[VG]December Beta Newsletter

Esanguiner · 12-22-2006, 09:34 PM

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes - December Newsletter

Wizerud · 12-22-2006, 10:21 PM

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On 12/21/2006 at 10:00AM the first Vanguard PvP beta test server went live...
May you claim honor through the slaying of your enemies! (Or just any unlucky person who happens to be AFK)

I like it (the above comment, not the PVP server which I have not tried).

Deris · 12-22-2006, 10:44 PM

The patch notes in general are pretty tongue in cheek, and always have been. Which is good

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Itzena · 12-23-2006, 03:53 AM

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You must be within 10 levels of your opponent, to target them press ctrl (control) + left click. Show no mercy!

Oh for fuck's sake.

Brad, did you learn nothing from all the immy healing on the Zeks?

Cowbell · 12-23-2006, 05:21 AM

I am going to go out on a limb and say PvP on vanguard will be an afterthought.

Scaffa · 12-23-2006, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Itzena

Oh for fuck's sake.

Brad, did you learn nothing from all the immy healing on the Zeks?

EQ PvP servers were just a little experiment that they didn't care about.

Like when God created emo.

Broham · 12-23-2006, 11:37 AM

"We are cancelling Christmas."

Good patch note!

IronKeeb · 12-23-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I am going to go out on a limb and say PvP on vanguard will be an afterthought.

Which makes for much better pvp imo. Rallos and the other Zeks > WoW pvp any day.

Big W Powah! · 12-23-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IronKeeb

Which makes for much better pvp imo. Rallos and the other Zeks > WoW pvp any day.

Zek PvP had more incentive, IMHO. it was more a politics game, than "keel for fun".

Mess with the wrong people in the wrong way and BAD things happened to you. I personally forced a couple people to re-roll basically after corpse camping me for no aparant reason. (and this was rallos--he didn't even give me a chance to loot, i.e. gaining something from my deaths, just generally being a dick.)

The real issue with EQ pvp was the HUGE imbalance of the classes. Any caster could drop any melee. As a monk, I was destroyed MANY times, simply because I wasn't able to get my T-Staff to proc enough.

In a game like Vanguard, where theres more options, with a Rallos style PvP server, is a perfect mix, IMHO.

Nino · 12-23-2006, 01:12 PM

We just opened up the server. We actually do have plans to do some cool things with PvP. We more or less are testing our server structure, pipeline, and code within a multiple server formation. Right now it is a gankfest, which is uh, pretty fun actually. =) (GM powers aside)

Itzena · 12-23-2006, 02:21 PM

OK seriously - this isn't just common or garden Vanguard hating but a genuine question: Is there a solid plan to prevent immortal healers, or will they be chalked up as 'part of the game'?

Kirun · 12-23-2006, 03:05 PM

Whatever Sigil does, I would just hope they don't go the Blizzard route and balance PvE around PvP and vice versa.

tad10 · 12-23-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Itzena

OK seriously - this isn't just common or garden Vanguard hating but a genuine question: Is there a solid plan to prevent immortal healers, or will they be chalked up as 'part of the game'?

Get into the fucking beta already and post this on the beta boards.

blahblahblah · 12-23-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Big W Powah!

Zek PvP had more incentive, IMHO. it was more a politics game, than "keel for fun".

Mess with the wrong people in the wrong way and BAD things happened to you. I personally forced a couple people to re-roll basically after corpse camping me for no aparant reason. (and this was rallos--he didn't even give me a chance to loot, i.e. gaining something from my deaths, just generally being a dick.)

The real issue with EQ pvp was the HUGE imbalance of the classes. Any caster could drop any melee. As a monk, I was destroyed MANY times, simply because I wasn't able to get my T-Staff to proc enough.

In a game like Vanguard, where theres more options, with a Rallos style PvP server, is a perfect mix, IMHO.

I started on Rallos, it was pretty cool actually. A lot of the cool stuff in EQ was a side effect of imbalance. I remember seeing enchanters on RZ charm people and send them to attack guards.

And your full of shit. I was a wizard and a monk could own me at PVP. Interruptions etc. I couldnt root players for shit.

I vote for a FFA VG PVP server, xp loss and maybe 1 item loot would be cool ala RZ.

We policed our own.

PS gnomes hiding inside ogre corpses FTW

tad10 · 12-23-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blahblahblah

I started on Rallos, it was pretty cool actually. A lot of the cool stuff in EQ was a side effect of imbalance. I remember seeing enchanters on RZ charm people and send them to attack guards.

I wouldn't roll on a PvP server but I have to admit that this would have been awesome to see. To bad youtube wasn't around in 1999/2000 or whenever RZ went live.

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Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 224 -4 Internets	I am going to go out on a limb and say PvP on vanguard will be an afterthought.

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Kirun Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 461 -9 Internets	Whatever Sigil does, I would just hope they don't go the Blizzard route and balance PvE around PvP and vice versa.