LOTRO NDA is lifted - Page 20

Adamar Hammerfell · 03-29-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SalTheBard

I just might be playing LoTRO then. Sounds awesome. Can you explain the Tier 1 damage / Tier 2 damage thing to me?

I played a Dwarf Minstrel for a good while in closed beta, and found it to be a very solid and enjoyable class. In addition to being the most potent healers in the game, Minstrels are also incredible at soloing. If you enjoy having a lot of things to do during combat, you'll like this class.

Cadrid · 03-29-2007, 06:32 PM

I only got to play a Captain to around level 15 and didn't do a whole lot of grouping. Anyone get a bit higher that could give a feel for how they were later on?

Jabberwhacky · 03-29-2007, 06:36 PM

Minstrels sound pretty good*, but what's their downside? Totally needed for groups, yet good solo capabilities...is it gonna be like VG where half the servers end up being healers?

*Besides the obvious nerf to their name. Bards > minstrels. Bards may be spoony, but minstrels are flat out gay. Might as well change the name to minthtrelth.

TwiNCannoN · 03-29-2007, 07:05 PM

Well, minstrels are the only healer in the game - at least the only one worth a damn. So I guess it's fine that they get some perks. Still, they aren't that ridiculous anymore - the last patch toned them down quite a bit (overnerfed some of their skills imo - the devs have a tendency to overnerf, sadly), and they're certainly one of the two worst DPS classes now (not sure if guardian is more/less than minstrel post-patch?).

I really wish we got some DoTs and such. It's kind of boring that all of our tier 1 and 2 ballads are the same, except for the buff they give.

Lonin · 03-29-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamar Hammerfell

I played a Dwarf Minstrel for a good while in closed beta, and found it to be a very solid and enjoyable class. In addition to being the most potent healers in the game, Minstrels are also incredible at soloing. If you enjoy having a lot of things to do during combat, you'll like this class.

I want a cool sig like that.

Guiness · 03-29-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonin

I want a cool sig like that.

while we are asking, I'd just like the font.

Adamar Hammerfell · 03-29-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Guiness

while we are asking, I'd just like the font.

Coincidentally, it is called Ringbearer

You can download it here.

ajiatus · 03-29-2007, 09:29 PM

Couple of clarifications and random trivia.

Minstrels' Achilles's heel is their squishiness and the fact that they draw aggro. Yes you can get medium armor at higher levels, but by doing so you sacrifice other interesting traits.

The nuker in LOTRO is the hunter -- just forget that it's arrows instead of flames, the concept is the same. If you like playing mage in WoW the hunter should suit you fine.

All classes are very well balanced and hybrids of sorts -- they all have some utility skills that help round out their main skills.

The Loremaster is NOT a Nuker. Think more WoW Warlock -- pet class with some DoT ranged spells, debuffs, and best at CC.

The Guardian is a fun tank in that it has mostly reactive skills, including a reactive heal. The champion heals are HoTs that depend on the mob dying first, which adds an interesting twist.

TwiNCannoN · 03-29-2007, 10:07 PM

The reactive skills really help make combat interesting, especially for burglars who can combo like crazy with criticals.

Adamar Hammerfell · 03-29-2007, 10:34 PM

Here are some more screenshots from closed beta. These were taken before I got the high res client, when I was playing my Dwarf Minstrel.

Maxxius · 03-29-2007, 10:41 PM

That's some really nice artwork there.

Draegan · 03-29-2007, 10:54 PM

The dwarf model really looks nice. The PC models look very impressive on all races.

Digits · 03-29-2007, 10:56 PM

The troll in the cave is just about one of the coolest shots of an mmo I've seen yet. It basically looks like a rip from an xbox single player rpg ;p

I cannot believe the turn around in public talk that this game has obtained in the past few months. Just three months back I was arguing that a WoW clone was pointless and that the developers should feel bad for being so uncreative, but AV. 00 (After Vanguard) I've learned how to appreciate care, fluff, and interesting lore. I don't even mind that it's basically DDO instancing, but with genuine story elements thrown in, combined with WoW paced combat with DAoC's class design anymore. Fuck, I'm considering pre ordering it with my brothers and running through the game after I had sworn off online games.

Really, quite the impressive turn around but it still has to run the gauntlet of the unmitigated bitchfest that will be open beta.

Cadrid · 03-29-2007, 11:06 PM

I'm impressed, too. I had heard all sorts of stories from folks "in the know" about it being screwed over by hardcore LOTR fans, but it's actually a fun, good-looking title. Certainly worth the $9.99/mo subscription fee in my book.

Draegan · 03-29-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadrid

I'm impressed, too. I had heard all sorts of stories from folks "in the know" about it being screwed over by hardcore LOTR fans, but it's actually a fun, good-looking title. Certainly worth the $9.99/mo subscription fee in my book.

Exactly why I pre-ordered, $9.99/mo

Anyone know of any good fan-sites out there?

03-29-2007, 06:32 PM	#287 (permalink)
Cadrid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Acton, Massachusetts Posts: 1,829	I only got to play a Captain to around level 15 and didn't do a whole lot of grouping. Anyone get a bit higher that could give a feel for how they were later on? __________________ Fuck Cancer!

03-29-2007, 07:05 PM	#289 (permalink)
TwiNCannoN kill yourself irl Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,216 -1 Internets	Well, minstrels are the only healer in the game - at least the only one worth a damn. So I guess it's fine that they get some perks. Still, they aren't that ridiculous anymore - the last patch toned them down quite a bit (overnerfed some of their skills imo - the devs have a tendency to overnerf, sadly), and they're certainly one of the two worst DPS classes now (not sure if guardian is more/less than minstrel post-patch?). I really wish we got some DoTs and such. It's kind of boring that all of our tier 1 and 2 ballads are the same, except for the buff they give. __________________ i write stuff sometimes

03-29-2007, 09:29 PM	#293 (permalink)
ajiatus Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 332 -3 Internets	Couple of clarifications and random trivia. Minstrels' Achilles's heel is their squishiness and the fact that they draw aggro. Yes you can get medium armor at higher levels, but by doing so you sacrifice other interesting traits. The nuker in LOTRO is the hunter -- just forget that it's arrows instead of flames, the concept is the same. If you like playing mage in WoW the hunter should suit you fine. All classes are very well balanced and hybrids of sorts -- they all have some utility skills that help round out their main skills. The Loremaster is NOT a Nuker. Think more WoW Warlock -- pet class with some DoT ranged spells, debuffs, and best at CC. The Guardian is a fun tank in that it has mostly reactive skills, including a reactive heal. The champion heals are HoTs that depend on the mob dying first, which adds an interesting twist. __________________ There is also the fact that in my opinion... Last edited by ajiatus; 03-29-2007 at 09:31 PM..

03-29-2007, 10:07 PM	#294 (permalink)
TwiNCannoN kill yourself irl Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,216 -1 Internets	The reactive skills really help make combat interesting, especially for burglars who can combo like crazy with criticals. __________________ i write stuff sometimes

03-29-2007, 10:34 PM	#295 (permalink)
Adamar Hammerfell Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 105 -3 Internets	Here are some more screenshots from closed beta. These were taken before I got the high res client, when I was playing my Dwarf Minstrel. __________________

03-29-2007, 06:36 PM	#288 (permalink)
Jabberwhacky Walker told me I have AIDS Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Busan Posts: 3,322	Minstrels sound pretty good, but what's their downside? Totally needed for groups, yet good solo capabilities...is it gonna be like VG where half the servers end up being healers? Besides the obvious nerf to their name. Bards > minstrels. Bards may be spoony, but minstrels are flat out gay. Might as well change the name to minthtrelth.

03-29-2007, 10:41 PM	#296 (permalink)
Maxxius Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: n/a Posts: 1,607 +1 Internets	That's some really nice artwork there.

03-29-2007, 10:54 PM	#297 (permalink)
Draegan ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇̊̋̌̍̎ ̏ Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,585 -20 Internets	The dwarf model really looks nice. The PC models look very impressive on all races.

03-29-2007, 10:56 PM	#298 (permalink)
Digits The good news is that you're still alive. The bad news is that that's the good news. Also, you have no legs. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 'Merica, land of the free. Posts: 1,268 +1 Internets	The troll in the cave is just about one of the coolest shots of an mmo I've seen yet. It basically looks like a rip from an xbox single player rpg ;p I cannot believe the turn around in public talk that this game has obtained in the past few months. Just three months back I was arguing that a WoW clone was pointless and that the developers should feel bad for being so uncreative, but AV. 00 (After Vanguard) I've learned how to appreciate care, fluff, and interesting lore. I don't even mind that it's basically DDO instancing, but with genuine story elements thrown in, combined with WoW paced combat with DAoC's class design anymore. Fuck, I'm considering pre ordering it with my brothers and running through the game after I had sworn off online games. Really, quite the impressive turn around but it still has to run the gauntlet of the unmitigated bitchfest that will be open beta. __________________ Hatcher No one cares where

03-29-2007, 11:06 PM	#299 (permalink)
Cadrid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Acton, Massachusetts Posts: 1,829	I'm impressed, too. I had heard all sorts of stories from folks "in the know" about it being screwed over by hardcore LOTR fans, but it's actually a fun, good-looking title. Certainly worth the $9.99/mo subscription fee in my book. __________________ Fuck Cancer!

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