit mechanic, and it is only just that people with the ability to skip it do so.

I guess it sucks for the people that play 15 hours a day, don't have a job, do have a shitty RL, and still end up with less gold then someone who actually works, but I don't sympathise with those 15 hour a day suckers. Not anymore anyway, gotten to old.

Last time I checked, noone had to "defend" their purchases of gold. A little personal freedom is all we have, and this thread is full of shitheads that can't accept that. Warn the FBI and Interpol ! Seriously, go fuck yourself, whiney cunts

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Punko

Last time I checked, noone had to "defend" their purchases of gold. A little personal freedom is all we have, and this thread is full of shitheads that can't accept that. Warn the FBI and Interpol ! Seriously, go fuck yourself, whiney cunts

Ooh.... a real, honest to goodness e-Tough guy. Can I have your autograph?

A little personal freedom? LOL... you're kidding right? My bet is, if you DID play WoW, and you DID buy gold, you'd keep that shit to yourself so the rest of your guild wouldn't find out what a useless piece of shit you are. Because in reality, any guild thats busted thier asses to be first at something, would NEVER want that shit marred by some gold buying douchebag. They know they'd be the laughing stock of thier server, and every achievement they ever accomplished would be questionable.

No one has to defend buying gold eh? Yeah, because last time you checked, no one that matters ever admits it in game. You can go DIAF now.

[Cor]

I couldn't tell if Rayne's post was serious or not. Pretty much every high end guild [in Europe anyway] buys gold in vast quantities. It doesn't change people's perceptions of their achievements though.

[Kolle]

for me it taints anything they do, but it's not as if i'm gonna go nerd rage on them. i do hold blizzard partly responsible for not doing something by now. they've had plenty of time to change things and haven't. if they wanted to make it so raiders didn't feel like they had to buy gold to raid then they could have.

[Cor]

I can definately see why you feel that way. I went a long time without buying gold -- did my best not to as I saw it as immoral. I finally gave up when I couldn't face another trip round the plaguelands trying to pick up that last herb I needed for the raid that night. It got to the point where I was spending my entire weekend farming so that I'd have a raid spot available. Buying gold allowed me to do something with my time off.

A lot of people in my guild felt the same way. People who didn't buy gold were a tiny minority.

There was one guy who was pretty crazy though. He farmed over 1500 frost protection potions before Naxx was even released. Really gotta love grinding to do something like that.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Kolle

for me it taints anything they do, but it's not as if i'm gonna go nerd rage on them. i do hold blizzard partly responsible for not doing something by now. they've had plenty of time to change things and haven't. if they wanted to make it so raiders didn't feel like they had to buy gold to raid then they could have.

Blizzard isn't partly responsible. They're fully responsible. But that isn't the point. The point is, they could make every mob drop stacks of mats to make farming as quick and painless as possible, and half these lazy fuckers complaining about having to "waste thier precious time" farming, would STILL complain about it. Because to them, thier time is so valuable, that ANY farming at all is a waste of that time.

When your time becomes so valuable that you need to cheat, its time to reconsider how you utilise that time. I find it amazing how many assholes think they should "get paid" for thier "leisure time", simply because they have a limited amount of it.

[Zerai]

Originally Posted by Rayne

Blizzard isn't partly responsible. They're fully responsible. But that isn't the point. The point is, they could make every mob drop stacks of mats to make farming as quick and painless as possible, and half these lazy fuckers complaining about having to "waste thier precious time" farming, would STILL complain about it. Because to them, thier time is so valuable, that ANY farming at all is a waste of that time.

When your time becomes so valuable that you need to cheat, its time to reconsider how you utilise that time. I find it amazing how many assholes think they should "get paid" for thier "leisure time", simply because they have a limited amount of it.

I think you're stretching a little bit. Sure, there will always be some, but the vast majority of people who buy gold now wouldn't if they didn't have to. If I could have viably farmed stuff that wasn't as painful as putting a nail through my dick, I would have done it. Think of the MC days, the top guilds made money by raiding MC, I know our guild had a couple hardcore motherfucker farmers, but we also had some really good AH players who handled the guild bank. Compare that to Naxx. Naxx barely leveled out repair costs let alone consumables.

And tarnishing your guild image? Ha. Maybe in EQ, but not in WoW.

[Ravvenn]

I'm too lazy to read every post, so sorry in advance if this was covered. Does this mod (or any mod) work for the renter spammers? I get more spam from people trying to 'rent' my character than from gold sellers/buyers. They all doctor their links/words now (like the viagra/v14gr4 email spam that gets through Exchange filters), I guess to try and sneak past spam mods.

It's normally 1-2 spam tells every 5 minutes.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Zerai

I think you're stretching a little bit. Sure, there will always be some, but the vast majority of people who buy gold now wouldn't if they didn't have to. If I could have viably farmed stuff that wasn't as painful as putting a nail through my dick, I would have done it. Think of the MC days, the top guilds made money by raiding MC, I know our guild had a couple hardcore motherfucker farmers, but we also had some really good AH players who handled the guild bank. Compare that to Naxx. Naxx barely leveled out repair costs let alone consumables.

And tarnishing your guild image? Ha. Maybe in EQ, but not in WoW.

Hence, my use of the word "half". No serious guild would ever tolerate cheapening thier accomplishments. And playing the AH is well within the rules of the game. Its certainly not the same as buying gold. The guilds that tolerate gold buying are those that simply can't work together, because individual members put thier own desires ahead of everyone elses. Are you saying that 25-40 guild members working together to finance thier raiding endeavors without resorting to cheating is unreasonable? Or impossible?

And if you think that a serious guild wouldn't jump at the opportunity to make a guild of cheaters look like complete losers, you're playing a different WoW than I am. They'd be strung up on the official forums for all to laugh at.

[Cor]

The guilds that tolerate gold buying are those that simply can't work together, because individual members put thier own desires ahead of everyone elses.

Are you honestly that naive?