FoH guide to EVE Online - Page 181

Kais[] · 10-18-2007, 01:26 AM

two things to consider, the main one if you are doing research/production. With the right skills you can set a research/manufacture job at a pos in system from the safety of the station (your corp must also have an office in that station, and you need corp roles to install the jobs). no hauling bpos and minerals back and forth, not to mention if the pos gets blown up your bpos are safely in station (instead of blowing up with the pos). For research you need the skill scientific networking, offhand i forget the manufacturing skill to do so. as for the safety of high-sec, it doesn't protect your one-man production corp from a wardeck if someone wants that moon for themselves.

as for mining/refining, pos module refineries refine ore at the efficiency the module is rated at, and is unaffected by skills. base module is only a 35% refine, so you will likely want to do that in a station (preferably one which your corp has 8.0+ standing with for perfect refines without taxes).

I'd go with the station system.

Ashes Emberblade · 10-18-2007, 01:35 PM

You definitely want to plop it in the station system. Keep everything in an npc station with buildslots so that you can start research / production from the same place.

Greyskye · 10-18-2007, 11:29 PM

Message received! Thanks you two

Itzena · 10-19-2007, 01:02 PM

EVE server fall down, go boom.

Greyskye · 10-20-2007, 04:25 AM

Big badha boom!

Greyskye · 11-25-2007, 09:07 PM

Eh, ME datacores are getting too popular. Next?

Itzena · 11-26-2007, 04:58 AM

Moon mining.

gavinrad · 11-26-2007, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyskye

Eh, ME datacores are getting too popular. Next?

There goes my last reason to resub.

Jayblah · 12-07-2007, 02:47 PM

Alright gentlemen, I've decided to give EVE's free trial a whirl. I made myself a Caldari Achura male, and adhered to the recommendations of this guide: Recommended Base Stat Builds - GoonFleet

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Recommended Build (PvP-focused)

Pick Achura for your bloodline.

Assign the additional 5 points to: +3 PER, +2 INT
For Heritage, choose Monk(+2Per, +2 WILL)
For Career, choose Military
For Specialization, choose Soldier

Why We Recommend It

This will give you starting base stats of Charisma 3, Intelligence 10, Memory 6, Perception 12, Willpower 8, plus 4 Perception from your starting Spatial Awareness IV skill, and the following skills (image of skills attached at end of post):

According to the guide, Caldari Achura males have the most ideal distribution of attributes. I know alot of people in this thread decry their appearance, but I find mine to look far better than the Gallente Jin-Mei male I made (also created according to the guide's suggestions).

As someone who doesn't really know what he wants to do in the game, nor how to do it, is Caldari going to be a suitable match for me? I imagine I'll be heading towards PvP as that seems to be the heart of EVE but alot of people in this thread claim Caldari ships are terrible in PvP. Should I be steering towards another race's ships? Will that entail a world of hurt in training? Based on my starting stats and my skill breakdown below, would someone be so kind as to hold my hand and guide me? Any advice is welcome.

The starting skills:

Fog · 12-07-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayblah

As someone who doesn't really know what he wants to do in the game, nor how to do it, is Caldari going to be a suitable match for me?

Pretty much, although the low charisma will make it irritating if you want to train skills for trading, corporation management, fleet buffs, or NPC mission running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayblah

I imagine I'll be heading towards PvP as that seems to be the heart of EVE but alot of people in this thread claim Caldari ships are terrible in PvP.

No, not really. All the races have lots of good PvP ships. The lousy ones generally get rebalanced once people start griping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayblah

Should I be steering towards another race's ships?

After playing for a little bit you will probably get a feel for which race(s) suit you best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayblah

Will that entail a world of hurt in training?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayblah

Based on my starting stats and my skill breakdown below, would someone be so kind as to hold my hand and guide me? Any advice is welcome.

Your starting skills are pretty well-rounded. If you want to run missions, you'll have an easy time of it right away. It's just a few weeks worth of skills at the most though so starting skills are no big deal.

If you wanted to try another race's frigates right away, your gunnery skills would suit Gallente ships well too.

ruffstyle · 12-07-2007, 03:17 PM

It also depends on what kind of PVP you want to take part in. Caldari ships are actually very good at small gang PVP, especially with the new ECM buff.

For fleet PVP you should train guns and get in a rokh when you can afford to lose one, otherwise cross train a frig tackler on your way towards interceptors / dictors.

Lorrac · 12-08-2007, 09:52 AM

word of warning! you CAN'T make any achura male that doesn't look ugly - go for achura females.

Jayblah · 12-08-2007, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorrac

word of warning! you CAN'T make any achura male that doesn't look ugly - go for achura females.

Nonsense! My Achura male looks rather badass. Where is the hate for male Gallente Jin Mei? Now that is truly a fugbog combination.

Lorrac · 12-08-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayblah

Nonsense! My Achura male looks rather badass. Where is the hate for male Gallente Jin Mei? Now that is truly a fugbog combination.

I dare you to post it here!

Draegan · 12-10-2007, 06:53 AM

I actually started playing the game again. I have all the good spots to learn about the game. So I don't need help with that, but, what are your guys favorite sites to keep up with the game? Community sites etc.

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11-25-2007, 09:07 PM	#2706 (permalink)
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11-26-2007, 04:58 AM	#2707 (permalink)
Itzena SOS-dan #76564674 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Near a big fucking castle, the UK Posts: 5,613 -11 Internets	Moon mining. __________________

10-18-2007, 01:26 AM	#2701 (permalink)
Kais[] Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 301 +0 Internets	two things to consider, the main one if you are doing research/production. With the right skills you can set a research/manufacture job at a pos in system from the safety of the station (your corp must also have an office in that station, and you need corp roles to install the jobs). no hauling bpos and minerals back and forth, not to mention if the pos gets blown up your bpos are safely in station (instead of blowing up with the pos). For research you need the skill scientific networking, offhand i forget the manufacturing skill to do so. as for the safety of high-sec, it doesn't protect your one-man production corp from a wardeck if someone wants that moon for themselves. as for mining/refining, pos module refineries refine ore at the efficiency the module is rated at, and is unaffected by skills. base module is only a 35% refine, so you will likely want to do that in a station (preferably one which your corp has 8.0+ standing with for perfect refines without taxes). I'd go with the station system.

10-18-2007, 01:35 PM	#2702 (permalink)
Ashes Emberblade Better than You Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NOLA Posts: 1,313 -2 Internets	You definitely want to plop it in the station system. Keep everything in an npc station with buildslots so that you can start research / production from the same place.

12-07-2007, 03:17 PM	#2711 (permalink)
ruffstyle Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 21 +0 Internets	It also depends on what kind of PVP you want to take part in. Caldari ships are actually very good at small gang PVP, especially with the new ECM buff. For fleet PVP you should train guns and get in a rokh when you can afford to lose one, otherwise cross train a frig tackler on your way towards interceptors / dictors.

12-08-2007, 09:52 AM	#2712 (permalink)
Lorrac Invaders Spaced Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the land of 16% VAT Posts: 1,354 +0 Internets	word of warning! you CAN'T make any achura male that doesn't look ugly - go for achura females.

12-10-2007, 06:53 AM	#2715 (permalink)
Draegan . Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,116 -13 Internets	I actually started playing the game again. I have all the good spots to learn about the game. So I don't need help with that, but, what are your guys favorite sites to keep up with the game? Community sites etc.

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