VG sales numbers - Page 4

Sancti · 01-30-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Xen

Well the game looks promising, all negative feedback aside. If nothing else, I hope it suceeds enough to allow Sigil to provide the best product and services to its current and future customers as long as possible.

Competition is a good thing. Having options is a good thing. More than one successful MMO is a good thing.

I never understood the mentality of bashing a game because "you" yourself aren't playing it. I understand half the planet is playing WoW, and it's a very good game for the majority of people playing it. But god damn, do you need to feel so offended and emotionally crippled if someone else doesn't agree, or plays a different game than you?

Because people need to feel that their current MMO choice is being affirmed by other people continuing to play it. If another game comes around that pwnz0rz right after they've put in 2 weeks straight of leveling in BC, then their sunk cost is all for naught.

Eomer · 01-30-2007, 06:25 PM

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I know this is off subject but I already created a thread and don't think a new one needs created...but anyone else notice the entire EULA never mentions Sigil? Since it's Sigil's game shouldn't they be the ones in the EULA not Sony Online Entertainment?

Nope, you bought the game from SOE, all billing is done through SOE, all CS is SOE's, and so on.

I have no idea who actually owns the Vanguard IP, probably still Sigil (which would be unusual, most times the publishers do, but they had plenty of seed funding of their own and they're a unique case).

As for what EQ's first month of sales were upon release, I guarantee it was south of 100k, easily. For some reason 70k jumps out in my mind, but I really have no idea. It took EQ until at least Kunark, maybe even Velious, before it was breaking 400k people.

Dildo Faggins · 01-30-2007, 06:30 PM

Question for the people who bought this already. Does the digital download come with a free month? ANd if not, does the box come with a free month?

Seths · 01-30-2007, 06:40 PM

purchase of the game in any fashion comes with a free month.

Dildo Faggins · 01-30-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Seths

purchase of the game in any fashion comes with a free month.

Thanks. Im a cheap bastard.

Lyenae · 01-30-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Usha Starchild

How many box sales did EQ1 have in its first month? I'm willing to bet less than Vanguard will. It added subscribers over time. People will get bored with Burning Crusade in 45 more days and try it out.

The only way this will happen is 90%+ reviews and good word of mouth.

The link to watch Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Eomer · 01-30-2007, 06:51 PM

I disagree on the reviews part. EQ itself got fairly poor reviews on release, and most reviews were very critical of it's initial stability problems (the first week was quite a disaster, if I remember right).

Word of mouth though will count for a lot. But word of mouth isn't necessarily reflected by review scores. I can guarantee most review sites will have shit out a review by the middle of next week, based on their level 1-20 experience, and will subsequently be useless for gauging the staying potential of the game.

Malakie Torsade · 01-30-2007, 07:16 PM

Surprised to see all the praise as when I played Beta, it ran like crap and was uninspiring. Might have to give it a whirl in a few months when the BC thrill starts to subside.

Anyone a hardcore crafter? How is it? I know it's super early, but do you think there will be a real market that will enable you to do only craft and sell? When I tried crafting, it was interesting but annoying (too many critical events, couldn't figure out how to use tools that were not in my tool belt but in my inventory, etc.) At higher levels, do you specialize further? If I played Vanguard, it would most likely be just to craft, as that is the one area I feel WoW lacks sorely.

Dom Devore · 01-30-2007, 07:21 PM

Anyone know of a site where you can purchase SOE game time cards using paypal? Or does anyone know if there will be separate time cards for Vanguard.

Edit: Nevermind, just got a response from Shattered Crystal letting me know they'll be carrying them soon. It looks like Vanguard will be included in SOE's universal game cards rather than having their own.

Sealody · 01-30-2007, 07:47 PM

I'm willing to give the game another try. Was in beta for over a year and the game ran poorly on my machine. It did get better as time went on tho. Since there's comments on how much improvement the performance has been from beta to retail. That peaked my interest. Unfortunally, I didnt get a chance to log in that final week or so before beta was up as I would have loved to see if there really was an improvement.

Well if nothing else, hopefully they'll have a trial/demo of it where I can install the retail and give it a run for a few days and see for myself. If it truely is better and runs well, I wouldn't mind putting up an all access for the games then.

Every MMO has some limited trial or at least buddy keys. It makes good business sense if they believe their game is ready and good enough to attract new and potential customers.

Wizerud · 01-30-2007, 07:52 PM

The Collectors Edition was supposed to come with 10 buddy keys worth a free 10 day pass (I think).

meStevo · 01-30-2007, 08:17 PM

Looking at Bestbuy.com, 2 locations in Vegas have the Collectors Edition available .... /fidget.

Just kicks my machine's ass to try and play it with any level of reasonable quality (per the last day of beta) and yet still tempting to pick up.

Seths · 01-30-2007, 08:26 PM

Normal game boxes carry 1 ten day buddy pass. At least mine did. The CE carries 10 passes.

Digits · 01-30-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sealody

I'm willing to give the game another try. Was in beta for over a year and the game ran poorly on my machine. It did get better as time went on tho. Since there's comments on how much improvement the performance has been from beta to retail. That peaked my interest. Unfortunally, I didnt get a chance to log in that final week or so before beta was up as I would have loved to see if there really was an improvement.

Waiting is my plan for Vanguard. I said the game needed until at least May to be truly worthwhile and I'll stick to my assessment and see how it pans out. Hopefully I'll be able to get a job that doesn't suck and can afford to upgrade my 3d card alongside my car, but if I don't I don't.

Clowns · 01-30-2007, 09:24 PM

I really don't think the numbers will be that high at all. I've been playing for 3 days and it reminds me a lot of Horizons. Good idea...badly implemented. I went to cancel today because i'm bored as shit playing it and one, or maybe two, people in the lesser giant starting area (on Shildreth), only to find out that they have no record of me ever subscribing in the first place. I check the forums ( 5 of 10 affiliate sites and find out a BUNCH of people are having the same issue). Ah well, back to EQ2 for at least another six months, maybe Conan will be descent...maybe.

01-30-2007, 07:16 PM	#53 (permalink)
Malakie Torsade Genocide Engineer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,911 +9 Internets	Surprised to see all the praise as when I played Beta, it ran like crap and was uninspiring. Might have to give it a whirl in a few months when the BC thrill starts to subside. Anyone a hardcore crafter? How is it? I know it's super early, but do you think there will be a real market that will enable you to do only craft and sell? When I tried crafting, it was interesting but annoying (too many critical events, couldn't figure out how to use tools that were not in my tool belt but in my inventory, etc.) At higher levels, do you specialize further? If I played Vanguard, it would most likely be just to craft, as that is the one area I feel WoW lacks sorely. __________________

01-30-2007, 07:21 PM	#54 (permalink)
Dom Devore Happy Trees! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midkemia Posts: 662	Anyone know of a site where you can purchase SOE game time cards using paypal? Or does anyone know if there will be separate time cards for Vanguard. Edit: Nevermind, just got a response from Shattered Crystal letting me know they'll be carrying them soon. It looks like Vanguard will be included in SOE's universal game cards rather than having their own. __________________ Don't these talking Monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around? Last edited by Dom Devore; 01-30-2007 at 07:25 PM..

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01-30-2007, 06:30 PM	#48 (permalink)
Dildo Faggins Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,275 -63 Internets	Question for the people who bought this already. Does the digital download come with a free month? ANd if not, does the box come with a free month?

01-30-2007, 06:40 PM	#49 (permalink)
Seths Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 390	purchase of the game in any fashion comes with a free month.

01-30-2007, 06:51 PM	#52 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,544 +65 Internets	I disagree on the reviews part. EQ itself got fairly poor reviews on release, and most reviews were very critical of it's initial stability problems (the first week was quite a disaster, if I remember right). Word of mouth though will count for a lot. But word of mouth isn't necessarily reflected by review scores. I can guarantee most review sites will have shit out a review by the middle of next week, based on their level 1-20 experience, and will subsequently be useless for gauging the staying potential of the game.

01-30-2007, 07:47 PM	#55 (permalink)
Sealody Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 552 +4 Internets	I'm willing to give the game another try. Was in beta for over a year and the game ran poorly on my machine. It did get better as time went on tho. Since there's comments on how much improvement the performance has been from beta to retail. That peaked my interest. Unfortunally, I didnt get a chance to log in that final week or so before beta was up as I would have loved to see if there really was an improvement. Well if nothing else, hopefully they'll have a trial/demo of it where I can install the retail and give it a run for a few days and see for myself. If it truely is better and runs well, I wouldn't mind putting up an all access for the games then. Every MMO has some limited trial or at least buddy keys. It makes good business sense if they believe their game is ready and good enough to attract new and potential customers.

01-30-2007, 07:52 PM	#56 (permalink)
Wizerud Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 317 -2 Internets	The Collectors Edition was supposed to come with 10 buddy keys worth a free 10 day pass (I think).

01-30-2007, 08:17 PM	#57 (permalink)
meStevo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,547 +3 Internets	Looking at Bestbuy.com, 2 locations in Vegas have the Collectors Edition available .... /fidget. Just kicks my machine's ass to try and play it with any level of reasonable quality (per the last day of beta) and yet still tempting to pick up.

01-30-2007, 08:26 PM	#58 (permalink)
Seths Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 390	Normal game boxes carry 1 ten day buddy pass. At least mine did. The CE carries 10 passes.

01-30-2007, 09:24 PM	#60 (permalink)
Clowns Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 482 -5 Internets	I really don't think the numbers will be that high at all. I've been playing for 3 days and it reminds me a lot of Horizons. Good idea...badly implemented. I went to cancel today because i'm bored as shit playing it and one, or maybe two, people in the lesser giant starting area (on Shildreth), only to find out that they have no record of me ever subscribing in the first place. I check the forums ( 5 of 10 affiliate sites and find out a BUNCH of people are having the same issue). Ah well, back to EQ2 for at least another six months, maybe Conan will be descent...maybe.