and we're off?

[joz123]

Bronzebeard just asploded. Cant talk to npc's, cant get off mount, cant zone out, etc. Cant logout either hah.

[Stonepaw]

Anyone else get two bigass posters from EBgames?(In toronto I did anyway) im just downloading the tbc patch now. Account upgrading went flawlessly


I also got a free Gilette razor.

[joz123]

No but bestbuy was doin some shit where you can buy a world atlas thing for 2 bucks if you boughbt it there or free if you buy the strategy guide for it. Funny thing was the guy came outside to tell us that they didnt get the shipment of em haha

[Slick Willey]

Originally Posted by Sinter1

I'll stick to a game with meaningless timesinks that artificially prolong the "content".

Fixed.

[Samflam]

Originally Posted by Stonepaw

Anyone else get two bigass posters from EBgames?(In toronto I did anyway) im just downloading the tbc patch now. Account upgrading went flawlessly


I also got a free Gilette razor.

Toronto here too.
I guess I just can't say no to free shit. I knew when they asked if I wanted the posters I'd never put them up, but instantly I heard myself say sure.

[Matt or Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Draegan

I had a good time as well. I ran around checked stuff out. Got FP's all the way to Shat, got first aid and my prof's trained. Did a single quest where you had to burn four towers, then did Ramparts. It was a great time. Tonight perhaps another Rampart run if my guild wants to, but I wanna start exploring and doing the quest lines. I gathered a crap load of quests now I want to read em and get going.

I want the journey to 70 to last. I do not want to be stuck at the end game cap like last time.

This is what kills me. People on my server are level 63 atm, which is expected; however, how long can this content last?

Many people have waited almost one and a half years for this expantion, and although blizzard has supplied it's community with handouts much like the chips i get at a mexican restraunt, i feel like in the end i'll just end up in a similar position with food thats not as great as i hoped for.

In addition, i feel like very little is left for me to imagine to occure in these next 10 levels. I hate to say the words "when i played everquest," but back then, when an expantion came out, i was not thinking about the next one [expantion]. I was impressed with an ever changing world that often both surprised me and kept me attentive.

Saddly, even though i have a pretty decent amount of content ahead of me, i just don't feel like it's unique nor developed (which is pretty arrogant of me to say, but honest), and i'm realy dissapointed that the only thing on my mind is how i hope the game will be improved upon eventually.

Good luck to you Dreagan, i hope i can find a way to milk all the fun also.

P.S. Fuck that loot link mod, i'm always this close >--< to turrning off my general chat, my auction chat, my guild chat etc...

[Tyen]

Originally Posted by Matt or Jennifer

and although blizzard has supplied it's community with handouts much like the chips i get at a mexican restraunt

lol

[Brando]

For the average person like myself (plays 2-3 hours a day) this content will last a while. I've already played 4 hours in Hellfire and I'm just barely halfway to 61.

I also have no idea where you are coming from in regards to no unique or developed content. Just doing bombing runs right off the bat and seeing the sky as you fly back is amazing. If the rest of the zone's are as well thought out and put toghether as Hellfire then I can't see how anybody would think that as Hellfire is probably the best zone in WoW I've ever been in.

[Lambourne]

Prime time on my (fairly busy) server went by without huge problems. Of course, Hellfire peninsula got quite laggy and wasn't a pleasant place to be because of the massive crowds all running the same quests. However, we ran some of the starting instances instead and they were lagfree and fun. Got some nice drops too (most blues equal or superior to T1/T2).

Drop of the day had to be this though: Thottbot World of Warcraft: The Stoppable Force

[Twobit Whore]

haha the stoppable force wins.

[Matt or Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Brando

For the average person like myself (plays 2-3 hours a day) this content will last a while. I've already played 4 hours in Hellfire and I'm just barely halfway to 61.

I also have no idea where you are coming from in regards to no unique or developed content. Just doing bombing runs right off the bat and seeing the sky as you fly back is amazing. If the rest of the zone's are as well thought out and put toghether as Hellfire then I can't see how anybody would think that as Hellfire is probably the best zone in WoW I've ever been in.

Surely aspects of the game will be new and fun, i guess my statement should be interpreted this way:

I have spent some time watching my roomate play the beta, and my friend has been playing all night. I've lookup up quests, tradeskills and loot (i guess you could say i dug my own hole in this regaurd, but that's not the point), and although you may not agree, and i would encourage you to think according to your playstyle (not mine), i feel like i just was sold the same game i bought originally.

Sometime, i even see less: when i see the items linked, they look like similar items i've had in the past, just with some larger numbers (actually, they are dumbed down versions, suited to impress people that love min/max). Sure i can do new things, and the 5 man content is going to entertain me, but i don't think the game was expanded upon in a way that I would have hoped for. It's not going to immerse me anymore then i have been, and i would realy enjoy playing WoW for it's RPG element, rather than it's MMO factor.

I'm not trying to be a "hater," or give this impression that i want everquest again. I am of the oppinion that WoW has done a great disservice to many developers by showing the proffit that occures from a "dumbed-down" presentation, and i would like to see this powerhouse game/company diversify rather than simplify, leading the way into a competitive gaming (MMORPG) community.

(what i realy want is some fucking mounted combat)

[Kasonic]

BC is better than vanilla WoW in every fucking way possible. Saying this is a travesty of the industry because Blizzard actually understands their mechanics(or sorry, dumbs them down) and and so doesn't make a ton of completely useless items no one will ever want is simply hilarious.

Seeing the "When I was a kid" philosophy go into effect with WoW already is kind of annoying.

[Ravensign]

Originally Posted by Matt or Jennifer

"dumbed-down" presentation

Whoa, I think you and I use presentation differently.

[Kildace]

Originally Posted by Kasonic

BC is better than vanilla WoW in every fucking way possible. Saying this is a travesty of the industry because Blizzard actually understands their mechanics and and so doesn't make a ton of completely useless items no one will ever want is simply hilarious.

Seeing the "When I was a kid" philosophy go into effect with WoW already is kind of annoying.

I think that what he's saying is that while the basic concept was refined and improved upon, there isn't anything fundamentally new in the expansion. The 5 mans are better but they're still 5 mans, the zones are prettier but they're still basic zones that don't have anything distinctive that couldn't have been in the basic game (aside from Flying Mounts support).
Kunark introduced the raiding game and clicky effects on items. Vellious had the whole faction thing + armor quests + expansion wide progression with keyed zones. Luclin .. Luclin was shit. PoP had flags, PoK, Instancing. WoW BC is probably good, very polished and fun, but it does not introduce content that greatly differs from what you have been doing during the last 2 years. Flying Mounts are the exception but they're just a way of getting faster from point A to point B and don't have an impact on the gameplay.

And I agree that WoW's itemization is an uninspired Diablo / Vanilla EQ ripoff and miss the days when items had cool clickys / procs that set you appart from the people from your class who didn't have them. Yes it made some items hard to replace before the end of the next expansion, but it's not like it's any different with set bonuses.
And before you WoW enthousiasts rip into me, I'm aware of the existence of Thunderfury. I just wish there were more items as unique as it is.

[Gaereth]

That would be like saying, "Dude, why does the expansion on your house match the original structure?? Why didn't you just build it when you built the house??"

While it may match the original it definately adds to the game.

Some of the encounters in the 5 mans are some of the best in the game, and the hardest. Faction choices were introduced ala Luclin, albiet just 2. There is progression to actually reach some of the end game zones (flagging). And its fun.

Closing the gear gap is also a wonderful thing. It never got as silly as EQ did but in a PvP game it has to be dealt with.

Its a pretty nifty, shiny new toy.