AION - New NCSoft Title

[Teljair]

Originally Posted by Ronne

The penalties in Lineage2 are half of what made it fucking rule. Talk about needing social connections.

The other half was burning a castle to the ground with your dragon.

I agree, L2 PvP is awesome, anyone who says otherwise is a carebear.

[Draegan]

As long as I don't lose levels and experience in as PVP game I'm happy. Gear or whatever is fine.

Or if I lose experience it's easy to get back with minimal effort.

[Vatoreus]

thirding the L2 PVP being awesome.

[Teljair]

Originally Posted by Draegan

As long as I don't lose levels and experience in as PVP game I'm happy. Gear or whatever is fine.

Or if I lose experience it's easy to get back with minimal effort.

You are a carebear!

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Draegan

As long as I don't lose levels and experience in as PVP game I'm happy. Gear or whatever is fine.

Or if I lose experience it's easy to get back with minimal effort.

You obviously didn't play Lineage 2 then, and I doubt these other loud-mouthed fucks above with the "carebear" shit did, either. Unless you bought the in-game currency with RL cash (and I'm well aware that more than 50% of the "hardcore" players did so), it could take literally *WEEKS* to earn enough money to buy reasonably higher-end gear in that game.

And this is how you lose it: Make a *SINGLE* mistake and get your character "red" (your character name turns red) and you are an instant Monty-Haul treasure trove waiting to happen. Anybody can attack you and kill you without any repercussions at all - and you *CANNOT* defend yourself or you go even deeper into the "red" - and you have a very high probability for that gear to just drop on the ground for them to pick up.

And another example: So you and some guildies go to a hunting area. You get there, some other folks are there, you kill them. Then what? Well, now you're "red" and you and your guildies have to kill each other over and over until you're not "red" any more.

Lineage 2 had the single most retarded fucking PvP system in the history of PvP games. There's no way NC-Soft would be stupid enough to include that in a game like Aion, which they hope to get more than 5,000 NA subscribers with.

[Vatoreus]

did you ever play UO? while gear was a lot easier to get a hold of, it still was awesome. Red systems and full loot is fucking win. Also, if you couldn't handle going red, you're a big vagina.

[Anwyn]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

You obviously didn't play Lineage 2 then, and I doubt these other loud-mouthed fucks above with the "carebear" shit did, either. Unless you bought the in-game currency with RL cash (and I'm well aware that more than 50% of the "hardcore" players did so), it could take literally *WEEKS* to earn enough money to buy reasonably higher-end gear in that game.

And this is how you lose it: Make a *SINGLE* mistake and get your character "red" (your character name turns red) and you are an instant Monty-Haul treasure trove waiting to happen. Anybody can attack you and kill you without any repercussions at all - and you *CANNOT* defend yourself or you go even deeper into the "red" - and you have a very high probability for that gear to just drop on the ground for them to pick up.

And another example: So you and some guildies go to a hunting area. You get there, some other folks are there, you kill them. Then what? Well, now you're "red" and you and your guildies have to kill each other over and over until you're not "red" any more.

Lineage 2 had the single most retarded fucking PvP system in the history of PvP games. There's no way NC-Soft would be stupid enough to include that in a game like Aion, which they hope to get more than 5,000 NA subscribers with.

Spoken like a true carebear.. or a healer without a box or partner.

It didn't take shit for time to get anywhere in L2 if you had a fucking brain and a guild. Sure if you were a solo / small group player life sucked, but those with a guild who knew what they were doing easily prospered without buying adena.

Hell, I blew four Soul Bows on Lionna in a day trying to break +10 on just one and never hit +7. Did get to +15 on a BoP+QR though for my HE, and had a wicked set of +9 Kesh*Dama duals for my BD box.

L2 was all about guild play, not small group or solo. It became horribly evident when you got past level 52 and needed to either be fully buffed (SE/BD/SWS/PP) or sporting some serious enchanted B-grade. Hell, I had a +15 Emi for a few days and the +4 BoP I got far outclassed it's damage with less p.atk thanks to B-grade bonus.

Oh yeah, and part of the thing about being red.. is it takes a fool to not BSoE, or Party Escape soon as it happens and de-karma in private. Or just dominate an area long enough to de-karma via grinding...

[bubblegumbo]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

You obviously didn't play Lineage 2 then, and I doubt these other loud-mouthed fucks above with the "carebear" shit did, either. Unless you bought the in-game currency with RL cash (and I'm well aware that more than 50% of the "hardcore" players did so), it could take literally *WEEKS* to earn enough money to buy reasonably higher-end gear in that game.

And this is how you lose it: Make a *SINGLE* mistake and get your character "red" (your character name turns red) and you are an instant Monty-Haul treasure trove waiting to happen. Anybody can attack you and kill you without any repercussions at all - and you *CANNOT* defend yourself or you go even deeper into the "red" - and you have a very high probability for that gear to just drop on the ground for them to pick up.

And another example: So you and some guildies go to a hunting area. You get there, some other folks are there, you kill them. Then what? Well, now you're "red" and you and your guildies have to kill each other over and over until you're not "red" any more.

Lineage 2 had the single most retarded fucking PvP system in the history of PvP games. There's no way NC-Soft would be stupid enough to include that in a game like Aion, which they hope to get more than 5,000 NA subscribers with.

'nuff said

[Sancti]

Originally Posted by Vatoreus

did you ever play UO? while gear was a lot easier to get a hold of, it still was awesome. Red systems and full loot is fucking win. Also, if you couldn't handle going red, you're a big vagina.

4thing that L2 pvp was awesome. Being one of the highest bladedancers on the server from release to about 5 months later when I quit...I got to enjoy a lot of this stuff first hand. On Bartz server, the epic battle between SoC/allied with farmers SoL vs. the combined weight of the server was pretty badass. Or trying to get to my SoC guild groups in DV and having to get escorted there due to on route pking action.


ahhhhh. though im sure im glossing over the tears I cried when at level 40 my dual sor's dropped in cruma 2L.

[Coren]

L2's "going red" system wouldn't have been so bad, if the game itself just didn't suck so horribly, with just totally broken PvP.

[Coren]

Originally Posted by Vatoreus

Also, if you couldn't handle going red, you're a big vagina.

I do admit I loved people with that kind of mindset though. So much free loot I'd gotten off reds.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Vatoreus

did you ever play UO? while gear was a lot easier to get a hold of, it still was awesome. Red systems and full loot is fucking win. Also, if you couldn't handle going red, you're a big vagina.

This would be one of those in-game-currency buyers I'd mentioned previously. Thanks for supporting your local rang-rang, dipshit. Move along now.

[Vatoreus]

Actually, no. Nice try though.

[Draegan]

First of all Lineage 2 was click to move, which sucks anyway, so that whole game should be ruled irrelevant!

[Bo Jackson]

The PvP, despite it's obvious flaws, was still more fun then WoW's. When the game was fairly new we would go to war full out against the farmers. And by we I mean anyone that spoke english. There were epic battles waged back and forth in Cruma for hours, and everyone was trying to snag some free loot from a farmer.