and we're off?

[Xequecal]

Right now, if you're lucky enough to have Enchanting/Tailoring as your trade skills, it's basically a license to print money. Runecloth prices have crashed because nobody is making the bandages anymore and TBC MOBs still drop it. All the farmers are dumping their supplies onto the AH as well. At the same time, enchanting material prices are astronomically high. Vision Dust is going for 1g each on my server. If you're Enchanting/Tailoring, you can just buy out the AH of Runecloth and Ironweb Spider Silk and make Runecloth Cloaks out of it at a cost of 2-2.5g per cloak. Then you can disenchant the cloaks for Dream Dust and Lesser Eternal Essences and sell these for twice what you just paid.

[MrGraham]

So I was looking for a guide on new instances and levels and came across this:

http://www.giddygamer.com/wow/conten..._instances.pdf

Is this right? 12 5 man instances (10 Outlands, 2 CoT, not counting heroic versions), 5 25 mans (4 outlands, 1 CoT), 1 10 man (Kharazan), and 1 unknown (Zul'Aman)???

Man, when I heard the biggest raids were going to be 25 my guild that can field ~10-15 was hoping that meant a bunch more 10 and 15 sized raids. Guess not.

I hope the 5 mans are interesting enough to keep me playing some this time around. I was hoping to be able to raid in both WoW and EQ2, but I guess I'll focus on EQ2.

[Torrid]

Okay, since this seems to be a generic TBC topic thread, and since I don't want to start a new thread even though I feel it is warrented in this rant, but...

What the fuck is up with TBC itemization? I've not only seen near duplicates of many items as quest rewards, but in one case I've seen literally IDENTICAL rewards with different names from different quests-- from the SAME NPC. If thottbot wasn't fucked up right now, I'd link them.

I mean shit, how many ToEPs do we need? And why do you want me to be able to hit reds 100% of the time, Blizzard? Meanwhile crit rating is retardedly rare.

Hunter rewards especially make me cry. I haven't upgraded any of my blue PvP shit (I'm 70) because I like my crit rating. Why give us new abilities that only function when we get critical strikes, then not give us any crit rating? Does any hunter really want MP5 or tons of int on all their shit? I never had any mana problems in any instance, or anywhere for that matter. (but I don't raid. nobody is going to raid in greens anyway)

[Golbez]

Originally Posted by Torrid

Meanwhile crit rating is retardedly rare.

I'm finding the exact opposite for casters.

I'm sitting at 19% crit on my mag without talents.

[Nehrak]

Originally Posted by Torrid

Why give us new abilities that only function when we get critical strikes, then not give us any crit rating?

I would have posted a screenshot, but I'm in a little hurry, so I'll just say this:

Hunters don't crit enough already?

[Torrid]

Originally Posted by Nehrak

I would have posted a screenshot, but I'm in a little hurry, so I'll just say this:

Hunters don't crit enough already?

The days of hunters having a substantially higher crit rate than casters are over. Blizzard's caster itemization has improved dramatically. However hunter itemization has seemingly taken a fucking nosedive.

[Samflam]

Can I have some +STR on enhancement gear... or is that asking too much?

[Plorkyeran]

Originally Posted by Xequecal

Right now, if you're lucky enough to have Enchanting/Tailoring as your trade skills, it's basically a license to print money. Runecloth prices have crashed because nobody is making the bandages anymore and TBC MOBs still drop it. All the farmers are dumping their supplies onto the AH as well. At the same time, enchanting material prices are astronomically high. Vision Dust is going for 1g each on my server. If you're Enchanting/Tailoring, you can just buy out the AH of Runecloth and Ironweb Spider Silk and make Runecloth Cloaks out of it at a cost of 2-2.5g per cloak. Then you can disenchant the cloaks for Dream Dust and Lesser Eternal Essences and sell these for twice what you just paid.

While that's what I expected to happen, for some reason on Cenarius Runecloth is selling for 2-3g per stack (compared to ~1g pre TBC). I have no clue wtf is going on with the economy, but it was pretty nice to be able to take the runecloth I was planning to use on an Elekk and turn it into enough Netherweave to hit 360 tailoring, and then get disgustingly rich off Imbued Netherweave Bags. 5-10 minutes of Netherweb farming + 30g of mats turns into a 60g bag that sells instantly.

[Dis]

Originally Posted by Plorkyeran

While that's what I expected to happen, for some reason on Cenarius Runecloth is selling for 2-3g per stack (compared to ~1g pre TBC). I have no clue wtf is going on with the economy, but it was pretty nice to be able to take the runecloth I was planning to use on an Elekk and turn it into enough Netherweave to hit 360 tailoring, and then get disgustingly rich off Imbued Netherweave Bags. 5-10 minutes of Netherweb farming + 30g of mats turns into a 60g bag that sells instantly.

My guess is the market is trying to adjust to the influx of gold on TBC. I think we can all say that the quest rewards, vendor prices from items, hell even fish from fishing that sell for 6g to a vendor are an effort by Blizzard to fight gold farming AND gold grinding. I think a lot of people are generally clueless as to what is the ACTUAL value of items are now.

Just an example, at 65 I have made approx. 700-800g on just selling greens outright, selling my quest rewards, actuall gold quest rewards and white/grey vendor trash. I have yet to play the AH game, but I am FINALLY swimming in gold. Blizzard gets an A+++++ among many A+++++ for this design.

[Asmadai]

Originally Posted by Torrid

I mean shit, how many ToEPs do we need?

Quoted for truth. The amount of these is a tad fucking ridiculous.

[Ravensign]

Originally Posted by Torrid

The days of hunters having a substantially higher crit rate than casters are over. Blizzard's caster itemization has improved dramatically. However hunter itemization has seemingly taken a fucking nosedive.

As a casual style player these days, I think TBC has for the first time gotten caster itemization right.

There was time back in the very old days where "int caster", as we used to say, gear had very little impact on the player relative to the huge gains melee characters got every time a new weapon dropped, etc.

Even at the start of WoW, looking at say, Magister's which was meant as a casual armor set, there is very little +spell damage from even a full set. Now, in TBC, every slot I have has the potential to effect my damage or crit rate, and upgrading gear is both effective and fun.

For casters at least, this is how gear should be done.

[Ravensign]

Originally Posted by Asmadai

Quoted for truth. The amount of these is a tad fucking ridiculous.

I reckon the designers figured all dps and healing classes should get more burst ability through itemization across the board rather than make ability modifications.

A month ago, the people with a TOEP or ZHC or even DIE or whathaveyou was a relatively small % of the pop, now, people with the Overlord trinket or whatever are going to just be an assumed balance point of the class.

[joz123]

Edit: Nm.

[Witoubo]

Originally Posted by realadxm

I'm liking the dungeons but i've seen a striking resemblance to things from EQ.

For example. Aviaks in Southern Karana vs the birds Sethekk Halls. It may just be me but it reminds me of EQ. I've even seen flowing thought items popping up as well. Doesn't bother me as i like adventuring in a world where things seem familare and i can progress my character from EQ1 through WoW

The bird people in WoW are pretty much a direct translation of the Skeksis in The Dark Crystal. There are a few jokes scattered in quest dialog. I've been waiting for one of them to scream "GELFLING!" at me.

Skeksis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess Furor liked that movie when he was a kid.

[Man0warr]

Their city is called Skettis too. They look like animorphic ravens instead of vultures though.