Nino...One of the upsides of VG.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Originally Posted by woqqqa

Is this like that Calvin and Hobbes strip where they all have to go on a camping trip, it rains the whole week and Calvin's dad keeps trying to get Calvin to do "outdoorsy" stuff because it builds character?

Calvin's dad was a douche. 8( I'd totally kong his mom though. Fiesty one she was. I bet she gives a awesome fucking BJ.

[tad10]

Originally Posted by woqqqa

But if the middle of nowhere has nothing actually there, what's the point? Or have they begun adding content since last I played (some 3 weeks back)? If not, it's just a time sink.

I take it you're not the exploring type. The point is just to get there first and check out the sights.

[rinthea]

Yeah I agree that travel on Qalia is fine, and travel on Thestra is FUBAR. It would be nice to have some sort of rail system happening like in WoW instead of teleporters, but Thestra needs to be functional first.

[woqqqa]

Originally Posted by tad10

I take it you're not the exploring type. The point is just to get there first and check out the sights.

Well, I used to be. But after seeing tons of empty land with little or nothing there, I'm a bit burnt out on it. It would be far better if they added some content. Nothing extensive, mind you...just a hidden town, small area with some special named mob or something along those lines would be nice. Not that this problem is exclusive to Vanguard, no MMO I've yet seen has managed to fill its empty space too well...it's just that Vanguard has so much more of it.

[tad10]

Originally Posted by woqqqa

Well, I used to be. But after seeing tons of empty land with little or nothing there, I'm a bit burnt out on it. It would be far better if they added some content. Nothing extensive, mind you...just a hidden town, small area with some special named mob or something along those lines would be nice. Not that this problem is exclusive to Vanguard, no MMO I've yet seen has managed to fill its empty space too well...it's just that Vanguard has so much more of it.

Yeah there's a lot of empty space but there's a lot of content as well. Some content you're only going to find by exploring. Ran into a named kraken while swimming along the bottom of the sea just looking around. Found the Vault of the Hidden in JT and Dazar (not the empty cave, the dungeon whose entrance is above the waterfall in the empty cave) just fucking around. Earlier I wandered into the Swamps of Raumog and came across two named I'd never heard of as well as a cool though empty dungeon accessible only by dropping down a crack in an island also ran into some True Silver as a bonus. I've found VG rewards exploration.

[kcxiv]

There seriously needs to be more level 40 quest hubs. Its kind of dry. I dont have anywhere to go really, at least not on Qalia. i found a few hubs, but they dont give quests. I know its not done. Hopefully next patch they can get to that shit. Not in a hurry for 50 anyways, but still. Most of my guild is starting to hit the 40's now.

[Teclisen]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

There seriously needs to be more level 40 quest hubs. Its kind of dry. I dont have anywhere to go really, at least not on Qalia. i found a few hubs, but they dont give quests. I know its not done. Hopefully next patch they can get to that shit. Not in a hurry for 50 anyways, but still. Most of my guild is starting to hit the 40's now.

We just got in around 70 quests to the Beranid down region. We're wrapping up the Xennumet (38-44ish) right now, which should be around 20 solo side quests, and a huge 12+ step quest line for the dungeon itself, which should mostly doable with 2-3 people.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Teclisen

We just got in around 70 quests to the Beranid down region. We're wrapping up the Xennumet (38-44ish) right now, which should be around 20 solo side quests, and a huge 12+ step quest line for the dungeon itself, which should mostly doable with 2-3 people.

Is that all on Thestra? What about on Qalia? I went over to Razad area, and there is a whole nice Hub out there with not 1 quest, same goes for Dragons' Backbone. Serioulsy need quests there for them islands out there. I would be all over it.

[Dinthug]

Teclisen, were you ever a GM on Druzzil Ro?

[Erronius]

Originally Posted by Kreugen

The best part is, it spawned yet another highly entertaining raving idiot hater post over at SV FoH - Silky Venom

Sadly there are slightly more people with a clue posting than drooling morons, but there are some gems in there nonetheless.

What is truly sad is that people are pinning hate onto FOH for being the place that Brad posts, just as many other MMO notables do. It's as though they have come to the realization (albeit slowly) that Brad will not stop posting here, that Sigil isn't about to change their stance on the Official Forum argument, and that the Affiliate moniker doesn't mean all that much and it sure as hell cannot corral every single Dev post into the affiliate sites.

So I guess now that hating FOH for this state of affairs, something that the site has absolutely no responsibility for, is the next logical step. Many of these people already hate on these forums due to posting style and the like (perhaps justified at times), hate FOH for things that happened in EQ years and years ago, so perhaps its just easy to hate on FOH for this crap too.

I'm sure there are tons of people that would love to see Brad stop posting here, even if it meant that Brad just stopped posting altogether. We can't have Brad breaking 'Teh Rulez', can we? They'd be happy having less information and posts as the end result, so they can puff out their chests with 'pride' for enforcing some sort of internet posting code.

I can understand the Affiliate angst, but that's hardly the fault of FOH.

People are also bitching from the "Brad posting on FOH would be ok, if we could respond, but we cant get our acct's activated to post!" angle. I wish those people would realize that the ability to post here has always been difficult to attain at times, and it isn't personal. I predict people on SV and elsewhere demanding (yes, demanding) that FOH open up acct access completely so that every Vanbois under the sky can come over and post whenever they feel like it, as long as Brad continues to post here. They will possibly insist on that, or continue to bitch and moan about the Affiliate deal in the hope that they can get people to stop posting here altogether.

[holymight]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Is that all on Thestra? What about on Qalia? I went over to Razad area, and there is a whole nice Hub out there with not 1 quest, same goes for Dragons' Backbone. Serioulsy need quests there for them islands out there. I would be all over it.

Xennumet is Dragon's Backbone. It's that whole water area.

[rinthea]

no solo content is raping this game right now

[tad10]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Is that all on Thestra? What about on Qalia? I went over to Razad area, and there is a whole nice Hub out there with not 1 quest, same goes for Dragons' Backbone. Serioulsy need quests there for them islands out there. I would be all over it.

DB has the the Xenn Tech quests right now which involve the Isle of Madness but yes there are a dearth of low 40s quests in Qalia. The Rahz Inkur/Afrit line is really mid-40s and Nusibe is also I'm pretty sure. FWIW, there is also the Tar Janashir starspark quest line which starts mid-30s but finishing quests are suitable for low 40s (killing 40-42ish minos).

[Kreugen]

I liked Qualia because it has a hell of lot less dead space and far superior questing hubs, at least for the levels I saw. Sadly it also has less people.

[Elsebet]

Originally Posted by Seths

I'm honestly curious as I got sidetracked on leveling at 30 and stopped to craft for the past few weeks. Is it a lack of quest money? quests? mob dropped cash? items to sell to players? or not enough high lvl players to purchase off you? Or all of the above?

I'm not 50 yet (34 Adventuring and 25 Crafting) but I've found that the bulk of my coin is made from selling my crafted goods and gear I get from work orders, not adventuring. In fact until the recent durability fix (thank heavens), we were either losing coin or just barely breaking even after a night of adventuring.

I lobbied my man many times to just grind out crafting before adventuring and we would be rich but he can't stand the tedium of crafting. It's definitely worth it though.