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Old 02-09-2007, 02:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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why would he risk his job making those T2 BPOs, honestly all are relatively cheap except sabre.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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why would he risk his job making those T2 BPOs, honestly all are relatively cheap except sabre.


if they are trying to cover up the amount of cheating he did, it makes sense.
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Old 02-09-2007, 03:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Because he was obviously using gm-accessible information to help bob prosecute wars, and otherwise cheating in ways that would incriminate other people.

He's taking the fall and hoping it blows over.
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Old 02-09-2007, 03:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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this is bullshit not only did they cheat they lied when they said the devs did nothing wrong...

and now they are clearly lying again, yea he only spawned the worst BPO, suuuuuure
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
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He probably started with the ammo and once he worked out he could get away with it, got himself the sabre bpo.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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When something is this obviously a coverup, and the faction involved decides to jump into a huge war, you KNOW there's more than what's admitted. It's like Clinton bombing baghdad.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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When something is this obviously a coverup, and the faction involved decides to jump into a huge war, you KNOW there's more than what's admitted. It's like Clinton bombing baghdad.
Or, at a minimum, people within CCP who are members of BoB/LV said, "hey look! BoB is about to wage a war people won't expect, which will be big news. Why don't we wait until the war starts and release our information at the same time."

CCP has not done anything since this came out other than to think of how to save face. They already had all the answers.

That's not a stretch from what we know, not by a long shot.

F'ing people.
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So ammunition are the most valued T2 BPOs? Either way, shame on him.
The Sabre and Spike L blueprints are the really significant ones there.
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:26 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Obviously what's been disclosed so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

You can check at Kugutsumen - Powered by vBulletin (do NOT register with ingame name, use a password you've never used before, do it from a brand new e-mail address!) the stuff K. uncovered. There's a lot more.
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Obviously what's been disclosed so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

You can check at Kugutsumen - Powered by vBulletin (do NOT register with ingame name, use a password you've never used before, do it from a brand new e-mail address!) the stuff K. uncovered. There's a lot more.
Be aware that some of my corp mates have found some really inexplicable coincidences when going to that website, you get an almost immediate port scan when you pull up a webpage :P
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Well, of course K. is a self-admitted hacker - you should be really careful.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:28 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Let's not forget last week CCP posted telling the community they were investigating these allegations. Yet, CCP already knew the answers.

CCP banned Kug, the whistleblower.

The only reason I point this out is it is a good lesson of how people operate in their own self interests, and how companies likewise can operate in the corporate world.

(I am going to Edit to add this: I think what Kug did is wrong as far as potentially breaking real life laws in many countries. Perhaps for those reasons he should be banned. However, CCP never weighed in on why they banned Kug. That is to say, perhaps they didn't have proof of what Kug did was actually a bad as it really appeared. Kug said he got the logs from BoB legit by a server dump, or some such thing. This isn't the first time hacking has gone on in Eve, and espionage is allowed. That leaves, to me, an impression CCP could have banned Kug for bringing up an issue that CCP didn't like. )
Kug was a cock gobler that got what he deserved. As for T20, if you can't handle that shit happens when humans are involved then leave EvE.

OMG CCP R RIGGING EVE, (But i'm still gonna play cause i'm a will-less git)
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Hmm, what part of what I said suggests I can't handle it? Not that I care. LOL.

I will continue to play Eve. Just because I am angry about it doesn't mean there is only one option, or that I don't have a decent perspective. It also doesn't mean CCP hasn't made internal changes to crack down on this sort of thing.

Frankly, I don't like it when people manipulate, and that goes well beyond Eve. Big deal.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:18 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Still blows my mind that a guy risks his livelyhood for an advantage in a video game. I've seen people fired for less.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:39 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Still blows my mind that a guy risks his livelyhood for an advantage in a video game. I've seen people fired for less.
People have killed themselves over MMORPGs, ruined their marriages... its not that far-fetched. Games can be fuckin crack.
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