FoH guide to EVE Online

[Xequecal]

Originally Posted by Fog

Well, you don't think the tank is worthless, but what will it tank? It's only got 1 hardener (and a DC, ok) and the passive recharge can't be more than maybe 20 or 30 shields per second, right? It sure can't tank an enemy BS or BC for more than a minute or two.

Nos may not be damage, but when you nos your opponent, it kills their tank as well. One nos isn't that much less effective than one blaster when you are comparing how quickly you can kill another large ship. Plus, nos gives you control.

If I had to make a blaster Domi my instinct would be to lay off the shield extenders and fit RSDs instead. Maybe that way you can sucker some poor guy into coming into your web range at least, and you don't have to waste like 5 slots and 3 rigs fooling yourself into thinking you have a tank.

It's not supposed to permanently tank anything, it's just so you live longer than your opponent does. I got inspired for it off this setup that was posted on scrapheap challenge

6x Neutron Blaster Cannon II

2x Invuln Field II
XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amp II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster

3x Magstab
Dark Blood PDU
PDU II
Internal Force Field Array
Co-Processor II

2x Ancillary Current Router
Core Defense Operational Solidifier

Everyone said that fit was great, insane DPS, but I noticed it gives up MWD and tackling to fit the active tank. But you need AWU V and one other shield skill at V to get it to fit at all, and Ancillary Current Routers are hella expensive. I thought I could come up with a way to put a MWD and scram on it and still get the same effect.

[Fog]

Originally Posted by Xequecal

It's not supposed to permanently tank anything, it's just so you live longer than your opponent does. I got inspired for it off this setup that was posted on scrapheap challenge

6x Neutron Blaster Cannon II

2x Invuln Field II
XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amp II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster

3x Magstab
Dark Blood PDU
PDU II
Internal Force Field Array
Co-Processor II

2x Ancillary Current Router
Core Defense Operational Solidifier

Everyone said that fit was great, insane DPS, but I noticed it gives up MWD and tackling to fit the active tank. But you need AWU V and one other shield skill at V to get it to fit at all, and Ancillary Current Routers are hella expensive. I thought I could come up with a way to put a MWD and scram on it and still get the same effect.

Well, that fit has a *lot* more of a tank, thanks to the heavy cap booster and double hardeners + amp. I would never even consider flying such a close-range ship with no way to dictate range, but if you're in a gang that is good at providing useful warp-ins you will at least blow up whatever you end up next to.

Yours, though, I would guess that most other close-range battleships would kill you in a 1v1 due to your near-nonexistent tank. I'm thinkng about my mission Raven because that's the only BS I have experience with and I think I could tank 1400 DPS long enough to blow up that Dominix fit with just cruise missles, so probably any combat-oriented BS can do it if a Raven could do it.

(With the active tank fit, why not drop the blasters to ions to save you the fitting grief? Not like you're lacking in DPS.)

[Kazgrim]

Your Build:

6x Neutron Blaster Cannon II

MWD II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II / Warp Disruptor II*
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster

3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Power Diagnostic System II
Reactor Control Unit II

3x Core Defence Field Extender I

Original:

6x Neutron Blaster Cannon II

2x Invuln Field II
XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amp II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster

3x Magstab
Dark Blood PDU
PDU II
Internal Force Field Array
Co-Processor II

2x Ancillary Current Router
Core Defense Operational Solidifier

additional comments:

It's not supposed to permanently tank anything, it's just so you live longer than your opponent does. I got inspired for it off this setup that was posted on scrapheap challenge...
Everyone said that fit was great, insane DPS, but I noticed it gives up MWD and tackling to fit the active tank. But you need AWU V and one other shield skill at V to get it to fit at all, and Ancillary Current Routers are hella expensive. I thought I could come up with a way to put a MWD and scram on it and still get the same effect.

Please read what you just wrote again. Then look up and compare the two builds. that's not some e-thug smacktalk diss or whatever, I want you think about what you just said (You want to switch mods a,b,c, for x,y,z and still have a,b,c + x,y,z). Then think about your fit and why it's silly.

If you still don't see why I'll phrase it another way: By removing the mods both necessary and critical to running a shield tank, you've eliminated the ability to.... run a shield tank. While its somewhat unorthodox, no one was critizing your domi build because you were trying to run a shield tank, a good build is a good build regardless of how off the wall it may appear at first.

You're build is bad but not because you were trying to run a shield tank. Quite the opposite actually. You're trying to do something alright, what it is we're not sure, but you're wasting 6-7 module slots and all your rigs to achieve whatever it is.

[WillzZz]

If you want to fly that type of ship, fly a rokh. It runs that role to perfection.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Naj

Try this Megathron:

7x Electron Blaster II
Heavy (named) nos

MWD
Web + Point
Cap Booster w/800s

LAR II
Named DC
Magstab II
1600 RT Plate
2x EANM
Explosive Hardener

Much better tank, tracking bonus which is extremely vital for close range battleships etc

I'd say swap the plate for a DC (II, preferably) but that's just because plates won't do much for your handling, plus they eat grid.
Edit: D'oh - you've got one in there already. Hmm...maybe a dual-repper setup then, or another magstab?

And I don't think I've ever seen a blasterohk - the range bonus on that ship pretty much spells out "You will snipe" IMO.

[KianwanCT]

Originally Posted by Itzena

I'd say swap the plate for a DC (II, preferably) but that's just because plates won't do much for your handling, plus they eat grid.
Edit: D'oh - you've got one in there already. Hmm...maybe a dual-repper setup then, or another magstab?

And I don't think I've ever seen a blasterohk - the range bonus on that ship pretty much spells out "You will snipe" IMO.

Hence why a Blasterrokh might work the suprise and all :P

[Bottle]

Originally Posted by KianwanCT

Hence why a Blasterrokh might work the suprise and all :P

Or it might insure people laugh at you.

[Kirby]

Blaster rokh doesn't have the tracking and would get raped by any well flown HAC.

[Kirby]

if you wanna be a fag that can tank/kill any solo or duo Gate camping pirate in 0.0 get a domi and fit with

3 heavy dims
3 medium neuts

electrochem cap booster
webber
disrupter
2 Hypnos ECM or Boosters or more webs basically whatever you want

large armor rep t2
eanm t2
DCU t2
1600 rolled tungsten t2
Armor Explosive hardener t2
Armor Kinetic Hardener T2
Armor Thermic Hardener T2

5 ogre ii
5 berserker II
5 Vespa EC-600
assorted mediums/smalls

3x Trimark Rigs


has like 20k armor with great resists and saps cap like mad

Downsides is it is slow and a BS so dont expect to go around without a gang soloing unless its in Low sec or youll just get run down. Also DPS with Drone interfacing V and shit is only like 430.

It can tank any ship 1v1 though.

[Greyskye]

Since everyone seems to be posting their good fittings, help me outfit a Vexor to sneak into 0.0 and snag some rats while having good survivability to gtfo if a gang comes looking. I'm a drone nut, so don't forget e-war drone suggestions.

And I'm not against setups that can lure in a bold tackler and light his arse up.

[Ashes Emberblade]

Here is the setup I used to rat angel BSs in 0.0. Please note that it's hard, slow, and you will get blown up a lot.

High:

3x Medium Diminishing Power System Drain
2x Small Blasters

Medium:

10MN AB I
Point
Web

Low:

Medium Armor Repper II
EANM I
2x Armor Explosive Hardener I

Drones:

2x Berserker I
2x Valkyrie I
1x Warrior I

This setup will allow you to rat angels in 0.0 with about 4 million ish skill points. It's a huge pain though, trust me. Get a battlecruiser or BS asap.

If you need to take out a tackling frig - cruiser this setup, with a few variations, should do the trick. I wouldn't fly it into fleet pvp though.

[Kirby]

My favorite ratting ship is ishtar its good dps and very fast. if you wanna rat and be able to PVP other cruiser class ships and under train for one right away. I would not try to 0.0 rat for cash in anything but a BC and up.

On the other hand when my security status was -4 or some and i was relatively new to the game and poor i fit an ishkur that could solo any 0.0 BS spawn but it took ages so it was only useful for sec hits. Anyway the set up was

3x Light Neutron Blasters t2
1x small dimin

1x 10mn afterburner
2x Cap recharger T2

2x mag stab T2
1x MAPC

with 2 hammerhead T2 and 3 Hobgoblin T2

Not sure on the 2 cap rechargers in mid, i may have had a warp scram/webber dunno though. If you want sec hits from the Big 0.0 Rats this setup is great you can orbit at 500 and beat them dead in about 4 minutes each. Just keep transversal up and you dont get hit. That being said Dont engage webber rats.

[Kirby]

Oh and Just because im really proud of this new setup i have made ill post it..

Arazu, the problem with this ship is it cannot engage ships without rats on them due to drones, With this setup i have solved that for every ship besides Ishtar.

3x 250mm Railguns T2 With Spike M and Uranium
1x Covert Ops cloaking Device

3x Phased Muon Sensor Damps
1x Domination Warp DIsrupter (Very important)
1x Cap Recharger t2
1x 10mn Afterburner

1x Energized Reactive Membrane T2
1x Medium Armor Repairer T2
2x Magnetic field Stabilizer T2

Drone Control Rig x1
Dampener Power rig or Range Rig x1

With this setup you can orbit at 51-59km (depending if recon V or not) and there drones cant do shit while your drones can go all the way to 65Km. It can eventually break any ships tank since it has 213dps or around there with drone int V.

The arazu is easily one of my favorite ships But the fact that it couldn't solo dominix's ever made me buy the domination warp disrupter and do this setup.


If you wanna do solo PVP or Small gang PVP and dont wanna get blobbed Train for recons ASAP while they take forever to kill ships all but the pilgrim can warp out before anything gets messy. Plus you can do cool things like take 2 friends in recons deep into a hostile 0.0 Hub and cloak at safespots and just talk in local and go afk or whatever for the whole day occasionally coming out of cloak to gank a ratter or hauler, and just laugh as they bring in carriers and set up fleets on gates to try to ambush you.

[Xequecal]

With only an afterburner you're not going to be able to keep anything at that range if it doesn't want to stay there. I fit MWD even while ratting 0.0 to get away from stuff, I figured most people did as well. They can MWD away or MWD right at you, granted with damps getting away will be easy, but I don't see you actually killing anything.

[Sidhe]

In response to that Arazu setup, don't forget Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing. Just 2 levels of it and someone will have a 51km drone control range. Yes, this applies to all drones, not just electronic warfare drones.