VG sales numbers

[Heavens_Myst]

How the hell is an AOE2 package on that list still

[The Hiram Key]

Originally Posted by tad10

WTF do you care? You don't play the game.

Like a broken record. I know you have lost all sense of logic and reason Tad10, but you do realize that it's possible for people to comment on something in a general sense, without having to actually be knee deep into it to understand whats going on.

Stop trying to drag everyone else in the world onto your sinking ship, thanks.

[vynde]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Like a broken record. I know you have lost all sense of logic and reason Tad10, but you do realize that it's possible for people to comment on something in a general sense, without having to actually be knee deep into it to understand whats going on.

Stop trying to drag everyone else in the world onto your sinking ship, thanks.

regardless of the bugs, the game is pretty damn fun. im not saying its perfect, but fun is fun. im guessing they will see some sales once word of mouth gets out. positive word of mouth that is

[RunningDog]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Sales in the US according to NPD from Jan 28 to Feb 3:

1) World Of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack - Vivendi - $41
2) World Of Warcraft - Vivendi - $20
3) Vanguard: Saga Of Heroes - Sony Online Ent. - $49
4) The Sims 2 - Electronic Arts - $37
5) Deal or No Deal - Global Star Software (Take 2) - $17
6) The Sims 2 Pets Expansion Pack - Electronic Arts - $30
7) Battlefield 2142 - Electronic Arts - $40
8) MS Flight Simulator X Deluxe - Microsoft - $67
9) MS Age Of Empires III - Microsoft - $48
10 MS Age Of Empires 2 Gold - Microsoft - $17

Source: Voodoo Extreme: Top 10 Best Selling US PC Games

It'll be interesting to see where it ends up in the weeks after that.

It was #2 in the UK PC charts for the same week and #38 overall. This last week it wasn't in the top 10.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Heavens_Myst

How the hell is an AOE2 package on that list still

Because PC sales, outside of the top two or three, are shitty volume.

[kohl]

Originally Posted by vynde

regardless of the bugs, the game is pretty damn fun. im not saying its perfect, but fun is fun. im guessing they will see some sales once word of mouth gets out. positive word of mouth that is

What kind of positive word of mouth? You can't say a good thing about the game without following up with "...once they iron out the bugs" or "...blah blah potential".

A few years ago when there was but a small handful of players in the MMORPG field that might have worked, but now there are so many other options that lots of business is going to be lost to people who will gladly look elsewhere.

[Bongk]

Originally Posted by kohl

A few years ago when there was but a small handful of players in the MMORPG field that might have worked, but now there are so many other options that lots of business is going to be lost to people who will gladly look elsewhere.

Where are all these other options?

Wow. I don't like it, it bores me

EQ1? Totally played out for me

AO? totally played out for me been tehre done that.

Eve? I did not like it at all. Quit after 1 hour.

EQ2? It is unfun to me. i am sick of spamming 30 skills and watching everyone with their pocket mentor not want to group.

DAOC? dead in the water.

So where all these options you speak of? For me basically it is VG or watch TV.

[kohl]

Originally Posted by Bongk

Where are all these other options?

Wow. I don't like it, it bores me

EQ1? Totally played out for me

AO? totally played out for me been tehre done that.

Eve? I did not like it at all. Quit after 1 hour.

EQ2? It is unfun to me. i am sick of spamming 30 skills and watching everyone with their pocket mentor not want to group.

DAOC? dead in the water.

So where all these options you speak of? For me basically it is VG or watch TV.

Just from mmorpg alone you have (minus the ones you already listed - sorry, too lazy to remove them from the list)
Not to mention any up and coming MMO's....

* Anarchy Online
* ArchLord
* Asheron's Call
* Auto Assault
* City of Heroes
* City of Villains
* D&D Online
* Dark Age of Camelot
* Dark and Light
* EVE Online
* Everquest
* Everquest II
* Face of Mankind
* Final Fantasy XI
* Guild Wars
* Horizons
* Knight Online
* Lineage II
* MapleStory
* The Matrix Online
* Phantasy Star Universe
* Planetside
* RF Online
* RYL: Unforgiven Wars
* Ragnarok Online
* Roma Victor
* The Saga of Ryzom
* Second Life
* Shadowbane
* Silkroad Online
* Star Wars Galaxies
* Ultima Online
* Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
* World War II Online
* World of Warcraft

[Daelos]

Originally Posted by kohl

What kind of positive word of mouth? You can't say a good thing about the game without following up with "...once they iron out the bugs" or "...blah blah potential".

A few years ago when there was but a small handful of players in the MMORPG field that might have worked, but now there are so many other options that lots of business is going to be lost to people who will gladly look elsewhere.

Vanguard full of bugs is, in my opinion, still more fun than WoW. That's why.

[Bongk]

Originally Posted by kohl

Just from mmorpg alone you have (minus the ones you already listed - sorry, too lazy to remove them from the list)
Not to mention any up and coming MMO's....

* Anarchy Online
* ArchLord
* Asheron's Call
* Auto Assault
* City of Heroes
* City of Villains
* D&D Online
* Dark Age of Camelot
* Dark and Light
* EVE Online
* Everquest
* Everquest II
* Face of Mankind
* Final Fantasy XI
* Guild Wars
* Horizons
* Knight Online
* Lineage II
* MapleStory
* The Matrix Online
* Phantasy Star Universe
* Planetside
* RF Online
* RYL: Unforgiven Wars
* Ragnarok Online
* Roma Victor
* The Saga of Ryzom
* Second Life
* Shadowbane
* Silkroad Online
* Star Wars Galaxies
* Ultima Online
* Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
* World War II Online
* World of Warcraft

You listed a pile of shit, most of that are not viable options. Honestly it is VG, EQ2, WoW or quit for the msot part. And WoW and EQ2 are out for me.

[Draegan]

Heh any list with RFO, SilkRoad and SWG on it automatically becomes pointless.

EDIT:
Or any codemaster korean port. Ugh.

[vynde]

Originally Posted by kohl

What kind of positive word of mouth? You can't say a good thing about the game without following up with "...once they iron out the bugs" or "...blah blah potential".

A few years ago when there was but a small handful of players in the MMORPG field that might have worked, but now there are so many other options that lots of business is going to be lost to people who will gladly look elsewhere.

positive word of mouth as in "its fun" instead of "its full of bugs but still fun". sigil seems to be good at fixing the bugs so the really annoying shit should be gone some time in march.

[RunningDog]

Originally Posted by vynde

positive word of mouth as in "its fun" instead of "its full of bugs but still fun". sigil seems to be good at fixing the bugs so the really annoying shit should be gone some time in march.

I think this "positive word of mouth" is somewhat delusional. It's getting positive responses from people who like the idea of a tough and unforgiving game world and don't mind putting up with the bugs. I don't believe that's a big market and so far (which admittedly is only two weeks of data) the sales charts would prove that opinion right. It certainly isn't getting many favours in the couple of reviews I've seen.

That isn't to say there won't be enough players to keep Vanguard going for years. The game isn't aimed at the WoW playerbase after all, it only needs enough subscribers to keep paying for its servers. But I do get the feeling that most of the people who like the idea of the game have already bought it, and one of the things they like about the game is that it doesn't cater to the majority.

[Greyform]

Originally Posted by RunningDog

I think this "positive word of mouth" is somewhat delusional. It's getting positive responses from people who like the idea of a tough and unforgiving game world and don't mind putting up with the bugs. I don't believe that's a big market and so far (which admittedly is only two weeks of data) the sales charts would prove that opinion right. It certainly isn't getting many favours in the couple of reviews I've seen.

That isn't to say there won't be enough players to keep Vanguard going for years. The game isn't aimed at the WoW playerbase after all, it only needs enough subscribers to keep paying for its servers. But I do get the feeling that most of the people who like the idea of the game have already bought it, and one of the things they like about the game is that it doesn't cater to the majority.

I hope you're wrong about that, the game could use a few thousand more folks to flesh it out.

It would be interesting to see what the box and DL sells were, but I am hoping that there are a lot of folks in the wait and see mode still.

at level 16 armor smith and 20th on my server for items in use by other players, I am still below 40K place on work orders, so there must a pretty good number of folks who are playing this game.

We could use more though, have hammer will smith...

[vynde]

Originally Posted by RunningDog

I think this "positive word of mouth" is somewhat delusional. It's getting positive responses from people who like the idea of a tough and unforgiving game world and don't mind putting up with the bugs.

what is wrong with a challenge? if i didnt like challenges i would still be on my paladin spamming the flash of light key to get ph4t l3wtz.

I don't believe that's a big market and so far (which admittedly is only two weeks of data) the sales charts would prove that opinion right. It certainly isn't getting many favours in the couple of reviews I've seen.

yeah i dont think too many people like the idea of going from ez mode WoW to vg.