PVP wise.. which WoW class now has the upper hand?

Acarer · 12-06-2006, 11:18 AM

i know this has been discussed in just about every post the past year.. but after the new expansion which class is going to have the upper hand in pvp? im hearing Warlocks and Priests are quite nasty nowadays.. and since im just getting back into WoW..after 6 months .. im curious to the notion... who has the upper hand in 1 on 1 fights, now, and after the expansion?

Warrior?
Shaman?
Priest?
Druid?
Warlock?
Hunter?
Rogue?
Mage?
Paladin?

if anyone could elaborate something about each class, would be much appreciated.

Immy · 12-06-2006, 11:22 AM

it's pretty arbitrary...but..

Generally speaking the mass populous decrees that

Overpowered:

Priest
Hunter
Warlock

Balanced:

Mage
Druid
Rogue
Paladin

Underpowered:

Shaman (everything but resto)
Warrior (Rage nerf)

As I said, it's all arbitrary and a new flavor of the month could pop up at any time.

But right now I'd say that hunters and warlocks are the current leaders of those who bitch about them.

Spontaneous Cumbustion · 12-06-2006, 11:24 AM

lol you consider paladins balanced?

Take out priests, replace it with paladins, and you'll be on target.

darksensei · 12-06-2006, 11:33 AM

Since you mentioned 1v1

Warlock
Shadow Priest
Paladin
Hunter
Mage
Shaman
Rogue
Warrior

TBH I don't know where druids scale, don't duel enough of them.

But tangetial, Immy your right warriors are weak in 1v1 but rage normilization isn't the problem. We lack counters for abilites in pvp situations, especially against classes that can kite or dot.

Zehn - Vhex · 12-06-2006, 11:34 AM

Paladins can be shut down pretty easily if you're not retarded. He's talking 1v1, not force multiplier factor. In group pvp? Yeah, Paladins win but they're ezmoad in 1v1.

I'd modify that slightly though to make a distinction. Shadow Priests are wicked overpowered, Holy/Disc or Disc/Holy are fine though.

RudraRudra · 12-06-2006, 11:37 AM

I'm very pleased with Mangle, it's quite a damage upgrade and I'm not having problems with very high hp warlocks and high +damage mages any longer. Druid vs Druid fights no longer take forever. My character feels stronger so I'm happy as a clam.

Acarer · 12-06-2006, 11:45 AM

i understand priest/warlocks are pretty much on top of the game atm, 1v1 wise... where do Shamans stand in this department? before the WF nerf shamans were pretty much on top of the game, but now... iv noticed there power has dropped off to some degree... with the new expansion do shamans even stand a chance anymore 1v1? does dual wield now make any difference, or are we still bottom feeders regardess if we have dual wield or not. any shamans in beta, or anyone informative on the subject elaborate if ya could)

thanks!

Zehn - Vhex · 12-06-2006, 11:51 AM

Shaman are more middle of the pack honestly. They're not terrible and you still shouldn't ever lose to a rogue or warrior. Fighting a mage would depend largely on how the mage is spec'd. Druids should be relatively easy.

Warriors aren't too bad. It's just that they've been walking gods for so long that now that they're back down to Earth with the rest of us they're learning the hard way what it's like to not be able to win 90% of matches.

Warlocks, shadow priests and hunters are all pretty and everybody is pretty even. Between the two groups however is a pretty huge gap.

Kasonic · 12-06-2006, 11:53 AM

Hopefully we don't have any more threads stupidly devolve into 1v1 PvP dick-waving contests with this thread present.

Warrian · 12-06-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Warriors aren't too bad. It's just that they've been walking gods for so long that now that they're back down to Earth with the rest of us they're learning the hard way what it's like to not be able to win 90% of matches.

This has to be the biggest load of shit I have read in quite some time. Gods dont need pocket healers -- Warriors do.

Zehn - Vhex · 12-06-2006, 11:57 AM

All I know is that after nearly a year and a half of being holy/disc spec'd, it feels good to just melt some fucking faces again. It won't last long before circumstances dictate I go back to holy...but fuck man. And being able to school warlocks still = $$.

copernic · 12-06-2006, 11:57 AM

I've never dueled once in my entire Warlock-y life, but I specced Felguard and went to Elwynn to mess around, post-patch. This is my brand-new-60 alt, with about half green and half Scholo-esque gear. I've never PVP'd with him.

And I was a monster. I could not be beaten. I destroyed Rogues, Paladins... Affliction Warlocks, Mages. These were not experienced and dedicated duelists, of course, but most were well-geared and certainly knew their class. I was only beaten when I got stunlocked by the Rogue, and once with a Paladin because I decided not to use Fear and he had DS ready. Still drained his entire mana bar to beat me.

At the conclusion I realized that I didn't have Soullink up the entire time.

So yeah, 3 second stun + fear = wowzors.

Zehn - Vhex · 12-06-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrian

This has to be the biggest load of shit I have read in quite some time. Gods dont need pocket healers -- Warriors do.

Don't cry to me if you can't be bothered to farm FAP's. 8(

Warrian · 12-06-2006, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Don't cry to me if you can't be bothered to farm FAP's. 8(

Do you think before you post or do you just bang your head on the keyboard and sentences appear?

Dis · 12-06-2006, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Don't cry to me if you can't be bothered to farm FAP's. 8(

Still doesnt change the fact that your quote is a load of shit. 1v1 warriors are probs the worst PvP class, we get a lot better when we have a pocket healer, but then that isnt 1v1 is it?

12-06-2006, 11:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Acarer Fires of Heaven Combine Server Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5 +0 Internets	PVP wise.. which WoW class now has the upper hand? i know this has been discussed in just about every post the past year.. but after the new expansion which class is going to have the upper hand in pvp? im hearing Warlocks and Priests are quite nasty nowadays.. and since im just getting back into WoW..after 6 months .. im curious to the notion... who has the upper hand in 1 on 1 fights, now, and after the expansion? Warrior? Shaman? Priest? Druid? Warlock? Hunter? Rogue? Mage? Paladin? if anyone could elaborate something about each class, would be much appreciated.

12-06-2006, 11:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Immy Right there above you. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 701 +0 Internets	it's pretty arbitrary...but.. Generally speaking the mass populous decrees that Overpowered: Priest Hunter Warlock Balanced: Mage Druid Rogue Paladin Underpowered: Shaman (everything but resto) Warrior (Rage nerf) As I said, it's all arbitrary and a new flavor of the month could pop up at any time. But right now I'd say that hunters and warlocks are the current leaders of those who bitch about them. __________________

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12-06-2006, 11:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Spontaneous Cumbustion Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Wilmington, DE, USA Posts: 525	lol you consider paladins balanced? Take out priests, replace it with paladins, and you'll be on target.

12-06-2006, 11:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
darksensei Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,063	Since you mentioned 1v1 Warlock Shadow Priest Paladin Hunter Mage Shaman Rogue Warrior TBH I don't know where druids scale, don't duel enough of them. But tangetial, Immy your right warriors are weak in 1v1 but rage normilization isn't the problem. We lack counters for abilites in pvp situations, especially against classes that can kite or dot.

12-06-2006, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,797 +166 Internets	Paladins can be shut down pretty easily if you're not retarded. He's talking 1v1, not force multiplier factor. In group pvp? Yeah, Paladins win but they're ezmoad in 1v1. I'd modify that slightly though to make a distinction. Shadow Priests are wicked overpowered, Holy/Disc or Disc/Holy are fine though.

12-06-2006, 11:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
RudraRudra Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 46 -2 Internets	I'm very pleased with Mangle, it's quite a damage upgrade and I'm not having problems with very high hp warlocks and high +damage mages any longer. Druid vs Druid fights no longer take forever. My character feels stronger so I'm happy as a clam.

12-06-2006, 11:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Acarer Fires of Heaven Combine Server Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5 +0 Internets	i understand priest/warlocks are pretty much on top of the game atm, 1v1 wise... where do Shamans stand in this department? before the WF nerf shamans were pretty much on top of the game, but now... iv noticed there power has dropped off to some degree... with the new expansion do shamans even stand a chance anymore 1v1? does dual wield now make any difference, or are we still bottom feeders regardess if we have dual wield or not. any shamans in beta, or anyone informative on the subject elaborate if ya could) thanks!

12-06-2006, 11:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,797 +166 Internets	Shaman are more middle of the pack honestly. They're not terrible and you still shouldn't ever lose to a rogue or warrior. Fighting a mage would depend largely on how the mage is spec'd. Druids should be relatively easy. Warriors aren't too bad. It's just that they've been walking gods for so long that now that they're back down to Earth with the rest of us they're learning the hard way what it's like to not be able to win 90% of matches. Warlocks, shadow priests and hunters are all pretty and everybody is pretty even. Between the two groups however is a pretty huge gap.

12-06-2006, 11:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kasonic dumb Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,627 +1 Internets	Hopefully we don't have any more threads stupidly devolve into 1v1 PvP dick-waving contests with this thread present.

12-06-2006, 11:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,797 +166 Internets	All I know is that after nearly a year and a half of being holy/disc spec'd, it feels good to just melt some fucking faces again. It won't last long before circumstances dictate I go back to holy...but fuck man. And being able to school warlocks still = $$.

12-06-2006, 11:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
copernic Warcraft is the only MMO I've ever played Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 76 +0 Internets	I've never dueled once in my entire Warlock-y life, but I specced Felguard and went to Elwynn to mess around, post-patch. This is my brand-new-60 alt, with about half green and half Scholo-esque gear. I've never PVP'd with him. And I was a monster. I could not be beaten. I destroyed Rogues, Paladins... Affliction Warlocks, Mages. These were not experienced and dedicated duelists, of course, but most were well-geared and certainly knew their class. I was only beaten when I got stunlocked by the Rogue, and once with a Paladin because I decided not to use Fear and he had DS ready. Still drained his entire mana bar to beat me. At the conclusion I realized that I didn't have Soullink up the entire time. So yeah, 3 second stun + fear = wowzors.