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[Itzena]

Sovereignty skill is available on the market.

And the Goons rejoiced.

[Chinaman889]

What does that skill do exactly?

[Itzena]

It's the next step up past the 'Empire control' corp size skill. IIRC, sovereignty's +1000 members/skill level

[Chinaman889]

[Lorrac]

Any goon can repost their sad little bee flash animation ? the one originally posted on this thread:

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[Xequecal]

What are your opinions on the new patch changes? From what I read on the forums Gallente/Minmatar got screwed while Caldari and Amarr got large boosts. Apparently passive tanking is the way to go in the new patch while active tanking sucks, which makes the Rokh and Abaddon really good while the Hyperion and Maelstrom suck.

[Kirun]

Would it be worth giving up a 6-7 million skillpoint character with messed up stats for a 850k character with stats done right in Kali?

[Gurgeh]

Abaddon seems a beast in close range fight, the Rokh will pretty much dominate the long range fight. Maelstorm is a tempest that trade 2 utility high slot and 70M for some extra hp (~a 1600mm plate), Hyperion is 12.5% more dps than the megathron for 70M to (you get extra hp but lose 1 slot because you need 3 sensor booster t2)
As far as pvp is concerned passive tanking >> active tanking, so basicaly the Hyperion and the Maelstorm both have a useless bonus for PvP, while the Rokh and the Abaddon get an extra 25% hp on their passive tank, which is nice (ie equivalent to one extra slot at least)

[Gurgeh]

Originally Posted by Kirun

Would it be worth giving up a 6-7 million skillpoint character with messed up stats for a 850k character with stats done right in Kali?

Will probably take 1 year to 18 months to catch up, just get a second account, anyway you need 2 accounts to get serious in eve.

[Wildstone]

From what I've heard, its pretty much impossible to have messed up your character stats. Unless you have like all your points in Charisma. Then your pretty much fucked. ;P

[Xequecal]

Originally Posted by Gurgeh

Abaddon seems a beast in close range fight, the Rokh will pretty much dominate the long range fight. Maelstorm is a tempest that trade 2 utility high slot and 70M for some extra hp (~a 1600mm plate), Hyperion is 12.5% more dps than the megathron for 70M to (you get extra hp but lose 1 slot because you need 3 sensor booster t2)
As far as pvp is concerned passive tanking >> active tanking, so basicaly the Hyperion and the Maelstorm both have a useless bonus for PvP, while the Rokh and the Abaddon get an extra 25% hp on their passive tank, which is nice (ie equivalent to one extra slot at least)

Just my n00b two cents, but the Rokh seems really screwy to me. Basically, for fleet combat, which is done at long ranges, you bring a Rokh or don't bother. +50% range is the win. (Ok, maybe +40%, it takes like two months to train Battleship V)

It's really screwy because it's a Caldari ship that doesn't use missiles at all for its primary function. Also, Gallente players can get into one MUCH easier than Caldari players can because the ship is based around gunnery. It takes a lot less time for Gallente players to train up to Caldari Battleship than it will take Caldari players, who have their most of their weapon skill points in missiles, to train up all the Gunnery skills to respectable levels.

EDIT: The ECM nerf also screwed the Dominix to hell, no more massing ECM while your drones kill the other guy.

[Saban]

Doesn't every tier of Caldari ship have a missile boat and turret...boat? variation?

[Tirinal]

Originally Posted by Saban

Doesn't every tier of Caldari ship have a missile boat and turret...boat? variation?

They usually have a missle boat and a hybrid, with the hybrid variant being pretty well shunned. Aside from splitting SP between weapon armaments types, you also typically split the ship bonus. It's pretty...meh. The only real turret boat Caldari have in the classic sense is the Cormorant, I think.

I'm actually well pleased with Kali1, though I don't fly battleships of any stripe so your mileage may vary. Exploration is fun. Rigs are pretty kinky.

I just really, really wish they'd hunker down of a week or two and completely overhaul the UI. It's pretty silly that there are still clickable functions in any MMO that can't be hotkeyed.

[Chinaman889]

Will probably take 1 year to 18 months to catch up, just get a second account, anyway you need 2 accounts to get serious in eve.

Not that long. I have about 5 million here myself, and I used the Goon wiki - my char was created in July 2006. So it'll probably take you about 6 months to get back to where you were roughly. Take into consideration that the 5 million SP I have - about 40% of it is still made up of all the learnings that I've finally completed.

[Wildstone]

New Dev Blog is out. Talks about the Player Creation Fixes.

Now the real question is, do I remake my character in Kali, or keep the current "placeholder" one and hope to God that seemingly "random" improved skills are what I want.

PS- The blog mentions that the skills improved are only ones you've already "learned". Does that mean if I go and quickly learn all the Learning Skills to rank 1, the 750k point "bump" will go into learning skills? Thus getting through some of those fast?

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