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Old 03-04-2007, 09:43 AM   #931 (permalink)
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Isn't a Navy Raven quite a bit better than a normal Raven?
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:48 AM   #932 (permalink)
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Isn't a Navy Raven quite a bit better than a normal Raven?
yes it is

not mentioning it costs a lot more
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:42 AM   #933 (permalink)
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I'm not an experienced level 4 mission runner, but from all I've heard getting a Gist shield booster is the first piece of expensive/faction gear you want to spend money on, not a CNR. Could be wrong, though.

CNRs look nice - but for an extra launcher and 3750 shields, 1+ billion is a lot of isk. A Gist B-Type booster costs like 500M I believe, and it increases your shield boosting by 20% and does it for less than half the energy of a C5-L.
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:39 PM   #934 (permalink)
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I usually fit 2x salvagers 1x tractor in the highs on my domi.. its annoying sometimes if theres rats who orbit at like 50km but since most stay inside 30 it works well.

when im not to lazy to two box i use an alt in a zealot since it has alot of cargo space and i found that the destroyers ran out of cap trying to run salvagers/tractors... eventually im gonna use my alt in a geddon with salvagers/tractors + armor rep drones, should make my domi all but unkillable by mission rats.

If you are using like a real low sp alt to salvage i recommend amarr since the coercer can fit 4 low slots, i got mine up to like 650 M3 and very rarely ran out of space looting/salvaging 1 lvl 4 as long as i didnt loot shit like 800pt cap charges.


I actually favoure the catalyst as the best destroyer to use since with expanders in low I can get up to 830 m3 cargo space, combined with good cap use which can get low when salvage a lot in a row.
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:09 PM   #935 (permalink)
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so from what I'm readnig, I should learn my ship running 3s before I try 4s?
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:17 PM   #936 (permalink)
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I actually favoure the catalyst as the best destroyer to use since with expanders in low I can get up to 830 m3 cargo space, combined with good cap use which can get low when salvage a lot in a row.
I use a catalyst too, it's np.
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:21 PM   #937 (permalink)
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so from what I'm readnig, I should learn my ship running 3s before I try 4s?
Well, for level 3s a raven kinda sucks compared to a drake. They're pretty much all frigate/cruisers with some BCs so you need to fit heavy launchers.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:51 PM   #938 (permalink)
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I would definitely at least try your lvl 4 setup once in a lvl 3 before taking the plunge. I got bored last week in my myrmidon at around 4mil sp's and tried a lvl 4 (Pirate Slaughter with Angel's) and it was rather ugly. Mostly due to explosive damage but still nasty. You will get warp jammed, webbed, etc by fast moving frigs while the big stuff moves in. Point being I was very confident with my myrm in lvl 3's. But even knowing what to do won't really prepare you for the incoming dps in lvl 4's. So getting a feel for your BS in lvl 3's I think is really a good idea before just taking it into a lvl 4 untested. If nothing else take it into a lvl 3 and don't even fire a shot, just get a feel for the dps you can take. If it's anything even close to making a big dent in your defence your not ready for lvl 4's imho. You will learn things like cap usage of tank, hitting mob x, etc.

On salvaging I use a Catalyst. I'm sure it's not the best but was cheap and quick skill for Destroyer I. It might very well be inadequate for the amount of loot in lvl 4's but I wouldn't know. Yet

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Old 03-05-2007, 01:54 AM   #939 (permalink)
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If anyone is looking to get into the 0.0 Industry side of Eve, be it mining, hauling, research, production, drop me a pm or send Faillee an evemail in game.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:13 AM   #940 (permalink)
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On salvaging I use a Catalyst. I'm sure it's not the best but was cheap and quick skill for Destroyer I. It might very well be inadequate for the amount of loot in lvl 4's but I wouldn't know. Yet
I really like the Catalyst as it has a good cap to run 4 salvages, 4 beams, and an AB.

For Level 4's I would drag a can around until I was done salvaging. Then BM the can and bring a hauler in and scoop the whole can.

It takes a little more time but it gets the job done.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:55 AM   #941 (permalink)
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Triple boxing ftw. I'm a one man mining op.

Main has a mining dominix that kills all the rats with drones (1.8 mil usurper spawns even), another alt in a covetor and another character running around in an itty 5 with local hulls.

I make around a hundred+ mill an hour depending on the rats that spawn. Most hiliarious thing about it is we have alliance carebears that have died 2 or 3 times in one day to hostiles in local and I havent yet in the past month of carebearing while triple boxing (until recently I was 99% pvp time in game).

One time I even used my alts to trap a hostile, flew in my fourth account (dictor pilot) on top of them caught their frig and podded them.
I call bullshit on your hundred+ mill an hour, I use two coveters and can barely make 75. The high end min prices are shit and unless you have access to a ton of arkonor you're not making crap for money from your mins. Plus you can't gurantee the rats are going to attack your dominix when they appear in the belt, meaning you have to warp your coveter in and out constantly, seriously hurting your isk per hour.

Nice try though.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:08 PM   #942 (permalink)
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I havn't read this thread since the first 3 pages when it was first posted. Is this guide still viable with some of the updates I've seen EVE go through? Just wondering.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:19 PM   #943 (permalink)
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Pretty much, though the OP seems to have abandoned it somewhat. Has the public GF wiki been linked yet?

Just use that for char creation and ask people questions here or ingame for the rest.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:23 PM   #944 (permalink)
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Where it says FOTM gallente, swap for FOTM nanoships. Rest more or less stands.
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Old 03-05-2007, 01:30 PM   #945 (permalink)
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I have no idea what that means but ok.
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