FoH guide to EVE Online - Page 173

Kirby · 07-15-2007, 02:11 AM

Most people do not fit MWDs while ratting. It takes 25% off max cap Most ratters like cap or rat in Ravens anyway. a MWD BS you can actually keep up with because of how slow they accelerate and the cap it burns. Thats the problem with the arazu anyway, it can't kill people at gates or people with MWDs not matter the setup. Thats why the Rapier is its perfect partner. Also i don't see how 51km changes anything at all i orbit at 55km.

I have killed plenty of ships in my arazu both solo and group and have held down faction ships for backup.

Sidhe · 07-15-2007, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

Most people do not fit MWDs while ratting. It takes 25% off max cap Most ratters like cap or rat in Ravens anyway. a MWD BS you can actually keep up with because of how slow they accelerate and the cap it burns. Thats the problem with the arazu anyway, it can't kill people at gates or people with MWDs not matter the setup. Thats why the Rapier is its perfect partner. Also i don't see how 51km changes anything at all i orbit at 55km.

I have killed plenty of ships in my arazu both solo and group and have held down faction ships for backup.

Okay...So if they have ewar drone interfacing 4 they sic drones at 56km? I'm not saying your setup is bad or that it doesn't work, just that it's not so invulnerable as you seem to make it sound. I know I can send drones at 56km if I don't fit a drone link augmentator, which in my Dominix I often did before I had the ewar drone interfacing skill. (Sansha rats orbit at max 51km and I'm lazy)

Fog · 07-15-2007, 06:07 AM

Yeah, most everyone has a 54k control range if they have T2 drones.

Vorph · 07-15-2007, 09:32 AM

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It can eventually break any ships tank since it has 213dps or around there with drone int V.

Hm, definitely not 'any' ship. 213dps barely scratches the shield on my Myrm, regardless of damage type. Same goes for someone in a Drake, Nighthawk, or Vulture I would assume. I'd also think that you're vulnerable to having your drones popped. It might take a long time to target one, but then they sic all five of theirs on it and you'd have a hard time calling it back before it gets eaten.

I don't doubt it's a good setup though, especially if you have reinforcements to call in.

Kais[] · 07-15-2007, 10:14 AM

I'm curious how people fit Megathrons. Aside from the tracking enhancer/mag stab sniping fit and the in your face blasterthrons, does anyone fit to engage at around 50-80k anymore and still have some tank? I see less extreme range sniping these days than sub 100k fighting. I'd like recommendations on fittings with T1 guns and T2 everything else as that's pretty much what i have. WU5/AWU4 elec5/eng5 of course. If there is a better ship for this type of goal i'm all ears.

Kirby · 07-15-2007, 11:35 AM

ya, you know i completely forgot about the Range bonus from the electronic warfare drone skill that being said i am 76 kills no losses so far in my arazu so i am guessing no one really trains it.

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Fog · 07-15-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

ya, you know i completely forgot about the Range bonus from the electronic warfare drone skill that being said i am 76 kills no losses so far in my arazu so i am guessing no one really trains it.

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Well I would presume that you get damps on them before they have a chance to deploy drones on you? It seems like a moot point. I can't believe that someone would just forget to train a support skill like that though.

Vorph · 07-15-2007, 01:50 PM

I have it trained to 3 and I'm only at about 4M SP currently. I can't believe anyone who uses drones is missing that skill. Not just for the range either, ECM drones own.

I agree with Fog, I think it's much more likely they can't target you and are instead trying to pop your drones with theirs. That's what I'd do anyway, just try to stall you until I could get backup since my tank would hold forever. I can see people with active tanks that require something in nos range to sustain having a problem though.

madmaan · 07-15-2007, 06:31 PM

You know, getting into a decent 0.0 corp is harder than what I am reading in earlier parts of this thread. Even when I check recruitment threads that appear to be pretty open I read the fine print and see "5m sp required" or some other larger number.

I do understand that 5m sp isn't a huge number. I do understand that it blows sitting here in empire. I basically have 3 options.

1: I can go on suicide missions to 0.0 and get blown up over and over.
2: I sit and pay for my account till i have the sp to get my feet wet in a corp
3: go play wow!

I know its a rant but I like eve and was wanting to join a corp this afternoon

Xequecal · 07-15-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by madmaan

You know, getting into a decent 0.0 corp is harder than what I am reading in earlier parts of this thread. Even when I check recruitment threads that appear to be pretty open I read the fine print and see "5m sp required" or some other larger number.

I do understand that 5m sp isn't a huge number. I do understand that it blows sitting here in empire. I basically have 3 options.

1: I can go on suicide missions to 0.0 and get blown up over and over.
2: I sit and pay for my account till i have the sp to get my feet wet in a corp
3: go play wow!

I know its a rant but I like eve and was wanting to join a corp this afternoon

I have similar issues, and I have 13m SP right now. Oh, I've found corps. The ones I've been in so far have been gigantic drama magnets that are in the process of rapidly self-destructing when I get in. Every day I get a new evemail about how XXXXX leader is leaving or how someone's stolen all the BPOs AGAIN and run off with them.

Saban · 07-15-2007, 08:04 PM

im in empire for another month or two till i can fit a vagabond and go solopwnmobile.

Khorum · 07-15-2007, 08:34 PM

Are you new guys that are having probs getting in a good corp just avoiding EVE University out of principle?

Sunder · 07-15-2007, 09:02 PM

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EVE University

Que es esto?

WillzZz · 07-15-2007, 10:24 PM

Eve University is a corp that specializes in recruiting new players and introducing them to some of the concepts that are a little difficult to get the hang of. Things like learning how to fly in fleets and the different roles and setups for 0.0. I never joined myself, but it sounds like a pretty good deal.

I suppose I'd be happy to sponsor a couple of people for CoW, as well. It's not for everybody, but I'm having quite a lot of fun doing the remote repping thing.

Greyskye · 07-16-2007, 02:30 AM

I'm one of those folks that formed my own corp. Having said that, I have alot of respect for EVE University. I'd be happy to join them but the sense I got awhile back was folks like me with alot of sp's weren't as welcome as newer players. IE 10m sp empire weenies....lol.

07-15-2007, 02:11 AM	#2581 (permalink)
Kirby Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 224 -1 Internets	Most people do not fit MWDs while ratting. It takes 25% off max cap Most ratters like cap or rat in Ravens anyway. a MWD BS you can actually keep up with because of how slow they accelerate and the cap it burns. Thats the problem with the arazu anyway, it can't kill people at gates or people with MWDs not matter the setup. Thats why the Rapier is its perfect partner. Also i don't see how 51km changes anything at all i orbit at 55km. I have killed plenty of ships in my arazu both solo and group and have held down faction ships for backup. Last edited by Kirby : 07-15-2007 at 02:15 AM.

07-15-2007, 01:50 PM	#2588 (permalink)
Vorph -666 Internets Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 5,069	I have it trained to 3 and I'm only at about 4M SP currently. I can't believe anyone who uses drones is missing that skill. Not just for the range either, ECM drones own. I agree with Fog, I think it's much more likely they can't target you and are instead trying to pop your drones with theirs. That's what I'd do anyway, just try to stall you until I could get backup since my tank would hold forever. I can see people with active tanks that require something in nos range to sustain having a problem though. __________________ Last edited by Vorph : 07-15-2007 at 01:53 PM.

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Saban Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,656 +0 Internets	im in empire for another month or two till i can fit a vagabond and go solopwnmobile. __________________ Saban Keelhaul

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07-15-2007, 06:07 AM	#2583 (permalink)
Fog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,567 +1 Internets	Yeah, most everyone has a 54k control range if they have T2 drones.

07-15-2007, 10:14 AM	#2585 (permalink)
Kais[] Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 315 -3 Internets	I'm curious how people fit Megathrons. Aside from the tracking enhancer/mag stab sniping fit and the in your face blasterthrons, does anyone fit to engage at around 50-80k anymore and still have some tank? I see less extreme range sniping these days than sub 100k fighting. I'd like recommendations on fittings with T1 guns and T2 everything else as that's pretty much what i have. WU5/AWU4 elec5/eng5 of course. If there is a better ship for this type of goal i'm all ears.

07-15-2007, 11:35 AM	#2586 (permalink)
Kirby Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 224 -1 Internets	ya, you know i completely forgot about the Range bonus from the electronic warfare drone skill that being said i am 76 kills no losses so far in my arazu so i am guessing no one really trains it. Middle School Comedy Club Killboard Killboard - Pilot details - Alchemos

07-15-2007, 06:31 PM	#2589 (permalink)
madmaan High Quantity of Win Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 99 +0 Internets	You know, getting into a decent 0.0 corp is harder than what I am reading in earlier parts of this thread. Even when I check recruitment threads that appear to be pretty open I read the fine print and see "5m sp required" or some other larger number. I do understand that 5m sp isn't a huge number. I do understand that it blows sitting here in empire. I basically have 3 options. 1: I can go on suicide missions to 0.0 and get blown up over and over. 2: I sit and pay for my account till i have the sp to get my feet wet in a corp 3: go play wow! I know its a rant but I like eve and was wanting to join a corp this afternoon

07-15-2007, 08:34 PM	#2592 (permalink)
Khorum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,992 -16 Internets	Are you new guys that are having probs getting in a good corp just avoiding EVE University out of principle?

07-15-2007, 10:24 PM	#2594 (permalink)
WillzZz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 853 -2 Internets	Eve University is a corp that specializes in recruiting new players and introducing them to some of the concepts that are a little difficult to get the hang of. Things like learning how to fly in fleets and the different roles and setups for 0.0. I never joined myself, but it sounds like a pretty good deal. I suppose I'd be happy to sponsor a couple of people for CoW, as well. It's not for everybody, but I'm having quite a lot of fun doing the remote repping thing.

07-16-2007, 02:30 AM	#2595 (permalink)
Greyskye Legends of Kesmai refugee Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 331 -1 Internets	I'm one of those folks that formed my own corp. Having said that, I have alot of respect for EVE University. I'd be happy to join them but the sense I got awhile back was folks like me with alot of sp's weren't as welcome as newer players. IE 10m sp empire weenies....lol.