Tabula Rasa - Page 19

ajiatus · 06-16-2007, 11:59 AM

My five cents on NDAs. Yes, it's a breach whether it's long or short, positive or negative. At the same time, I would be very surprised to see a firm sue someone for giving positive publicity without revealing any trade secrets or other damaging or secret information that will adversely impact the marketing or sale of the product. You see, you usually need to establish damages in a cause of action, and if there are no damages that can be proved then it's a dog of a case to take to Court. So as far as Aria is concerned, that's a no no, as far as Arbuste, it's much more foggy since he is simply confirming information that's already publicly available and not harming the makers of TR. There you go, my five cents, do not sue me for malpractice this is not meant to be legal advice, and all those disclaimers.
/rant is off.

Aria · 06-16-2007, 02:02 PM

Anyways, I guess my opinion is unpopular, but again it's just my opinion. I honestly just don't think the game (at least in it's current state) is something that's going to be groundbreaking. Obviously a lot of people enjoy it, so just take what I said as a personal opinion. If people have a problem with us breaking NDA then I just won't post in this thread anymore.

Zerai · 06-16-2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aria

Anyways, I guess my opinion is unpopular, but again it's just my opinion. I honestly just don't think the game (at least in it's current state) is something that's going to be groundbreaking. Obviously a lot of people enjoy it, so just take what I said as a personal opinion. If people have a problem with us breaking NDA then I just won't post in this thread anymore.

I have no problem with other people breaking NDAs~

Lyenae · 06-16-2007, 02:33 PM

People should continue to break any/all nda's, it's pro consumer.

The sooner companies realize that they can't both get free Q&A and control all information about the game before it hits the shelf, the sooner they'll either stop making shitty games (consumer wins), or they'll hire real test teams (consumer wins)

Any pro-NDA people are really just faggots who think consumers should get fucked before a business's bottom line.

FoghornDeadhorn · 06-16-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyenae

People should continue to break any/all nda's, it's pro consumer.

The sooner companies realize that they can't both get free Q&A and control all information about the game before it hits the shelf, the sooner they'll either stop making shitty games (consumer wins), or they'll hire real test teams (consumer wins)

Any pro-NDA people are really just faggots who think consumers should get fucked before a business's bottom line.

That really depends on whether the NDA is held til launch. NDAs have a purpose that I respect, but one that's held too long says "we have something to hide."

Kodylan · 06-16-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyenae

People should continue to break any/all nda's, it's pro consumer.

The sooner companies realize that they can't both get free Q&A and control all information about the game before it hits the shelf, the sooner they'll either stop making shitty games (consumer wins), or they'll hire real test teams (consumer wins)

Any pro-NDA people are really just faggots who think consumers should get fucked before a business's bottom line.

Whether it's pro-consumer or not, it's a legally binding contract you agree to. That said, I agree with you that game companies getting rid of NDA's is a good idea. Just look at WoW.

Soygen · 06-16-2007, 03:35 PM

WoW had an NDA. They just got rid of it while there was still quite a bit of beta testing left. I agree with Foghorn.

Aria · 06-16-2007, 05:40 PM

WoW in any case is more the exception rather than the rule. It's a behemoth that started out great and came out even greater. Unfortunately most MMO's are nothing more than a dream that is never fully realized, IMO of course.

Draegan · 06-16-2007, 06:08 PM

When I legally agree to something, I tend to keep it. It's just good practice.

Arbuste · 06-16-2007, 06:46 PM

When I legally agree to something, I tend to not try very hard to keep it if I think I can get away with it. At least when it's unimportant and harmless for both parties. Could even be beneficial for TR, who knows. In any case, I don't think it hurts anybody.
The only reason a thread like this is worth reading is for the NDA breaking bean spilling stuff.

TwiNCannoN · 06-17-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Larion

btw how the fuck do you break an NDA you never signed?

I'm guessing your question was rhetorical since *he* said he broke it, but yeah, obviously it's his "friend" or such who broke it in that case.

Kodylan · 06-17-2007, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soygen

WoW had an NDA. They just got rid of it while there was still quite a bit of beta testing left. I agree with Foghorn.

WoW did not have an NDA during beta, which is what I was addressing, since Tabula Rasa is obviously in beta right now.

Cybsled · 06-17-2007, 04:07 AM

WoW had a NDA in the extremely early friends n' family "alpha" phase. It didn't last long, though, in the scheme of things.

xregg · 06-17-2007, 05:06 AM

here is a high def vid of some game play.

Tabula Rasa - Compound Infiltration Gameplay HD

darrin · 06-17-2007, 05:29 AM

without me reading 19pages.

is it good or not.

because the beta's in im now i can sum up in 1 word.

Gods and Heroes: No
Fury: Yes

06-16-2007, 11:59 AM	#271 (permalink)
ajiatus Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 275 -3 Internets	My five cents on NDAs. Yes, it's a breach whether it's long or short, positive or negative. At the same time, I would be very surprised to see a firm sue someone for giving positive publicity without revealing any trade secrets or other damaging or secret information that will adversely impact the marketing or sale of the product. You see, you usually need to establish damages in a cause of action, and if there are no damages that can be proved then it's a dog of a case to take to Court. So as far as Aria is concerned, that's a no no, as far as Arbuste, it's much more foggy since he is simply confirming information that's already publicly available and not harming the makers of TR. There you go, my five cents, do not sue me for malpractice this is not meant to be legal advice, and all those disclaimers. /rant is off. __________________ There is also the fact that in my opinion...

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Draegan Don't Look Now Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,686 -26 Internets	When I legally agree to something, I tend to keep it. It's just good practice. __________________

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Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,269 +15 Internets	WoW had a NDA in the extremely early friends n' family "alpha" phase. It didn't last long, though, in the scheme of things. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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06-16-2007, 02:02 PM	#272 (permalink)
Aria Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 764 -2 Internets	Anyways, I guess my opinion is unpopular, but again it's just my opinion. I honestly just don't think the game (at least in it's current state) is something that's going to be groundbreaking. Obviously a lot of people enjoy it, so just take what I said as a personal opinion. If people have a problem with us breaking NDA then I just won't post in this thread anymore.

06-16-2007, 02:33 PM	#274 (permalink)
Lyenae Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,975 -27 Internets	People should continue to break any/all nda's, it's pro consumer. The sooner companies realize that they can't both get free Q&A and control all information about the game before it hits the shelf, the sooner they'll either stop making shitty games (consumer wins), or they'll hire real test teams (consumer wins) Any pro-NDA people are really just faggots who think consumers should get fucked before a business's bottom line.

06-16-2007, 03:35 PM	#277 (permalink)
Soygen 100% Pure Soy Monk Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 6,243 +23 Internets	WoW had an NDA. They just got rid of it while there was still quite a bit of beta testing left. I agree with Foghorn.

06-16-2007, 05:40 PM	#278 (permalink)
Aria Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 764 -2 Internets	WoW in any case is more the exception rather than the rule. It's a behemoth that started out great and came out even greater. Unfortunately most MMO's are nothing more than a dream that is never fully realized, IMO of course.

06-16-2007, 06:46 PM	#280 (permalink)
Arbuste Smithers, this calls for the league of Evil! Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 768 +0 Internets	When I legally agree to something, I tend to not try very hard to keep it if I think I can get away with it. At least when it's unimportant and harmless for both parties. Could even be beneficial for TR, who knows. In any case, I don't think it hurts anybody. The only reason a thread like this is worth reading is for the NDA breaking bean spilling stuff.

06-17-2007, 05:06 AM	#284 (permalink)
xregg Tattooman Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bergen County, New Jersey Posts: 516 -2 Internets	here is a high def vid of some game play. Tabula Rasa - Compound Infiltration Gameplay HD

06-17-2007, 05:29 AM	#285 (permalink)
darrin LurkerLurkyLurk Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 48 +0 Internets	without me reading 19pages. is it good or not. because the beta's in im now i can sum up in 1 word. Gods and Heroes: No Fury: Yes