FoH guide to EVE Online

[Alexzandra]

I would personally recomend going the Gallente/Caldari route just due to the shared skills. Still, I would recommend Caldari ships for mission running. Train up to a Raven before worrying about crossing over into Gallente, imo. (That's what I'm doing.)

[Brando]

Thanks for the info. I'll probably just go Gallente but it's good to know just in case.

[Tolanin]

missiles are alot easier to train for T2 than any of the guns... prolly half the sp to get t2 cruise compared to T2 rails. The nice thing about missiles is they dont have so much back training dependency, so if someday you decide you wanna use T2 torps you can just train the torp skill and thats pretty much all you will need... not like guns where you need small, med skills to train the large.

If you wanna be a certain race but not use their ships its not hard, just try to take the more universal skills at char creation... like i know gallente get the option of hybrid 5 or drones 5, if you wanna switch minmater take drones cause it will be useful after the switch.

[Laek]

Originally Posted by Alexzandra

I would personally recomend going the Gallente/Caldari route just due to the shared skills. Still, I would recommend Caldari ships for mission running. Train up to a Raven before worrying about crossing over into Gallente, imo. (That's what I'm doing.)

All they have in common are hybrid skills which you don't even need to train as a Caldari. Gallente and Minmatar is where its at for PvP fun(doesn't mean ownage) but its nice to get a Caldari Raven for making isk in lvl4 missions or 0.0 ratting.

[Alexzandra]

Not really. It's still advantageous for a Raven pilot to train up drones.

[Kirun]

How screwed am I by having my Minmatar Brutor start with 12 perception, 9 willpower, 6 int, 6 memory, 6 charisma? Is it as bad as I think or not really? It's a 7.1 mil skillpoint character, but would it be advantageous to restart it because the stats are as bad as I think they are?

[Tirinal]

There's no such thing as a bad stat spread unless your charisma is over 7. Anything else is preference.

[Alexzandra]

How screwed am I by having my Minmatar Brutor start with 12 perception, 9 willpower, 6 int, 6 memory, 6 charisma? Is it as bad as I think or not really? It's a 7.1 mil skillpoint character, but would it be advantageous to restart it because the stats are as bad as I think they are?

At 7.1 sp in, I wouldn't worry about it. (Especially if you've already done learning skills and you have some sets of implants.)

[Kirun]

Originally Posted by Alexzandra

At 7.1 sp in, I wouldn't worry about it. (Especially if you've already done learning skills and you have some sets of implants.)

Yup, already finished up to 4 on advanced learning of everything except for charisma, which I haven't got past 4 of basic yet.

So I take it my character isn't as gimped as I thought then? That's very reassuring if true. I've been nervous as hell that I totally screwed up.

[Wildstone]

If you've done Learning skills your more than fine. Int and Mem are the only two your oh-so-slightly lacking on, and one of the biggest uses for those are the learning skills anyway. So you are through the worst already.

[Xequecal]

Mem is used for Drones, but if you're not going to go heavy into drones I can see why it's not that important. However, INT is really essential as it's the primary skill for Electronics, Engineering, and Navigation which you'll need a lot of SP in.

[Kirun]

Originally Posted by Xequecal

Mem is used for Drones, but if you're not going to go heavy into drones I can see why it's not that important. However, INT is really essential as it's the primary skill for Electronics, Engineering, and Navigation which you'll need a lot of SP in.

Right, which is what I was afraid of, but is it worth throwing away a 7.1mil SP character for another 2-3 INT and MEM?

[Gamblor]

Originally Posted by Kirun

Right, which is what I was afraid of, but is it worth throwing away a 7.1mil SP character for another 2-3 INT and MEM?

You get 1 sp per minute per point of the two attributes for that skill. In order to end up better off having 3 more stats, that 7.1 million sp would take (7,1000,000 / 3) minutes to make it worth abandoning your old char, which is 4.5 years.

[Kirun]

Originally Posted by Gamblor

You get 1 sp per minute per point of the two attributes for that skill. In order to end up better off having 3 more stats, that 7.1 million sp would take (7,1000,000 / 3) minutes to make it worth abandoning your old char, which is 4.5 years.

Ok, and that would only be in skills that are heavily reliant on INT and/or MEM, correct? On Spaceship Command and Gunnery skills, I'm going to have a much faster learning time with my high PER and WIL. Seems to me like I'm fine. Maybe 5+ years or whatever down the road I might catch up, but I'd bet most people could say the same thing for any character.

[Xequecal]

Originally Posted by Kirun

Ok, and that would only be in skills that are heavily reliant on INT and/or MEM, correct? On Spaceship Command and Gunnery skills, I'm going to have a much faster learning time with my high PER and WIL. Seems to me like I'm fine. Maybe 5+ years or whatever down the road I might catch up, but I'd bet most people could say the same thing for any character.

You're right, but the point is that any skill point in Charisma is a wasted skill point. The reason Caldari/Achura was so good is because they started out with only 3 CHA, and the points that would have gone into CHA went into OTHER skills. Every other race combo started out with at least 5 CHA and trains slightly slower. Did you put points in Charisma at all when you started? The 6 CHA isn't that high, you might just have not picked an optimal character path when you made the character.

Now, if you have 7 million SP it's definetly not worth restarting unless you've got millions in the Science and Social trees or something, I was just pointing out that INT was not unnecessary like someone said.