FoH guide to EVE Online

[Faille]

Originally Posted by Dildo Faggins

Interceptors are pleanty easy to kill for a dedicated pilot. Hint: Where one webber isnt enough, bring 5.

90% of pilots flying with snakes are too smart to drop within web range though, not to mention they still have enough speed to get out of it within 1 cycle more often then not.

[Dildo Faggins]

Originally Posted by Faille

90% of pilots flying with snakes are too smart to drop within web range though, not to mention they still have enough speed to get out of it within 1 cycle more often then not.

The rapier is sexy

[Fog]

You are living in a dream world. If I am flying my 150m or 200m interceptor with snakes or LG snakes and I see a rapier appear I am getting the fuck out of dodge, not sitting around wondering if he has webs fitted.

[Dildo Faggins]

Sweet, now all you need to do is figure out how to spot the cloaked ships and ur gtg.

[Fog]

Not only is there a targeting delay, but like the previous fellow said, I'm probably going fast enough that I can get away from whatever happens to be warp scrambling me in time to bug out if a rapier pops up next to me. (And I don't have a habit of hanging around in the middle of bubbles if I can help it.)

Regardless, it's pretty far-fetched. And I don't think the whole issue is germane - Rapier pilots really aren't that common, and they'll be even less common after the nano-fad is over. Interceptors are hard to kill but they are easy to discourage, with webs and heavy nos and light drones. That seems to me to be good enough.

[kasey]

Originally Posted by Dildo Faggins

Interceptors are pleanty easy to kill for a dedicated pilot. Hint: Where one webber isnt enough, bring 5.

web drones work as well?

[DJk_zero]

Since there is only one web drone in game right now, and it's heavy with a crappy speed, no, not really.

[Bizanich]

As an aside, the Test Server is a good place to play around with stuff. The characters are a little out of date now (month and some weeks), so hopefully they update soon, but it's fun FFA'ng to test certain builds.

Was testing a Hurricane with the new need 4 speed changes, could still get it over 2k so I was happy.....was doing really well in the FFA spot til an Astarte intercepted my orbit around a Drake I was pwning and webbed and killed me....damn command ships

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I was looking through drones in the market and noticed the right click description of drones is pretty crappy. would anyone be willing to break down the vague function of the various classes of drones and/or drone advice?

are drones as expensive ot use as they look? (the market i was at had them VERY expensive. is that something worth traveling far to get to?

[Wodin]

Originally Posted by ...

I was looking through drones in the market and noticed the right click description of drones is pretty crappy. would anyone be willing to break down the vague function of the various classes of drones and/or drone advice?

are drones as expensive ot use as they look? (the market i was at had them VERY expensive. is that something worth traveling far to get to?

Basic T1 drones:
In order of DPS: Gallente(Thermal)/Caldari(Kinetic)/Minmatar(Explosive)/Amarr(EM).
In order of speed:
Minmatar(Fastest)/Amarr/Caldari/Gallente

Generally for PvE you always use the drones that deal damage with the weakest resist.

T2 Drones:
Lights(used against interceptors):
Warrior IIs: Fastest
Hobgoblin IIs: most DPS

Mediums:
Valkyrie IIs: Fastest, used by gankers so they can retrieve their drones easily
Hammerhead IIs: Most damage, but a full rack will cost you 15m
Vespa IIs: Cheap compromise, second most damage

Heavies:
Berserker IIs: Destroy fast cruisers
Ogre IIs: Destroy everything else


Utility drones:
ECM drones: chance to jam you, 5 lights are equivalent to half a multispec, mediums 1 multispec, and heavies 2? multispecs.
Web Drone: 25m3, 50% web
Armor Repair Drones: Can repair other targets. Useful in small gangs.
Shield Repair Drones: As above, but less useful
Other EW drones: Worthless due to the way they interact with the stacking penalty.

Drones are pretty important because they're essentially free damage and let you do damage to things smaller than your guns can hit. You'll probably want to shop around a little, though, and Tech II drones can be very expensive because they're easy to skill for so there's very high demand.

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should i be patient and buy the T2 drones insead of worrying with the T1? i'm still in the newbie stages, still working at the tutorial really. But, I'd like to make good long term investments if filling a drone bay is as expensive as it's looking.

what do scout drones do? do they fight (would they work for my newbie self for a ghetto fighting drone). also there was another kind of drone i saw...i forget their classification. sentry drone i think. there was like a 'bouncer' a 'warden' and a few others. what do they do exactly?

Also, when perusing the frigates, I looked at all their properties and descriptions. i settled on the Tristan because it seemed well rounded, I wanted to escape my newb rocket, and the information seemed to play it up as a realy nice frigate of that skill level. However, when looking through the gallente vessels, i found ships that could hold 10 , or even 15 holding drone bays. I didn't purchase them because their information made them sound like specialized ships. I'm not good at reading ships, so i went with what was reccomended. I guess I'm asking if the 10 and 15 drone bay ships would be more respectable choices for their drone bays, or are they (as the description states) specialized ships best used as their description states.

and thanks for the info yall, this thread is awesome in a can.

heh, are the servers up? i couldn't connect before work and i'd like to swap in a new skill to learn

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by ...

should i be patient and buy the T2 drones insead of worrying with the T1? i'm still in the newbie stages, still working at the tutorial really. But, I'd like to make good long term investments if filling a drone bay is as expensive as it's looking.

what do scout drones do? do they fight (would they work for my newbie self for a ghetto fighting drone). also there was another kind of drone i saw...i forget their classification. sentry drone i think. there was like a 'bouncer' a 'warden' and a few others. what do they do exactly?

Also, when perusing the frigates, I looked at all their properties and descriptions. i settled on the Tristan because it seemed well rounded, I wanted to escape my newb rocket, and the information seemed to play it up as a realy nice frigate of that skill level. However, when looking through the gallente vessels, i found ships that could hold 10 , or even 15 holding drone bays. I didn't purchase them because their information made them sound like specialized ships. I'm not good at reading ships, so i went with what was reccomended. I guess I'm asking if the 10 and 15 drone bay ships would be more respectable choices for their drone bays, or are they (as the description states) specialized ships best used as their description states.

and thanks for the info yall, this thread is awesome in a can.

heh, are the servers up? i couldn't connect before work and i'd like to swap in a new skill to learn

I wouldnt worry about T2 drones, they are expensive to train for since the books are like 8 million and you would be better served putting that money/training time towards a cruiser or battlecruiser and just using the tech 1 drones for now.

Scout drones are the lighter fighter drones, they take up less drone space than a heavy drone but can hit smaller targets more easily. Its better to use the most drones you can usually, so if you have 50m3 drone space its better to use 5 mediums rather than 2 heavies. Sentry drones are stationary, where the other types of drones will move around and shoot their targets a sentry just stays where you droped it and shoots from there... that can be good or bad depending on what you are fighting. I would personally stick to the normal drones and ignore sentries.

The tristan is a good frig and prolly better than the other two since its the highest tier of frig and has more armor and slots than the others, i used a tristan when i was new and if you fit it right it can take all the lvl 1 missions without any problems, its not a bad tackle either, incursus is prolly slightly better tho. Once you learn gallente cruiser pick up a vexor, its a great drone ship.

[Wilfan]

Originally Posted by ...

should i be patient and buy the T2 drones insead of worrying with the T1? i'm still in the newbie stages

No, stick with T1 till you can lose a cruiser without crying much. T2 drones are expensive and you'll lose drones much more often than ships.

Originally Posted by ...

what do scout drones do? do they fight (would they work for my newbie self for a ghetto fighting drone). also there was another kind of drone i saw...i forget their classification. sentry drone i think. there was like a 'bouncer' a 'warden' and a few others. what do they do exactly?

Scout drones are what people call light or medium drones. They are like a dumb, scaled-down frigate. They orbit the target and go pew-pew.

Sentries can't move and are more like field artillery - big range, powerfull, slow shots, bad tracking.

Originally Posted by ...

Also, when perusing the frigates

They are nice, but are not combat frigates. Maulus is Gallente EW frig (bonus for sensor dampeners) while Imicus is meant for probing (but probing is usually reserved for covops and does not pay out for noobs).

There are no real drone frigates. Fun starts with cruisers with Vexor (and Arbitrator for Amarr that swing that way).

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cool, thanks for the info!

[Draegan]

I started playing my 14 day trial last night. Unfortunately I forgot the name of the folks who helped me out, but thank you. My character name is Dhrae.

Just finished with the tutorial. Is this where the true open ended-ness starts? Just go out an do stuff? Mining/Pirate Killing/Mission running/Trading whatever floats your boat and makes you ISK?

I'm curious, if you folks can remember, what did you guys do or steer yourself towards in your early days in EVE? I'd like to hear some accounts of how you got started early on.