[EQ2] 50,000 Characters Banned 12/20/06 - Page 3

Vard · 12-20-2006, 01:39 PM

More than 50,000 people play EQ2? Amazing..

Sheaf · 12-20-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrik

Blizzard has almot 8 million subs, so when they ban 50k, its not as much of a big deal as when EQ2 does, who has roughly 400k(ish) subs.

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Originally Posted by Vard

More than 50,000 people play EQ2? Amazing..

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Kazgrim · 12-20-2006, 02:03 PM

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Blizzard has almot 8 million subs, so when they ban 50k, its not as much of a big deal as when EQ2 does, who has roughly 400k(ish) subs.

mission accomplished? Misdirection completed.

Even if eq2 had 400k subs, you really think they just banned 1/8th of their subscribers? They banned probably 10-15k accounts (hopefully Scott can confirm real #), probably 5% of their subscriber base.

Siddar · 12-20-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazgrim

mission accomplished? Misdirection completed.

Even if eq2 had 400k subs, you really think they just banned 1/8th of their subscribers? They banned probably 10-15k accounts (hopefully Scott can confirm real #), probably 5% of their subscriber base.

Way I read it is they didnt ban a whole bunch of new people at all. What they did was purge characters from game that were on banned acounts.

EQ1 said they have never deleted any characters above level 10 from EQ. Even the ones on banned acounts are still there just cant be played because account there on is banned.

In fact if i rember right EQ unbanned all banned accounts a few years ago in a atempt to increase subscribers. My guess is people at EQ2 have decided that that isnt going to ever happen in there game. So they decided to delete characters just to make sure the guys in suits dont ever get idea to try that in EQ2.

Kazgrim · 12-20-2006, 03:52 PM

I don't think they actually deleted characters, they just cleaned up their eq2players site since it tracks all that kind of data. ie wealthiest player on server X was a gold selling mule or something, they banned those guys and cleaned up the site so legit characters can fill those rankings out. When it was all said and done they totalled it up and were like "holy shit, 50k characters." Good for them, needed to be done, I don't think anyone has a problem with what they did, it was just the person posting here trying to misconstrue the data into something else.

Jait · 12-20-2006, 03:55 PM

To people playing EQ2: Great, fantastic. Less in-game mail, less spam /tells

To people NOT playing EQ2: Lets debate this to death!!

Seriously, what's the big deal?

Borzak · 12-20-2006, 04:08 PM

It's the new way companies try to show off how many are playing. Instead of XXX paying customers - we banned XXX characters/accounts or whatever. No way to check on that crap.

Andric d'Regor · 12-20-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jait

To people playing EQ2: Great, fantastic. Less in-game mail, less spam /tells

To people NOT playing EQ2: Lets debate this to death!!

Seriously, what's the big deal?

amen

merry xmas

Zuuljin · 12-20-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Utnayan

The thing is though at some point logistically is it going to be cost effective. You ban these characters/accounts and the loss to them is fairly minimal. They go out and purchase another account which is very cheap these days, and they are up and running again within weeks - and it will take more months from CS teams to investigate when those resources could be going elsewhere.

Your right, but it sure keeps WoW at the top of the box chart sales banning everyone over and over again. I think SOE just wanted some of that resubscribing love. =P

voodoo13 · 12-20-2006, 04:46 PM

They didn't ban 50,000 people. They just went around and deleted 50,000 characters that had been banned for exploiting. 10 bucks sayings 75% of those accounts where duping accounts.

Vaclav · 12-20-2006, 07:29 PM

PC on Tinfoil Hats?

Zefah · 12-20-2006, 08:15 PM

I know its characters and not accounts, but I'm surprised no one has chimed in with a "Well there goes 1/3 of their population ROFL!" comment.

Havelock · 12-20-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazgrim

Naysayers saying the game only has 10 people? Nice strawman, where the hell did this come from?

When I saw the title of this post, my first thought was smartass bullshit along the lines of "Shit, did they ban trial accounts, too?" I don't think the OP was too far off expecting that sort of response.

Zehn - Vhex · 12-20-2006, 09:44 PM

I don't think Kaz really has a problem with him posting information that Scott PM'd him. I mean, that's pretty much 90% of what a shill is but meh, it's a popular MMO and we'd have found out anyways.

It's the retarded, "GEE GUYS THIS MEANS EQ2 IS FANTASTERLASTIC. IT'S POSITIVELY SKIPPER-DOO," after comments that make me want to burn the OP's face off with a molten rake.

I totally dig the e-prop's you guys are handing out though. Can I get in on some of this circle jerk action? Looks like Utnayan's the bread. UNF UNF UNF...ahhh.

Anyways...

Carry on.

Ellsworth · 12-20-2006, 10:08 PM

The OP is smoking too much EQ2 crack to understand what was said. But basically he got it right I think.

Over the last few months they have banned a bunch of accounts for various violations. Now, they went back and are deleting characters that belonged to those accounts. All told, that amounted to almost 50,000 characters. They announced this to show that they are doing what they can to prevent what they consider game damaging players.

Seems ok to me. As long as they aren't trying to claim that they banned 50,000 accounts over the last few months, this seems like a reasonable and informative announcement.

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voodoo13 ¿¿¿¿¿ Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 105 -1 Internets	They didn't ban 50,000 people. They just went around and deleted 50,000 characters that had been banned for exploiting. 10 bucks sayings 75% of those accounts where duping accounts. __________________

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12-20-2006, 01:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
Vard Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 174 +0 Internets	More than 50,000 people play EQ2? Amazing..

12-20-2006, 03:52 PM	#35 (permalink)
Kazgrim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 447 +4 Internets	I don't think they actually deleted characters, they just cleaned up their eq2players site since it tracks all that kind of data. ie wealthiest player on server X was a gold selling mule or something, they banned those guys and cleaned up the site so legit characters can fill those rankings out. When it was all said and done they totalled it up and were like "holy shit, 50k characters." Good for them, needed to be done, I don't think anyone has a problem with what they did, it was just the person posting here trying to misconstrue the data into something else.

12-20-2006, 03:55 PM	#36 (permalink)
Jait Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 3,645	To people playing EQ2: Great, fantastic. Less in-game mail, less spam /tells To people NOT playing EQ2: Lets debate this to death!! Seriously, what's the big deal?

12-20-2006, 04:08 PM	#37 (permalink)
Borzak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,122	It's the new way companies try to show off how many are playing. Instead of XXX paying customers - we banned XXX characters/accounts or whatever. No way to check on that crap.

12-20-2006, 07:29 PM	#41 (permalink)
Vaclav Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,027 +0 Internets	PC on Tinfoil Hats?

12-20-2006, 08:15 PM	#42 (permalink)
Zefah Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kanagawa, Japan Posts: 1,524 +2 Internets	I know its characters and not accounts, but I'm surprised no one has chimed in with a "Well there goes 1/3 of their population ROFL!" comment.

12-20-2006, 09:44 PM	#44 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,796 +166 Internets	I don't think Kaz really has a problem with him posting information that Scott PM'd him. I mean, that's pretty much 90% of what a shill is but meh, it's a popular MMO and we'd have found out anyways. It's the retarded, "GEE GUYS THIS MEANS EQ2 IS FANTASTERLASTIC. IT'S POSITIVELY SKIPPER-DOO," after comments that make me want to burn the OP's face off with a molten rake. I totally dig the e-prop's you guys are handing out though. Can I get in on some of this circle jerk action? Looks like Utnayan's the bread. UNF UNF UNF...ahhh. Anyways... Carry on.

12-20-2006, 10:08 PM	#45 (permalink)
Ellsworth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 210 -2 Internets	The OP is smoking too much EQ2 crack to understand what was said. But basically he got it right I think. Over the last few months they have banned a bunch of accounts for various violations. Now, they went back and are deleting characters that belonged to those accounts. All told, that amounted to almost 50,000 characters. They announced this to show that they are doing what they can to prevent what they consider game damaging players. Seems ok to me. As long as they aren't trying to claim that they banned 50,000 accounts over the last few months, this seems like a reasonable and informative announcement.