Nino...One of the upsides of VG. - Page 52

Reggie · 03-31-2007, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Utnayan

This, and this alone, is why the boards are shit.

Naw, don't kid yourself... kid.

Your PC is gimpy regardless. Go buy something new.

Rayne · 03-31-2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UnchainedAcolyte

Had you read my comments in the thread and the statement from Draegan I was responding to, I was commenting on the supposed "absolutist" views he was saying all of those of us who like Vanguard have, which is garbage. I've openly admitted to the bugs, problems, and shortcomings of the game, while acknowledging the good as well.

I also wasn't arguing against the right for people to have other opinions on the game. I defended Cuppy's right to, in fact.

Pay attention to what's being discussed, rather than simply going on the defensive, Rayne. You'll look more credible next time.

I have no idea why you would think I was being defensive. I was pointing out an observation. So there really isn't any reason for me to "look credible". Are we reading the same board here?

"Absolutist views" abound in Vanguard threads. And more times than not when its a complaint about the game, its almost always insisted upon that the entire experience that led to the conclusion be explained in detail, as if some crucial bit of information might somehow redeem the face of the game. Which in a nutshell, is what Draegan was pointing out. So, Cuppy said 15 instead of 14. Big deal. Look at the underlying circumstances that were basically "demanded" of her to uncover that shocking revelation that completely absolves Vanguard of any and all shortcomings

I'd argue that Draegan's observation was pretty spot on.

Camerous · 03-31-2007, 07:27 AM

The reason people feel the need to do this, specially in VG threads, is because of all the hate on both sides. I admit i have participated in it and as such was just as much a part of the problem as those I was attacking but it is a current trend on these boards that you can't just state an opinion without showing why you have that opinion or what happened to change your opinion to the current one. Perhaps when VG interest dies off we can get back to just straight MMO discussion and flames. *shrugs* I think VG hurt this board because people were looking for something else and this was the next great thing but it just didn't deliver on what it should have and that pissed a lot of folks off, including me, and made for a very explosive atmosphere.

Fog · 03-31-2007, 07:31 AM

Is this death thing a joke, or am I misunderstanding it? I thought that a major aspect of VG's design was always said to be that players were expected to keep multiple sets of equipment to assist with corpse runs.

Twobit Whore · 03-31-2007, 07:39 AM

I'm pretty sure that backup gear hasn't been a big issue, ever.. at least since they put in the 'soulbound gear goes with you on death' thing. And since you can choose to soulbind just about anything, most people aren't really doing corpse runs naked or in full backup gear.

Fog · 03-31-2007, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

I'm pretty sure that backup gear hasn't been a big issue, ever.. at least since they put in the 'soulbound gear goes with you on death' thing. And since you can choose to soulbind just about anything, most people aren't really doing corpse runs naked or in full backup gear.

Fair enough. I don't know jack about VG.

Twobit Whore · 03-31-2007, 07:44 AM

Yeah, it's just another one of those things that sounded good on paper that didn't translate so well in game.

Rayne · 03-31-2007, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fog

Is this death thing a joke, or am I misunderstanding it? I thought that a major aspect of VG's design was always said to be that players were expected to keep multiple sets of equipment to assist with corpse runs.

Its a backpedal. But one I think they made to improve the overall appeal of the game. I imagine this change took a lot of swallowed pride to implement.

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Originally Posted by Camerous

The reason people feel the need to do this, specially in VG threads, is because of all the hate on both sides. I admit i have participated in it and as such was just as much a part of the problem as those I was attacking but it is a current trend on these boards that you can't just state an opinion without showing why you have that opinion or what happened to change your opinion to the current one. Perhaps when VG interest dies off we can get back to just straight MMO discussion and flames. *shrugs* I think VG hurt this board because people were looking for something else and this was the next great thing but it just didn't deliver on what it should have and that pissed a lot of folks off, including me, and made for a very explosive atmosphere.

Agreed. And i'm still pretty confident Sigil can turn this thing around. As I said in an earlier post, much of what they're doing now, and what I expect to see them do in the near future, was suggested during the early phases of beta. Its just unfortunate that it had to come down to the genre "proving" that what may have worked fine 10 years ago, isn't necessarily going to work fine today.

The Hiram Key · 03-31-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

The reason people feel the need to do this, specially in VG threads, is because of all the hate on both sides. I admit i have participated in it and as such was just as much a part of the problem as those I was attacking

Glad to see you pulled out of your Tad10 nosedive there Cam, we were so very worried about you !!!

:::Applause:::

Laerazi · 03-31-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Glad to see you pulled out of your Tad10 nosedive there Cam, we were so very worried about you !!!

:::Applause:::

Too bad there's been no changes on your end...

The Hiram Key · 03-31-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Laerazi

Too bad there's been no changes on your end...

Cheap one liners become you

rinthea · 03-31-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Cheap one liners become you

if your going to bend over and pull your pants down, you've got to expect someoens going to walk past and slide it in

xmod2 · 03-31-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rinthea

if your going to bend over and pull your pants down, you've got to expect someoens going to walk past and slide it in

Maybe at the gym locker rooms you frequent or something. Jesus Christ.

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Twobit Whore · 03-31-2007, 10:49 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure that mental image was necessary.

Laerazi · 03-31-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Cheap one liners become you

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Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Glad to see you pulled out of your Tad10 nosedive there Cam, we were so very worried about you !!!

No need to say anything. Also, this is a second sentence!

03-31-2007, 07:27 AM	#768 (permalink)
Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	The reason people feel the need to do this, specially in VG threads, is because of all the hate on both sides. I admit i have participated in it and as such was just as much a part of the problem as those I was attacking but it is a current trend on these boards that you can't just state an opinion without showing why you have that opinion or what happened to change your opinion to the current one. Perhaps when VG interest dies off we can get back to just straight MMO discussion and flames. shrugs I think VG hurt this board because people were looking for something else and this was the next great thing but it just didn't deliver on what it should have and that pissed a lot of folks off, including me, and made for a very explosive atmosphere. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,167 -14 Internets	I'm pretty sure that backup gear hasn't been a big issue, ever.. at least since they put in the 'soulbound gear goes with you on death' thing. And since you can choose to soulbind just about anything, most people aren't really doing corpse runs naked or in full backup gear. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,167 -14 Internets	Yeah, it's just another one of those things that sounded good on paper that didn't translate so well in game. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,167 -14 Internets	Yeah, I'm not sure that mental image was necessary. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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03-31-2007, 07:31 AM	#769 (permalink)
Fog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,971 -1 Internets	Is this death thing a joke, or am I misunderstanding it? I thought that a major aspect of VG's design was always said to be that players were expected to keep multiple sets of equipment to assist with corpse runs.