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| Genocide Engineer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Georgia
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+10 Internets | [WoW] Server Splits From : WoW Forums -> Beta Test - Realm Splitting Quote:
Would a split suck for Horde on a PvE server? Icecrown, for example, is currently listed as "Full." However, the Horde population isn't great. When I was in my old raiding guild, we were 3rd progress-wise on the server and recruiting sucked. The pool of people to pull from was just sad and we had to end up merging with another guild. Looking at our progression list, it appears there are about 13 Alliance guilds in AQ or higher, but only 5 Horde guilds. A server split would be a crushing blow to Horde raiding guilds and would create a domino effect on the Horde population. Population-wise, Garona is in the same boat. Are most other PvE servers the same? Prior to about 3 weeks ago, were other PvE servers experiencing significant, persistent ques? Icecrown hasn't had ques for months, and even on the very rare occasion I did see one, it would be about 20 people long with like a 1 minute wait time. I cannot imagine a server split being good for Horde, barring servers where the the population of Team Thrall is large (see, PvP servers.) The raid limit being lowered would be a cushion, but you still have issues trying to get PUG groups for instances. On the other hand, I don't have a good solution. Well, they could and should make ques faction based, but will never, ever do that. EDIT : Bolded questions to make it easier to read. | |
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| Tunare's most surly gnome Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Upstate NY
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| This is really quite necessary. Voluntary transfers off of congested servers has NOT worked. So what needs to be done at this point is a solid and mandatory split and one where you start out with one server name and end up with two different server names so that no one feels like they got shunted off to a second-class server (everyone gets shunted off and the server name is retired). I'd even go so far as to say the new server names should be hidden from people during the split process so that you dont end up with people swarming to a cooler named one. |
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| Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas
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The problem they keep dancing around is the Alliance having many, many more players than the Horde. Someday maybe they will get that is what they ought to be addressing. | |
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| Avatar won't work. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...
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+1 Internets | no remant of the server name shoudl remain either. blackhand shouldn't split to blackhand and gooberhand. it should just become two unrlated names so as to prevent "well i'm staying withblackhand". |
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| Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002
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| Does anyone else think this sounds like a terrible idea? I mean, at best you will average out the high-population side a bit more but completely ruin the side that is low on pop. Unless the server is equally maxed this can only be a bad thing. More so, I myself choose severs based on population. I like to |
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| The Infinitely Prolonged Join Date: Nov 2003
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| The biggest problem I see is that it implies your characters could be split between the realms. IMHO the account should move all it's characters to the same realm. Keeping guild and arena teams together is smart, however it is only if the individual fails to make a choice. So if I'm out of town on business and can't log in to make a choice, I'll go wherever the guild goes. Good move. However, again that's a per-character issue. Since you could have two characters in two different guilds, this poses a problem, which is probably why they have de-linked accounts from characters in this process. The only safe way to ensure all your characters move to a specific server is to make a choice yourself. Time will tell if they give enough warning to account for those who do not have a chance to make a choice. |
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| Registered User Join Date: May 2002
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| Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit
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+75 Internets | Being able to choose which server to go to is nice. Will be interesting to see what happens. I imagine that Mal'Ganis will be one of the first to be split, not just because of the number of players and raiding guilds (50 some nef killing guilds), but also because of game-wide popularity of some of the guilds like Aurora, Ret and Elitist Jerks. Hopefully they'll try the first server split with very few rules that would prevent people from going to a server of their choice and see what happens. I imagine that for MG most of the top 50 guilds would go to the same server, not just because I'd rather fight the top horde guilds, but also because most of my friends are in the top alliance guilds and I'd prefer to keep recruiting from the "Slightly Less Than Us" guilds that happen to be in the top 50. Going to a server without good recruits is death for most raiding guilds. |
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| Inside Man Join Date: May 2003 Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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| Perhaps they are hoping the new blood elf mangina contingent will make up the difference? Regardless, low population Horde servers are going to be impacted severely by this and I wish I had an idea to help alleviate it. I don't. |
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| Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006
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| Perhaps the splits could be faction specific? A merging/split hybrid thing. You could take some of the alliance from a low-horde server and some horde from a high-horde server and make a balanced server, while leaving 2 balanced serves in the wake.
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| BUBBLES THE MONKEY!!! | Quote:
For balanced servers and raid guild heavy servers, this is a good idea but as said before, with faction specific low pops, it's going to be horrible. | |
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| Loves teh Chub Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida
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Although your idea would be awesome if they could implement it. I've always been a fan of taking all these "new" servers that blizzard created back when they were opening new servers every few weeks which are low pop and merging two into one and opening the now empty realm into a transfer server for ridiculously high pop servers. | |
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| Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas
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For it to work, the Alliance offering would have had to be far less appealing than the Horde offering and that is not the case IMO. I dont think the new race/class choices will affect the populations at all. Quote:
Looks to me like there is a whopping 1 US PvE or RP server with a clear Horde majority, Blackhand. lol And if you look at activity ratio instead of straight character population...Blackhand Horde is no longer a majority. Last edited by Hozz; 01-08-2007 at 03:03 PM.. | ||
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| Formidable Armored Bear Join Date: Mar 2002
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+27 Internets | WTB betrayal quests. Human -> Food Poisoning -> Undead Gnome -> Experiment gone tragically wrong -> Tauren Night Elf -> Too much "Emerald Dream" -> Troll Dwarf -> Steroid abuse -> Orc
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