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Old 02-17-2007, 07:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[WOW] Is the Alliance really worse at PVP?

After the discussion in this thread

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorp...hings-fix.html

I can't help but wonder if I am the only one that feels that the alliance side on my server (EU-Ravenholdt) is just truly bad at PVP.

Is this something other people have noticed?

I am levelling yet another class, and my paladin is 50 now. So far, I have been ganked a few times and a lot more often I have been attacked and turned the tables on odds that are just plain unwinnable.

Examples:

A 41 lock and 42 mage attack me at 39. Both die.

3 level 50 hunters attack two paladins I was grouped with. Our levels: 38, 39, 41. They die.

A level 70 hunter takes from the second the boat in BB left the dock until Ratchet to try and kill me at level 49. He is finally chased off by Ratchet guards.

Yes, this is anecdotal. Yes, these are just some examples, but I could tell you plenty more. These are the crass ones.

I don't think the arena system will show a quality difference between TOP horde and alliance teams. But I'm talking about the run-of-the-mill guys here.

So:

Is the alliance generally worse than the horde at world pvp?

At BGs?

Is it just that gankers in general are unskilled mouthbreathers and the "good" PVPers don't run around TM at level 55 looking for cheap kills?

Does the "hardcore" or "gritty" (or whatever you want to call it) image of the horde attract players that are more prone to have the right mindset for PVP?
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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To sum my experience of wow up fully: Yes, the alliance really is just full of more idiots.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Alliance has more people, therefor more idiots. . .

Easier to shine when you have 20 horde on the server. . when theres 500 alliance and you never see the same one twice in a week, nobodies going to look twice at you good or bad.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Also something to consider is alliance has more real females playing and they generally are completely awful at PvP if interested in it at all.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Also something to consider is alliance has more real females playing and they generally are completely awful at PvP if interested in it at all.
You've gotten this thread off to a great start.

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Old 02-17-2007, 09:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Also something to consider is alliance has more real females playing and they generally are completely awful at PvP if interested in it at all.
Hate to break it to you casanova, but theres a whole lot of mangina lying to you.

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Old 02-17-2007, 09:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My Good friend who normally plays a healer, cant stand pvp.. she normally plays a healer.. i know quite a few others like this too

OP.. IMO only.. The horde side seems abit more mature.. less kiddies i guess. This is probably why allies look so bad. "damn kids ><"

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Old 02-17-2007, 09:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Also something to consider is alliance has more real females playing and they generally are completely awful at PvP if interested in it at all.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hate to break it to you casanova, but theres a whole lot of mangina lying to you.

"You got a hummer from the tranny, didnt you?"
I'd have to say more real life females play alliance simply because human/nelf females are much better looking avatars.

In terms of girls being worse at WoW than guys. Somewhat disagree. Our guilds two best healers one was a guy, other a girl. In terms of best at every other position, it was only guys. Then again we only had like 5 girls.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Also something to consider is alliance has more real females playing and they generally are completely awful at PvP if interested in it at all.
Top pvper in my guild is a chick. has 52,000+ kills.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Alliance and Horde are both idiots for different reasons. All things being equal in macro terms, which they are thanks to the terrible item budget progression (I do not mind this at fucking all, FYI), the Horde do seem to be genuinely better at pvp than Alliance. When you see someone in a dumb spec they usually play better, and when they are in the right spec they play well and aren't confined to reclusive pre-mades. I've met plenty of equally adept players, sometimes geared beyond my dreams, just low riding it up with us common folk. I have never seen an alliance support class do pugs, and the only time I'll ever see someone equipped in the 'High Warlord' style is a pure damage class looking to have some solo fun.

Maybe it's the racials, maybe it's the low population or maybe it's just two years of anecdotal evidence, but Alliance seem to be flat-out dumber than Horde. Personally, I genuinely do believe that higher population plus two years of paladins have deadened the functional capacity of Alliance players to not suck completely. The only time I see Horde become equally retarded is in WSG pugs, and AV with giant gear discrepency. In Eye of the Storm the other night 8 horde were able to keep pace with a full team of 15 Alliance side. We lost by 400 points in a 25 minute game, where we were outnumbered 5 minutes in.

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Old 02-18-2007, 12:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes, because the expierece of 5 or so people on this message board is the same as the other 7,000,000 people who play this game.

Anyways, what are we going to talk about in the next thread? How WoTF is overpowered?
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Old 02-18-2007, 12:20 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Blood Elves are fixing it.

I've easily encountered two or three times as many idiots leveling my BElf Paladin than I did leveling my Undead Mage.

I do think that the top Arena teams will be mostly Horde though.
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Old 02-18-2007, 12:40 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I do think that the top Arena teams will be mostly Horde though.
I think this prediction goes out the window when you take into account that Arena teams are non-faction specific. You fight Alliance AND Horde. So the top Arena teams are simply going to be the teams who are the best of the best, regardless of the faction they are associated with.
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