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Old 02-06-2007, 02:41 AM   #256 (permalink)
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Official UK full price PC games charts (week ending Feb 03)

1 World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
2 Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
3 Football Manager 2007
4 FIFA 07
5 The Sims 2: Pets
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Bear in mind that TBC is only #18 in the "all games" charts so while #2 in the PC chart for Vanguard is a great position, in terms of units sold it might not be all that much

*edit* Vanguard is #34 in the "all games" charts

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Old 02-09-2007, 10:27 AM   #257 (permalink)
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Official UK full price PC games charts (week ending Feb 03)

1 World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
2 Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
3 Football Manager 2007
4 FIFA 07
5 The Sims 2: Pets
...

ELSPA

Bear in mind that TBC is only #18 in the "all games" charts so while #2 in the PC chart for Vanguard is a great position, in terms of units sold it might not be all that much

*edit* Vanguard is #34 in the "all games" charts
I just hope the population of vanguard beefs up a bit. I may just be on a shit continent that is martok but finding groups is tough.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:51 AM   #258 (permalink)
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I just hope the population of vanguard beefs up a bit. I may just be on a shit continent that is martok but finding groups is tough.


Well many people don't want to deal with the clusterfuck faction stuff.
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:36 PM   #259 (permalink)
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Orcs are cool and everything -- but to roll one means you have to spend at least a 12 hours to a day played for CB/Tanu faction and then another 12 hours to a day played for Khal. And then once you do that you just spend the rest of the time in the CB/Khal/etc areas cause no one in CB/Khal is fucking with Martok faction until they hit 50 (fwiw one of my regular group is a goblin he's got like 2k CB faction -- just ground newbie mobs early on).

So its not population its faction. Anyway get your faction up and move to the populated areas.
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:36 PM   #260 (permalink)
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The game is just like eq, it also has some similar bugs and running across the world just to get into an xp group.

I'm already burnt out and haven't logged in for atleast 2-3 days. Maybe I just have more RL responsibilities, but after a hard days work I just don't feel like playing. I think I'm getting old =(
I'm exactly in the same situation. I don't know if it's me getting older, or if the genre evolved and grinding hours for not-so-much XP is just not fun and "third gen".
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Old 02-09-2007, 12:43 PM   #261 (permalink)
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So its not population its faction. Anyway get your faction up and move to the populated areas.
Ooh! That sounds fun!

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Old 02-09-2007, 01:00 PM   #262 (permalink)
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Well many people don't want to deal with the clusterfuck faction stuff.
If they wanted an E-Z Mode MMORPG they should have played WoW.
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Old 02-09-2007, 01:04 PM   #263 (permalink)
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It's not a case that its ezmode the case is that there is numerous disadvanatages to being evil and no advanatges of any kind. Why should 1 faction have so many disadvantages with no advantages of any kind?

I am told this will be changed, we shall see.
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Old 02-09-2007, 01:29 PM   #264 (permalink)
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It's not a case that its ezmode the case is that there is numerous disadvanatages to being evil and no advanatges of any kind. Why should 1 faction have so many disadvantages with no advantages of any kind?

I am told this will be changed, we shall see.
'Cuz Orcs and Goblins look cool?
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Old 02-09-2007, 01:58 PM   #265 (permalink)
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It's not a case that its ezmode the case is that there is numerous disadvanatages to being evil and no advanatges of any kind. Why should 1 faction have so many disadvantages with no advantages of any kind?
Did you play EQ? EQ1 was the same. I remember when I made my first character there was a warning that this class/race combo was high difficulty. In fact I picked an evil character based on that warning. The faction wasn't really more than an annoyance, but it sure was satisfying when I was no longer kos with a city. In the long run it didn't even matter. I really don't think it's a big deal. If it is something that bothers you, don't play an evil class.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:18 PM   #266 (permalink)
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Did you play EQ? EQ1 was the same. I remember when I made my first character there was a warning that this class/race combo was high difficulty. In fact I picked an evil character based on that warning. The faction wasn't really more than an annoyance, but it sure was satisfying when I was no longer kos with a city. In the long run it didn't even matter. I really don't think it's a big deal. If it is something that bothers you, don't play an evil class.
So because one game made a dumb choice 7 years ago it is ok to do it again? And evils did have some minor advanatages in original EQ. In VG i have a hard ass time traveling (especially on thestra) I have less quests to do, less places to train, less places to buy and sell, less access to thr world basically.

But because EQ did it 7 years ago it is ok? You rational about don't play it is stupid as is your EQ example as if that makes it ok. Both factions should be equal or evil should have better racials or some superior quests that goodies cant get without faction grinding themselves or something.

Why don;t we sit and stare at a spell book and med for 5 mins, you kow because EQ did it.... Fortunately the dev i spoke to about it agreed with me and said changes are coming and doesn't share your opinion.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:45 PM   #267 (permalink)
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Well I'm a Giant and I've played pretty casual the last week. I've seen two other players so far. Both in the crafting hall. Yet to run into another player out questing or killing yet although I'm only around lvl 10 now...but it does make one wonder.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:55 PM   #268 (permalink)
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A world too large combined with a launch too poor makes for an experience too desolate.
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A world too large combined with a launch too poor makes for an experience too desolate.
/agree the launch could have been better (where was the advertising outside the hardcore MMO base?) but he really just needs to get to one of the bigger cities instead of hanging out in Halgarad which is in the middle of nowhere.

Which goes to the whole evil race needing to grind faction issue we were talking about.

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As to Bongk's comment -- give me a frucking break man -- I can think of a game where half the population can't ever talk to the other half - let alone ever become non-KOS in their cities.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:43 PM   #270 (permalink)
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Yes...and it limits you so terribly in your early days. -rolls eyes-

Ya know Tad...I understand you love VG and have to jump on everyone you think is being a dick about your new love. But the more dick jumping you do...the more you look like one.
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