[WoW] LFG Interface - Page 2

Etadanik · 12-30-2006, 07:40 PM

Precisely. The LFG channel was more flexible and effective than this crap. I'm honestly stunned by Blizzard's lack of competence in this area.

The Hiram Key · 12-30-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by copernic

Are you saying that the tool works fine, or that I'm a retard for wanting to run Gnomer on an alt?

There's a big, big difference between the end result of the tool, and the efficiency of the tool. I agree that, with the Expansion, I'll have no problem finding 60+ groups through LFG. Definitely. And that's great.

However, and this may surprise you, people still do run lower-level instances on characters called 'alts.' These 'alternative' characters are good ways to kill time and try out new playing styles. Especially because the only instances I haven't run umpteen times are Uldaman.. Maraudon.. etc. This is the situation where LFG sucks.

Lets say I'm a 44 Hunter. Before, if I advertised LFG in the worldwide channel for Zul'Farrak, I'd probably get two people on their 60s looking to level an alt, one person in Tanaris, and one person at the last moment once they see 'LF1M already inside can summon.'

Now? I can't get anyone on a 60, or on an even lower-level alt. I can't get any 'lower-dedication' players who will only come if it's LF1M. And even those in my range might be wasted in a 2 person SM Cath group. So the efficiency of the tool gets worse when there are fewer people online.. which is when you need a competent LFG tool the most.

Yep. This LFG tool blows cheese. At least give us back the global channel till you make this thing viable. Holy fuck.

TheCutlery · 12-30-2006, 10:32 PM

What really sucks is that it doesn't appear to automatically cancel you LFG if you join a group. I dunno who's bonehead idea that was. I've been LFG on my priest, joined a group and been halfway thru the dungeon still getting tells, and it doesn't let me access the LFG window in a group to take that crap off.

Abalieno · 12-31-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCutlery

What really sucks is that it doesn't appear to automatically cancel you LFG if you join a group. I dunno who's bonehead idea that was. I've been LFG on my priest, joined a group and been halfway thru the dungeon still getting tells, and it doesn't let me access the LFG window in a group to take that crap off.

Yeah, a bug I reported as well.

Frax · 12-31-2006, 10:11 AM

I find it amazing that there are supposedly so many people who play the raid game at Blizzard, and that the default UI is so minimal in comparison to a lot of tools that people would use. Basic raid windows like ctra or grid? Clique ability. A decent LFG tool. Autobar/Flexbar/FuBar/Titan? A better auction house window. Not magical stuff, just stuff some people put together in their own time that blows away a lot of the default UI stuff.

Hell the combat log window disappearing bug has been around for THREE MONTHS and isn't fixed until the expansion comes out.

I would think someone would have thrown down some ass beatings on the UI department by now...

xilsharn · 12-31-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Abalieno

Yeah, a bug I reported as well.

well at least you're shilling for yourself

Hex · 12-31-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Frax

I would think someone would have thrown down some ass beatings on the UI department by now...

I think its a conscentious effort on the part of blizzard to keep the UI as easy and accessible as possible in its default form.

Or you may call it "non-threatening". It certainly seems to work if you look at the subscriber numbers and especially the number of MMO "first timers".

No, its not just the UI that draws them of course. But I'm willing to bet it plays its part in retention.

While you and I certainly would welcome more options in the default, I think its a sort of "best of both worlds" to allow for a high degree of customizability to appeal to the more MMO savvy crowd.

The LFG looks like the same thing to me. A total MMO newb could probably use it without giving up. I want more options, but I'm guessing we'll see some sweet mods soon that will expand the basic functionality.

Of course none of this excuses long-living bugs or changing the motherfucking script language just enough each patch to break my mods.

copernic · 12-31-2006, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hex

I'm guessing we'll see some sweet mods soon that will expand the basic functionality.

Probably not.

WoW BlueTracker: LFGQuery() protected function (interactive)

It seems like the big, unspoken reason that LFG sucks is that any sort of fully-featured LFG query takes too much of a toll on the database. Lord knows why. Don't forget that they had a simple Flag tool on release, which was quickly taken out... probably for lag reasons.

Abalieno · 12-31-2006, 11:02 AM

One thing is UI tools you use for yourself, another is a tool that has its purpose on everyone's use.

Relying on 3rd party tools for a LFG system is a bad idea.

And if WoW's servers are too vulnerable to a function that NEVER caused any significant problems before on any other much older mmorpg, then they should at the very least offload it.

I also wonder the way it's coded and designed, because there just isn't a reason that can explain why it is causing so many troubles.

Ellsworth · 12-31-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frax

Hell the combat log window disappearing bug has been around for THREE MONTHS and isn't fixed until the expansion comes out.

Just leave the auto-join recruitment channel. check box in the interface options.

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Frax Raider Nation In Exlie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: To the left or right of you Posts: 3,761	I find it amazing that there are supposedly so many people who play the raid game at Blizzard, and that the default UI is so minimal in comparison to a lot of tools that people would use. Basic raid windows like ctra or grid? Clique ability. A decent LFG tool. Autobar/Flexbar/FuBar/Titan? A better auction house window. Not magical stuff, just stuff some people put together in their own time that blows away a lot of the default UI stuff. Hell the combat log window disappearing bug has been around for THREE MONTHS and isn't fixed until the expansion comes out. I would think someone would have thrown down some ass beatings on the UI department by now... __________________ Government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. -Gerald Ford

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Abalieno Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 397 +0 Internets	One thing is UI tools you use for yourself, another is a tool that has its purpose on everyone's use. Relying on 3rd party tools for a LFG system is a bad idea. And if WoW's servers are too vulnerable to a function that NEVER caused any significant problems before on any other much older mmorpg, then they should at the very least offload it. I also wonder the way it's coded and designed, because there just isn't a reason that can explain why it is causing so many troubles. __________________ -HRose / Abalieno cesspit.net

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12-30-2006, 07:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
Etadanik Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,643 +0 Internets	Precisely. The LFG channel was more flexible and effective than this crap. I'm honestly stunned by Blizzard's lack of competence in this area.

12-30-2006, 10:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
TheCutlery Tuco makes random titles Join Date: May 2003 Location: MN Posts: 2,519	What really sucks is that it doesn't appear to automatically cancel you LFG if you join a group. I dunno who's bonehead idea that was. I've been LFG on my priest, joined a group and been halfway thru the dungeon still getting tells, and it doesn't let me access the LFG window in a group to take that crap off.