Vanguard, yet another double exp weekend - Page 3

Ortega · 03-08-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Muligan

I think in the back of their minds they are wanting to turn over more rocks as quick as possible. .

I so doubt this has anything to do with double exp weekends. Hell my bet is they took a look at their sub base and went "Shit 100k people are going to be renewing this weekend if they don't CANCEL!!!! DOUBLE EXP TIME!!" Guess I'm just a pessimist.

The Hiram Key · 03-08-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

Speaking of which, seriously SOE, why in the fuck is Vanguard not on the shelves at Future Shop? Did Vivendi sign some sort of exclusivity deal, or does your distribution just suck ass? Because Future Shop is probably the equivalent of Wal-Mart in Canada in terms of market share of video game sales, and if it's not on the shelves there, you ain't gonna be selling fuck all. I've been to three different stores in the past month on half a dozen occasions for other purchases, and would probably be playing VG right now if it had been available for an impulse purchase, but it's never been in stock. Not that I've asked a sales rep, it's just not visible on the shelves. Perhaps it's simply buried beneath the 10,000 TBC boxes.

Indeed. I was at Best Buy this past weekend to get a new monitor and browsed the pc games section and there was not a single copy of Vanguard to be found. Perhaps they all sold out ???

Kidriot69 · 03-08-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

VG imo has a chance to be the funnest MMO i have ever played. It just has quite a few annoying bugs. Hopefully that shit gets fixed and fast.

Hell, it pulled me from eq1 after 6 years.

I personally had way more fun in EQ1 than i ever had in VG. VG is just more of the same, nothing special. SoE obviously overestimated VGs success.

I bet Best Buy didnt sell out, they just havent ordered more, because it took them so long to sell what they had. At a Frys Electronics down the street, theres still about 15 Pre Order Boxes and 20 Games still sitting on the shelves.

nyx · 03-08-2007, 05:27 PM

Sheesh, when Blizzard gave out freebies for fucking up there game, everyone touted there virtues. When Sigil does, it must be a conspiracy!!!!

chackle · 03-08-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nyx

Sheesh, when Blizzard gave out freebies for fucking up there game, everyone touted there virtues. When Sigil does, it must be a conspiracy!!!!

When did Blizzard nerf and break the shit out of classes whilst ignoring the already implemented broken skills? I must have missed that bit. Yes they handed out freebies for busted servers and I can remember people screaming to high hell about how pathetic their DB structure was over looting issues and the like, how they should have anticipated demand based on the same issues happening in Open Beta.

Eomer · 03-08-2007, 05:37 PM

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Indeed. I was at Best Buy this past weekend to get a new monitor and browsed the pc games section and there was not a single copy of Vanguard to be found. Perhaps they all sold out ???

Best Buy bought Future Shop a few years back, so maybe that's got somethign to do with it. There's a couple of those shitholes around, as well, but something about them repels me, so I have no idea if that's the case there as well.

Linus · 03-08-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cascow

3)Focus on developing 1-2 places per level range to try and funnel people into. I realize that this takes away the point of having a huge game world, but you need to concentrate your player base somewhat. Finding a group currently is like poking yourself in the eyes with a rusty nail.

This man speaks truth.

They need to figure out how to balance these three things:
1. a HUGE, absolutely massive, game world,
2. low/medium server populations, especially in newbie zones,
and
3. needing a find a group to advance, or rather, discouraging soloing (which they seem to be doing...)

Imagine The Barrens with 1/10th the quests, 1/10th the mobs, and circa 5-10 people in it. That's how Vanguard feels most of the time, at least to me.

kcxiv · 03-08-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidriot69

I personally had way more fun in EQ1 than i ever had in VG. VG is just more of the same, nothing special. SoE obviously overestimated VGs success.
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Well no shit, but after 6 years of the same game, same graphics. It tends to get a little old. I wont ever have fun like i did in EQ from now til i die. I know this. I am not blind to that. VG to me is a mixture of EQ1 and WoW, thats what i like about it. I hated the fact that in WoW i was pretty much on my own til level 60, it bored me til no end, even with fast leveling. I just couldnt do it anymore. With VG, i am playing with alot of my friends, we are grouping and doing dungeons having a blast. For me, its well worth it.

I really dont care what SOE over or underestimated. As long as i am having fun, thats all that matters. am i right?

Twobit Whore · 03-08-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

I really dont care what SOE over or underestimated. As long as i am having fun, thats all that matters. am i right?

No.

If you and your friends are having a blast but noone else is, Sigil is not going to keep the game afloat for your group.

Itzena · 03-08-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

No.

If you and your friends are having a blast but noone else is, Sigil is not going to keep the game afloat for your group.

The Station Pass would mitigate this slightly, though...if SOE hadn't shot themselves in the foot with the unwise price increase.

Kodylan · 03-08-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nyx

Sheesh, when Blizzard gave out freebies for fucking up there game, everyone touted there virtues. When Sigil does, it must be a conspiracy!!!!

Funny, I don't recall that. I recall people being pretty angry over all the early problems, not a bunch of people touting their virtues.

Aethn Anvel · 03-08-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Besides, I was under the impression one of the selling points for the game was a long (longer then Wow anyway) leveling curve. Why undermine one of your cornerstone offerings ?

.

Because they came to realize this was a selling point to almost no one. It was a very minor sect of players that wanted this. The lions share hated the slow EXP curve and alot quit over it.

Simple economics. Slow EXP curve, they retained a few hardcore players, lost alot of the fresh new faces they need to pay the bills, back to EQ2 and WOW. Faster EXP curve = lose a few hardcore players, gain back alot of the people who bailed out after 2 weeks, lights stay on in the office and paychecks dont bounce.

Kodylan · 03-08-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

No.

If you and your friends are having a blast but noone else is, Sigil is not going to keep the game afloat for your group.

I don't know, there are what, 6 people playing EQ still?

kcxiv · 03-08-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

No.

If you and your friends are having a blast but noone else is, Sigil is not going to keep the game afloat for your group.

Wow, i didn't know just 6 of us actually liked the game. Thanks for clearing that up. lol

Itzena · 03-08-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodylan

I don't know, there are what, 6 people playing EQ still?

EQ is still SOE's biggest single game (or was, the last time SirBruce updated his charts). Now, if you'd said Planetside....

Also: Hey, I was right about slow xp curve = crappy subs. Who'da thunk it?

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nyx Victorian Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 283 -1 Internets	Sheesh, when Blizzard gave out freebies for fucking up there game, everyone touted there virtues. When Sigil does, it must be a conspiracy!!!!