Vanguard, yet another double exp weekend - Page 14

Camerous · 03-18-2007, 01:35 PM

One of the biggest things I hated about WoW was the quest stuff. I don't mind doing tasks but I think Quests should be huge and give you a good item that you actually need. Sure some WoW quests did that but for the most part you only did them for the money and exp... that's not a real quest to me. *shrugs* When I send my D&D crew on a quest it is long and has many dangers but it is also very rewarding. Not go kill 20 bats and rats and come back for 5c.

Lusiphur · 03-18-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

One of the biggest things I hated about WoW was the quest stuff. I don't mind doing tasks but I think Quests should be huge and give you a good item that you actually need. Sure some WoW quests did that but for the most part you only did them for the money and exp... that's not a real quest to me. *shrugs* When I send my D&D crew on a quest it is long and has many dangers but it is also very rewarding. Not go kill 20 bats and rats and come back for 5c.

Cam, you were actually starting to sound sensible for a while. Then the dark side reclaimed you

You realise there is nothing forcing you to do the quests in WoW ? Yes ?

woqqqa · 03-18-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lusiphur

Cam, you were actually starting to sound sensible for a while. Then the dark side reclaimed you

You realise there is nothing forcing you to do the quests in WoW ? Yes ?

Well the other option is to grind mobs for even less money and a far slower exp rate. Blizz really does need to spruce up their quests...most MMOs do, actually.

Camerous · 03-18-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lusiphur

Cam, you were actually starting to sound sensible for a while. Then the dark side reclaimed you

You realise there is nothing forcing you to do the quests in WoW ? Yes ?

But that's like saying that nothing is forcing you to go to the hot zones in Eq1 and kill for better exp than normal zones either. Sure I have a choice but anyone with 1/2 a brain will go where the exp is the best, and in this case do the things that give the most exp, like quests. :-)

I just always thought that quests should actually mean something. *shrugs*

Itzena · 03-18-2007, 01:55 PM

Camerous - honest question: If WoW had called its bread & butter 'kill x splats' quests something like 'missions' or 'tasks' and saved the word 'quests' for the bigger, multi-stage quest lines...would it have made you happier?

Camerous · 03-18-2007, 01:58 PM

I know how dumb this will sound but yes hehe It just has always bothered me for some weird reason. Just one of those things I guess.

Twobit Whore · 03-18-2007, 02:10 PM

EQ had the same shit, turn in bonechips = quest. Lego pads = quest. And about a million more. It's all semantics really. Just call them tasks or jobs in your head. Their real purpose was to give a little bonus to grinding on shit instead of just nonstop grinding on shit that was common in previous games.

Dashal · 03-18-2007, 02:16 PM

Personally, I like the little kill task things. I know it's all basically the same thing but it definitely masks the grind better than just vanilla xp grinding.

Zanna'Dar · 03-19-2007, 01:41 AM

Kill tasks are fine...It's the ''Gather X amount of Y from Z mob'' that pisses me off. Every time I do this type of questing, the last damn item never seems to be dropping and the whole thing turns into a timesink(...Sometimes it just gets so annoying, I just abandon the quest.

Eternal · 03-19-2007, 04:05 AM

I think EQ2 quest chains develop for EoF expansion are a step in the right direction, with variety objectives and some worthwhile rewards. Also the whole achievement (AA) system, the main reward is the AA experience. It's an interesting twist, you essentially quest not for regular XP (which is plentiful and easy to grind) but for the AA xp.

It's easy to grind to level 70 but to get those 100 AA takes loads of questing and name hunting. Think WoW's talent points you dont get automatically with levels but mostly for quests and named hunting.

lost · 03-19-2007, 07:48 PM

the double weekends were fun but not that useful, i burned myself out i find myself wanting to craft more, as for diplomacy what the fuck good is that shit? so i just craft to get unburnt of grinding hours on hours to get like 1-2 levels.. yeesh

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Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	One of the biggest things I hated about WoW was the quest stuff. I don't mind doing tasks but I think Quests should be huge and give you a good item that you actually need. Sure some WoW quests did that but for the most part you only did them for the money and exp... that's not a real quest to me. shrugs When I send my D&D crew on a quest it is long and has many dangers but it is also very rewarding. Not go kill 20 bats and rats and come back for 5c. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

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Itzena SOS-dan #76564674 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Near a big fucking castle, the UK Posts: 7,169 -26 Internets	Camerous - honest question: If WoW had called its bread & butter 'kill x splats' quests something like 'missions' or 'tasks' and saved the word 'quests' for the bigger, multi-stage quest lines...would it have made you happier? __________________

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Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	I know how dumb this will sound but yes hehe It just has always bothered me for some weird reason. Just one of those things I guess. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,183 -14 Internets	EQ had the same shit, turn in bonechips = quest. Lego pads = quest. And about a million more. It's all semantics really. Just call them tasks or jobs in your head. Their real purpose was to give a little bonus to grinding on shit instead of just nonstop grinding on shit that was common in previous games. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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03-18-2007, 02:16 PM	#203 (permalink)
Dashal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,278 +2 Internets	Personally, I like the little kill task things. I know it's all basically the same thing but it definitely masks the grind better than just vanilla xp grinding.

03-19-2007, 01:41 AM	#204 (permalink)
Zanna'Dar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 300 +1 Internets	Kill tasks are fine...It's the ''Gather X amount of Y from Z mob'' that pisses me off. Every time I do this type of questing, the last damn item never seems to be dropping and the whole thing turns into a timesink(...Sometimes it just gets so annoying, I just abandon the quest.

03-19-2007, 04:05 AM	#205 (permalink)
Eternal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 124 +0 Internets	I think EQ2 quest chains develop for EoF expansion are a step in the right direction, with variety objectives and some worthwhile rewards. Also the whole achievement (AA) system, the main reward is the AA experience. It's an interesting twist, you essentially quest not for regular XP (which is plentiful and easy to grind) but for the AA xp. It's easy to grind to level 70 but to get those 100 AA takes loads of questing and name hunting. Think WoW's talent points you dont get automatically with levels but mostly for quests and named hunting.

03-19-2007, 07:48 PM	#206 (permalink)
lost REDLIN3D Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UCF Posts: 576	the double weekends were fun but not that useful, i burned myself out i find myself wanting to craft more, as for diplomacy what the fuck good is that shit? so i just craft to get unburnt of grinding hours on hours to get like 1-2 levels.. yeesh